MArgarito was born lucky! (boxing related)

I made a thread similar to this awhile ago. I also highly agree Margarito's greatest strength is his chin. His defense is primarily his head. Cotto hits hard as **** and the shots he landed I wouldn't be surprised if they take their toll on him later in life or even in his next fight. You know those people that should go down rather than take as much as they do, in the Cotto fight, you wonder how the hell Margarito never went down. And yes, if it wasn't for his chin, Cotto would still be undefeated because Cotto was outboxing him and landing the cleaner-harder shots early on. Anyone else who took the shots Marg did in the 1st half of the fight wouldn't have made it to the 2nd half, that simple. I watched the fight with some friends and my brother on PPV. After we got over the shock of Cotto losing, the topic was Margarito's chin. That was all we talked about the next day. When you look at the first 4 or 5 rounds, you think that Margarito will eventually fold under so many crisp punches. How the hell did Margarito withstand a leaping left hook from hell that clean on the chin at the end of round 2?! That always sticks out in my mind as the biggest punch Cotto landed throughout the fight.

And his crazy stamina levels.He holds a compubox record for the most punches ever thrown in a 12 rounder 1675 thats to exact thats a 140 punches a round.Some could argue his conditioning is even crazier He can do that because he doesn't waste energy by moving around the ring, he doesn't dodge punches by moving side by side and all that come with avoiding to get hit. All that consume energy as well, he just comes forward and gets hit a lot. Mosley won because ha has waay more Punching power than Cotto plus he learned how to beat him by just holding on.

This is an old thread. Now we all know he is a cheating bastard but my question stands. Where Margarito would have been if he had 1/4 less of that crazy chin? who's a cheat?

This is an old thread. Now we all know he is a cheating bastard but my question stands. Where Margarito would have been if he had 1/4 less of that crazy chin? And his crazy stamina levels.He holds a compubox record for the most punches ever thrown in a 12 rounder 1675 thats to exact thats a 140 punches a round.Some could argue his conditioning is even crazier

This is an old thread. Now we all know he is a cheating bastard but my question stands. Where Margarito would have been if he had 1/4 less of that crazy chin?

yeah i feel that if it wasnt for that then margarito wouldnt too much. but hey each fighter has their own special gift. HE sure is a freak. What would be the name of the second fight between Williams and MArgarito, the 2 freaks in the WW div. The Goonies part 2?

yeah i feel that if it wasnt for that then margarito wouldnt too much. but hey each fighter has their own special gift.

I don't have to read it again, Cotto's face or the fact he had to be taken to the hospital after the fight were not because of AM's chin, it was because of his fists. Everybody knows AM is going to have problems with skilled & fast boxers at first, but by that token, he outworks them to even things out in the later rounds. With your theory then Mayweather was lucky to be born with all that speed, PWill was lucky to be born that tall, I guess every elite fighter is lucky to be born with their talents. Bottom line is every elite fighter gets to where they're at because they dedicate themselves in the gym and use their god given talents to the best of their abilities.

if you think he only won because of his chin you're fucking stupid and you don't know what you're talking about. IF you think he won because of his skills you are a complete Moron. Watch the fucking fight again

I never thought much of Margarito before and now I think a LOT less of Cotto for losing to him. I've seen guys make Margarito look amateurish (Clottey and Williams), yet Cotto somehow lost to this guy.

He wasn't born with talent like Mayweather, Mosley, DLH, Tyson, etc. But on the other hand, he does use the most of what he was given, Chin, gameness(will to win, no matter what the circumstances might be), add the fact that his conditioning is second to none, and that's what offsets his deficiencies. He's never going to outbox anybody, no matter how hard he works in the gym, so he works harder on what has made him what he's right now. He'll never be flashy, but he'll outwork you. Need to say this because all of those threads about Cotto and Margarito. I bet any boxer at 147 and below can throw a lot of punches a round and train hard to do so. What get boxers tired is mixing throwing punches(hard punches no just slapping) moving side to side and dodging punches at the same time really gets you tired. Most boxers do this that is why they train to throw precise punches and avoid to overthrow punches because they also have to move around the ring and doge punches for 10 to 12 rounds. Boxers learn how to throw a punch hard ( the correct way) and a guy like Cotto, Margo etc know how to throw punches hard as hell. You all talking all this stuff about quiting and crap but let's get real here. Margarito did not move at all he just took it all like a freak that he is and kept throwing punches missing a lot of them while Cotto was landing at will with hard punches and combinations. This thread is for everyone putting Cotto down. But the fact is if Margarito no matter what training he has if he wasn't for that freakish chin he has a lot of people including Mexicans wouldn't have an Idea who he is. So yes Margarito was born lucky. Even Williams could have KO him with all those punches he landed but that crazy chin was holding on but lost that fight and almost lost that fight with Joshua Clottey. Because of that he is a fun guy to watch but If I where him knowing the pressure that chin can handle I would have train more in the skills dept and avoid loosing to guys who can't hurt me at all and KO their asses by improving the boxing abilities. PS this is not a knock on Margarito I love watching the guy but you crazy fans need to get your facts straight :cool2: Read my post again. IT says that a lot boxers today can throw as many punches as Margarito and maybe more a round but the fact they need the energy to do the other stuff like normal boxers do like moving and dodging his opponent punches something margarito don't worry about and not even try to do just comes forward throw punches and take it all. ETC just read the post again

I've been a Margarito fan for years. That being said..I always liked Cotto as well. Both have great work ethic. Cotto is "heart attack serious" in his approach to training and the sport. Margarito has the determination to get the respect he always should have had. I have watched that fight five times now. Cotto hit Margarito with terrific shots..punches and combos that would clearly have taken many others out and goodnight. But they just didn't have any effect on Margarito..so much so that not only ddin't they hurt him, but most importantly they took nothing away from his stamina. Amazing to see; especially after the fact. Margarito, did not back up at all the entire fight..11 rounds of coming forward every round. However, if Cotto could have lasted the fight, he would have lost by two maybe three points. So in the end a respectable showing, even though Margarito took him down. If anyone gets the chance to see the fight again (HBO on demand), after the second knockdown, Cotto looks at his corner and shakes his head indicating " I'm through..no more"..then the towel comes in. I'd like to see a rematch..would be a lot of drama built into that..IMHO. Royce

He wasn't born with talent like Mayweather, Mosley, DLH, Tyson, etc. But on the other hand, he does use the most of what he was given, Chin, gameness(will to win, no matter what the circumstances might be), add the fact that his conditioning is second to none, and that's what offsets his deficiencies. He's never going to outbox anybody, no matter how hard he works in the gym, so he works harder on what has made him what he's right now. He'll never be flashy, but he'll outwork you.

I made a thread similar to this awhile ago. I also highly agree Margarito's greatest strength is his chin. His defense is primarily his head. Cotto hits hard as fuck and the shots he landed I wouldn't be surprised if they take their toll on him later in life or even in his next fight. You know those people that should go down rather than take as much as they do, in the Cotto fight, you wonder how the hell Margarito never went down. And yes, if it wasn't for his chin, Cotto would still be undefeated because Cotto was outboxing him and landing the cleaner-harder shots early on. Anyone else who took the shots Marg did in the 1st half of the fight wouldn't have made it to the 2nd half, that simple.

i would think most people would agree his chin is why he beat cotto, he took some hellacious shots. that's my point

i would think most people would agree his chin is why he beat cotto, he took some hellacious shots.

Most don't acused him of bein great as opposed to just plain tough as fuck.