Who has Kelly Pavlik beat?

I'd like to see him fight Abraham as well. Or Kessler. The Hopkins fight may be tough for him but I see what he's trying to do. As to your question, why do you ask? He twice beat a Jermain Taylor who barely scraped by Bernard Hopkins. You know, the same Hopkins that Calzaghe barely scraped by? Actually...not the same. He was years older and worse. Dam! The truth is NEVER simple.... good post!:fing02:

I wish people didnt reply to this shit. It only makes it worse. I wonder whos alt it is tho?

He's a loud mouth bitch with no names to back him up, Hopkins is the first name he will fight. Edison Miranda (KOed by Abraham in 4) Jermain Taylor (Edged out close wins over Spinks and Ouma, lost to Hopkins twice) Gary Lockett (WHO?) Pavlik is calling out Calzaghe but he needs to worry about Abraham, not Calzaghe. Abraham has 7 X more title defenses than Pavlik and has beaten better fighters than him but he is keeping his mouth shut which is why I have great respect for him. This is the common case of a poor kid getting too much money too fast where he now gets to the point where he craves it. Go back to cleaning drive ways bitch. In order to be the Champ you have to beat the CHAMP. Damn you act like he didn't fight Taylor.

Taylor is well overated.

Its the Miranda fight and the 2 Taylor fights that are his biggest wins. I expect to him have more... A win against Bernard is gonna look good alongside the rest if he can pull it off..

who has Kelly Pavlik beat well they are Eric Benito Tzand Nelson Hernandez Frankie Sanchez Anthony Collier Lafayette Randolph Cedric Johnson Mathias Bedburdick Tommy Walker Grady Brewer Mario Lopez Rob Bleakley Robert Dasoyan Eric Olds Abel Hernandez Edson Madrid Eduardo Gutierrez Cesar Avila Rico Cason Anthony Ivory Roberto Baro Pedro Ortega Carlton Holland Ross Thompson Dorian Beaupierre Daniel Neal Vincent Harris Fulgencio Zuniga Bronco McKart Lenord Pierre Jose Luis Zertuche Edison Miranda Jermain Taylor twice Gary Lockett good to see if we don't know something we are not afraid ask

30 of 34 KO's NUFF SAID....even shitty fighters dont amount those numbers PERIOD!He's a loud mouth bitch with no names to back him up, Hopkins is the first name he will fight. Edison Miranda (KOed by Abraham in 4) Jermain Taylor (Edged out close wins over Spinks and Ouma, lost to Hopkins twice) Gary Lockett (WHO?) Pavlik is calling out Calzaghe but he needs to worry about Abraham, not Calzaghe. Abraham has 7 X more title defenses than Pavlik and has beaten better fighters than him but he is keeping his mouth shut which is why I have great respect for him. This is the common case of a poor kid getting too much money too fast where he now gets to the point where he craves it. Go back to cleaning drive ways bitch.

I can see that, but unless Miranda comes back to be successful against good competition again, there will always be the argument that he was never great to begin with. you do make a point. but i mean there is no one in the div but taylor who he beat and is moving up in weight and AA which didnt pav try to get a fight with?? i know they went after alot of possible fights and had to settle with hopkins bc its a good name and the only fight that was out there.

He's a loud mouth bitch with no names to back him up, Hopkins is the first name he will fight. Edison Miranda (KOed by Abraham in 4) Jermain Taylor (Edged out close wins over Spinks and Ouma, lost to Hopkins twice) Gary Lockett (WHO?) Pavlik is calling out Calzaghe but he needs to worry about Abraham, not Calzaghe. Abraham has 7 X more title defenses than Pavlik and has beaten better fighters than him but he is keeping his mouth shut which is why I have great respect for him. This is the common case of a poor kid getting too much money too fast where he now gets to the point where he craves it. Go back to cleaning drive ways bitch. 33 more guys than you will ever beat...

but shouldnt pavlik get credit for putting maranda in this funk. i mean he was hitting pavlik with bombs and pav was walking right through them and landing even harder bombs. i dont know maybe im wrong but i kinda hand pav atleast some of the credit of the way miranda has been fighting. I can see that, but unless Miranda comes back to be successful against good competition again, there will always be the argument that he was never great to begin with.

