Felix Tito Trinidad vs Marg

i did not say he was like margarito.... but because of the beating that cotto took.. suddenly margarito is destroying everyone even in fantasy fights that we would never found out the ending... soo thats why i say... same shit. .different oppinions... i guess we both are right Again, I will say I never said Marg would beat Tito hands down, I just tried to answer the people on here saying he would get KO'd by Tito in under 6....that's BS. Marg doesn't destroy Tito, Tito was big and strong but wasn't a great boxer, at least not as good as Cotto. I could see Tito winning and I could see Marg winning in a grueling fight. Vargas vs Tito wasn't THAT grueling, not the way marg comes at you.

if vargas could give tito a handful why cant margarito. If vargas sent tito flying on his ass why cant margarito. Margarito's chin is a million times tougher than vargases. How will tito handle the pressure and body work. here's all this talk about tito's movement and boxing skill beating margarito, but that's the same shit we all heard about cotto. trinidad isn't a great boxer like some people say and his foot work is horrible!!!!!!!! I like trinidad he is in my top 5 all time favorite! I think it would be a great fight with both guys having an equal chance to win. I really couldn't pick a winner. If i absolutely had to pick a winner if my life depended on it....ummm i'd either flip a coin or settle for trinidad Because Vargas's defense was way better than Margarito's. Vargas didn't come at Tito he boxed off the back foot and used his jab and used lateral movement. Vargas found out in the first 30seconds that you dont stand in front of Tito. Again it wasn't tough come at you guys that beat Tito. It was guys bigger than Tito +160lbs AND with EXCELLENT defenses. You guys also think because Margarito dwarfs and imposes his size on todays WW's that he can do it against Tito who himself was a damn big WW at 5'11. No man has stayed in front of Tito to trade and finished the fight standing. oh and for the record...pre-Margarito fight I also had Tito beating Cotto in one of the older threads.

i did not say he was like margarito.... but because of the beating that cotto took.. suddenly margarito is destroying everyone even in fantasy fights that we would never found out the ending... soo thats why i say... same shit. .different oppinions... i guess we both are right

That wasn't my point. Cotto fought 12 hard rounds with Mosley, even out boxing him late in the fight. The peoblem with fighting Marg is not your stamina, it's your ability to take a ton of punches. Because you will get hit my Marg one way or the other. Rememeber, Marg is NON STOP for 12 rounds. I just have never seen Tito is a grueling fight like that with the type of fighter that Margarito is. I repsect Tito's power and he had a ton of it but if he doesn't get to Marg early on, I think Marg wears him down like he does everyone else and could KO him late. and i say.. watch the vargas fight.. i wasnt comparing or anything.. u were asking for a grueling fight for 12 rounds.. and i give u one..

There's a big difference between Vargas and Margarito, Vargas left hook carried a lot more power than Margarito's shots. Campas also had an iron chin up to that moment and he was never the same, also more power than margarito. Sorry guys, but brawlers at 47 vs Tito had no chance.

Never said Cotto was Tito, you were the one making compairisons na na na na.... lets start from the begining.

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thats ok i was laughing @ u now.. that cotto is tito...?? see same shit different oppinions... Never said Cotto was Tito, you were the one making compairisons

if vargas could give tito a handful why cant margarito. If vargas sent tito flying on his ass why cant margarito. Margarito's chin is a million times tougher than vargases. How will tito handle the pressure and body work. here's all this talk about tito's movement and boxing skill beating margarito, but that's the same shit we all heard about cotto. trinidad isn't a great boxer like some people say and his foot work is horrible!!!!!!!! I like trinidad he is in my top 5 all time favorite! I think it would be a great fight with both guys having an equal chance to win. I really couldn't pick a winner. If i absolutely had to pick a winner if my life depended on it....ummm i'd either flip a coin or settle for trinidad Thank you....................

