Manny Pacquiao vs. Naseem Hamed
Aight i'll keep this simple......since Naseem never fought at 130 we'll say the fight takes place at 125.
Prime for prime who takes this fight and how???
This would be a helluva fight!!! and i really wish i coulda seen it.......at this time my minds racing with possibilities and i cant make up my mind on a winner.
:boxing:who ya got??:boxing:
Find me a knockdown where Hamed was EVER in trouble? The majority of the knockdowns he suffered was due to his balance.
Pacquiao isnt Barrera. Barrera's gameplan worked that night. I honestly think Hamed could KO Pacman.
that pretty much summarizes what I think
i'll tell you what tho, if it were 2003 manny, that would be one heckuva firefight...with that manny vs prime hamed, it becomes a matter of whoever lands the money punch...2008 manny would overwhelm him with angles and hooks IMO....people tend to neglect Hamed's lack of boxing fundamental and are just enamored with the power, which i dont blame them, he looked like a fukking god KOing manchester cab drivers...but he never had the footwork that would allow him to utilize the lateral movement a fighter needs to negate PAC...especially the 2008 version
that's why i voted hamed.
at 126 it'll be that manny.
manny didn't really improve his right 'til the loss to erik at 130.
now or then i admit Manny has improved but its a little infair to take Manny today and Hamed of then because Hamed was not at his peak then either because he never fought long enough to reach his full potential
hamed already peaked. he burnt out too soon because of his lifestyle outside the ring.
i compare hamed to a tyson as far as prime.
when he fought kelley he was already on the decline imo.
are we talkin about 2003 manny or the one now against hamed?
now or then i admit Manny has improved but its a little infair to take Manny today and Hamed of then because Hamed was not at his peak then either because he never fought long enough to reach his full potential
are we talkin about 2003 manny or the one now against hamed?
that's what i thought too when i read that.
he needs ask morales after the 2nd and 3rd fight if manny still doesn't use his right hook.
why Hamed is a good counter puncher and Pacquaio is not the most intelligent fighter IMO he tends to fire in straight lines and his hooks are virtually non existent he is all 1 ,2 Hamed would just step away from his left hand and clobber hit with the big right hook
accurate assessment about 2-3 years ago.
manny has developed a right hook since the 1st morales fight. ask juan ma.
which is essential if they ever fought because it would probably become his strategy when the bell rung...both man can crack, that's proven...the underlying factor would be the speed...not really sure if he can back up and set up those counters with that type of velocity and relentlessness coming at him...
however that is a very good and valid point
which is essential if they ever fought because it would probably become his strategy when the bell rung...both man can crack, that's proven...the underlying factor would be the speed...not really sure if he can back up and set up those counters with that type of velocity and relentlessness coming at him...
why Hamed is a good counter puncher and Pacquaio is not the most intelligent fighter IMO he tends to fire in straight lines and his hooks are virtually non existent he is all 1 ,2 Hamed would just step away from his left hand and clobber hit with the big right hook
if Pacquiao fought as aggresive as he does against most people against Hamed he would get Koed
big difference walking onto JMM shots than walking onto Hameds ask Kevin Kelly
Hamed is even more dangreous when he is backed up than he is coming foward he is one of those fighters who can Ko his man whilst on the retreat
hamed got knocked down easy by other southpaw fighters. hamed could probably get up from pac's punches, but he probably won't be able to box like jmm and probably gets stopped. pac's chin is solid and I think he can take hamed's power for as long as hamed can stand.
yea that true.....but we havent seen Pac in there with a fighter of Princes power.........i just dont know how much his chin would hold up.......especially when JMM kinda rocked him
Manny Pacquiao vs. Naseem Hamed
Aight i'll keep this simple......since Naseem never fought at 130 we'll say the fight takes place at 125.
Prime for prime who takes this fight and how???
This would be a helluva fight!!! and i really wish i coulda seen it.......at this time my minds racing with possibilities and i cant make up my mind on a winner.
:boxing:who ya got??:boxing:
hamed got knocked down easy by other southpaw fighters. hamed could probably get up from pac's punches, but he probably won't be able to box like jmm and probably gets stopped. pac's chin is solid and I think he can take hamed's power for as long as hamed can stand.
morales won the first fight because of a pillow gloves and the bad cut. but look at what happened after their first fight total destruction!!!
it doesn't matter. gloves , cuts , socks , etc. he still won.
the difference between the 1st fight and the 2nd fight was A. a litte bit more wear and tear and age for morales and most importantly B. manny improved his skills.
morales won the first fight because of a pillow gloves and the bad cut. but look at what happened after their first fight total destruction!!!
I like Morales, but I would agree with this statement. The cut was a headbutt but ruled as a punch so Pacquiao had to fight every second like it was his last in that fight or he could have lost a TKO. He also had those pussy ass gloves and still managed to rock Morales late in that fight. Pacquiao is better than Morales at any point in their careers
Hamed fought one fighter that was Pac's caliber, when Naseem was 27 years old and still in his prime. We all know what happened there, he got owned. Only difference being Pac probably puts him away.
I doubt that. He's a plane hater who wants to tell the whole world that pac lost against a bum thailander, ergo, by transitivity pac is also a bum.
yeah well if he is he ain't that bright. if he was he'd bring up the erik loss. nobody would hold a loss at 19-20 yrs. old against anyone especially at championship level. that's just ignorant.
i wouldn't call medgoen a bum. the fucker has 60 wins almost.
maybe he was implying manny never avanged his loss? i don't know.I doubt that. He's a plane hater who wants to tell the whole world that pac lost against a bum thailander, ergo, by transitivity pac is also a bum.
He was implying that pac lost because pac sucks and he's stupid enough to ask a stupid question that even a retard like him can answer LOL.
maybe he was implying manny never avanged his loss? i don't know.