Sadly, oftentimes a fighter is viewed as only being as good as his last fight, and in Miranda's last fight, he looked TERRIBLE. If he can turn it around, Pavlik may get more credit for him, but right now the majority view on him is that he was overrated from the start. but shouldnt pavlik get credit for putting maranda in this funk. i mean he was hitting pavlik with bombs and pav was walking right through them and landing even harder bombs. i dont know maybe im wrong but i kinda hand pav atleast some of the credit of the way miranda has been fighting.

Pavlik is a good fighter. His biggest wins are his most recent ones (sans Lockett which meant nothin), but he's capable of takin any MW out there. I wanna see the AA fight, and I think Kelly can edge that one too.

i lol at the fact that zertuche and zuniga are in his top 5 wins....

He's a loud mouth bitch with no names to back him up, Hopkins is the first name he will fight. Edison Miranda (KOed by Abraham in 4) Jermain Taylor (Edged out close wins over Spinks and Ouma, lost to Hopkins twice) Gary Lockett (WHO?) Pavlik is calling out Calzaghe but he needs to worry about Abraham, not Calzaghe. Abraham has 7 X more title defenses than Pavlik and has beaten better fighters than him but he is keeping his mouth shut which is why I have great respect for him. This is the common case of a poor kid getting too much money too fast where he now gets to the point where he craves it. Go back to cleaning drive ways bitch. what fight is ur avatar from. i dont recall him getting that beat up... was it from the 2nd or first jermain fight?!? its funny that when jc faced b-hop, everyone said, who has b-hop beat, he lost to jermain twice.... then when pavlik calls out calzaghe, its who has pavlik beat? oh jermain taylor? he lost to hopkins twice!

It honestly should. Before Pav dominated him via KO, the whole world was watching Miranda calling him the "hardest puncher" in the MW division. Pav took his best shots and closed the deal like he usually does. Saying, now that he has been beaten twice since, that he is irrelevant, is just not right. Give Kelly his dues as well as Miranda's. Sadly, oftentimes a fighter is viewed as only being as good as his last fight, and in Miranda's last fight, he looked TERRIBLE. If he can turn it around, Pavlik may get more credit for him, but right now the majority view on him is that he was overrated from the start.

Miranda's name doesn't really add much to Pavlik's strength-of-schedule anymore, if you know what I mean. It honestly should. Before Pav dominated him via KO, the whole world was watching Miranda calling him the "hardest puncher" in the MW division. Pav took his best shots and closed the deal like he usually does. Saying, now that he has been beaten twice since, that he is irrelevant, is just not right. Give Kelly his dues as well as Miranda's.

The strength of Calzaghe's resume does not rest solely on one fighter. That is the difference. translation: he hasn't fought anyone

Calzaghe is ten years older than Pavlik. And Pavlik has Edison Miranda. Miranda's name doesn't really add much to Pavlik's strength-of-schedule anymore, if you know what I mean.

I agree. It wasn't me knocking it. I was just pointing out that when you are young and with really just one big name, thats why you get questioned. Pavlik still has more to prove, but he's doing real good so far. Well thats fair.

I agree. It wasn't me knocking it. I was just pointing out that when you are young and with really just one big name, thats why you get questioned. Pavlik still has more to prove, but he's doing real good so far. Agreed. Kelly's got a lot of hype right now, and while so far his resume is short he's done everything he's supposed to do. But Pavlik is still young enough to avoid the same accusations being launched at Calzaghe, as long as he gets out there and fights the Abrahams, Kesslers, and Calzaghes (if he'll have him). This Hopkins fight will be interesting but is a throwaway IMO, in terms of his resume. Beating him doesn't mean as much as it did even three years ago, unless he can do it decisively, which is near impossible against Bernard.