Come on, bro. I love Margarito as much as the next man but really, I don't see how a prime Tony beats a prime Tito. Seriously. Trinidad at 147 was an absolute monster. 15 title defenses; a reign he started strong and finished strong. To suggest Miguel Cotto hits anywhere near as hard as Felix Trinidad is absolutely ridiculous. They are leagues apart. Cotto is a solid power puncher at 147, Trinidad was one of the heaviest hitters of all time at welter. And you wanna talk about a fighter getting stronger? Trinidad was the original Margarito, except he was much more refined and he hit a helluva lot harder. Margarito would find himself in deep sh*t in the sixth round when he realized his opponent was matching him shot for shot and showing no signs of slowing. And hit like a f*cking mule to the head and body. With sharp speed just like he saw against Cotto. Hell, Daniel Santos was still alive on the cards and having an excellent ninth simply because he was lasting with Margarito (although the end was clearly near). Tito was ten times the fighter Santos was. And he was a little too sharp for a prime Margarito. This one ends like the Campas bout, with Margarito not going down but getting his head rocked back repeatedly as he is no longer able to fully defend himself. OK stop with the Daniel Santos fights because Marg was at 154 and was amuch different fighter than he is now. Second, Tito was not the original Marg...lol. He did not have a rock solid chin and did NOT have the speed Cotto has. I believe Cotto was a much better boxer than Tito even in his prime. Tito was a great champ but relied on his power too much and when he got in the ring with great boxers it showed. Then again, Tito didn't bother fighting the level of competition that DLH did so we can't even make the comapirisons. Trinidad TKO12. This is a faulty premise as Vargas had showed nothing but a rock solid chin and excellent stamina up until meeting Tito. Even severely out of shape (and it showed) against a young Winky, he pulled it out on the cards by throwing over 100 punches in the last three rounds of the fight. And he closed strong versus a prime Marquez and Quartey. And took solid shots. Anyone who followed Vargas knows his chin - and possibly shelf life - were ruined by the beating he took at the hands of Tito. And while you mention he lasted until the twelfth, you fail to mention he was dropped five times and beaten within inches of his life. A terrible comparison to make. Vargas a rock solid chin? When did this happen? All I keep hearing is how he has no chin. He lasted 12 rounds with Tito, dropping him in the middle of the fight and holding his own. It was a close fight until the last round where Tito caught up to him. Let's not forget that.

Tito Trinidad

if vargas could give tito a handful why cant margarito. If vargas sent tito flying on his ass why cant margarito. Margarito's chin is a million times tougher than vargases. How will tito handle the pressure and body work. here's all this talk about tito's movement and boxing skill beating margarito, but that's the same shit we all heard about cotto. trinidad isn't a great boxer like some people say and his foot work is horrible!!!!!!!! I like trinidad he is in my top 5 all time favorite! I think it would be a great fight with both guys having an equal chance to win. I really couldn't pick a winner. If i absolutely had to pick a winner if my life depended on it....ummm i'd either flip a coin or settle for trinidad

granted margarito busted cotto's nose in the 2nd round but cotto didn't look like he was effected by it until he gassed. margarito wasn't landing anything flush until the late rounds when cotto gassed. you don't know boxing or don't watch cotto enough. cotto always gasses. that's why cotto turns southpaw sometimes to rest his left arm. that's why cotto can counterpunch when he needs to. that's why cotto ran from mosely. This is why I have a tough time talking to you guys in denial. Cotto wasn't gassed, watch the fight again. He was moving as well in the last round as he was in the first, as a matter of fact I thought he landed his best punches in the 9th and 10th rounds. Damn, you guys are in denial. Marg won't be able to wear down tito or KO him late because Tito has good stamina and can fight late into the fight and still have KO power. style-wise the puncher beats the pressure fighter. styles make fights and margarito is fucked against tito. Style is out the window with Marg, his style fits everyone because he's slow and not a good boxer according to the people who criticize him. READ MY POST, I said Tito could KO him IF he landed something early but it wouldn't be easy, no way. If you think that your crazy or blind or both. Marg would give Tito a very tough fight because much smaller fighters have given Tito tougher fights and you guys are saying he wouldn't last past the 6th round?? Come on....

Margarito's style is taylor-made for Tito. Just as Mayorga had never been hurt/down in a pro fight until he fought Tito, Margarito (who has been hurt before) would just get obliterated by the 8th or 9th round. Also, Tito has some very good boxing ability. He's underrated when it comes to moving and jabbing, but Tito was actually a decent boxer. Plus, Tito is as tall, if not taller than Margarito, with longer arms, too.

Lets not get crazy here fellas. Tito was an ATG WW. Tito was 1-2 most powerful WW's of all time, Tito and Hearns. No man who stood in front of Tito and exchanged went the distance. Tito got beat by HOF's at 160lbs and above Hopkins, Winky, RJJ. Guess what they all had in common. They were all bigger and they were all defensive boxers. Tito was a big WW and Margarito wont have a size/strength advantage against him. Its a bad matchup for Margarito......check out the other threads I even had Tito KOing Cotto. This is no hate against Margarito just doesn't matchup well against Tito.

Now Marg is Vargas??LOL, I had to laugh at that one. thats ok i was laughing @ u now.. that cotto is tito...?? see same shit different oppinions...

Over 1 milliion thats for sure. I remember after Reid got the medal he then got signed by Goosen who gave him 1 million to sign with him. But Reid although became Champion and had a great payday against Triniadad didn't live up to the hype. Besides the eye problem he keep getting tired late in a fight. He move up in weight but after the Garcia and some other lose he retired. So im sure he made some good cash but if i recall he also had some beef with his wife or was it girlfriend don't recall exactly how that went. Dont know what he's up to now. I read the article.. It was a good read. He made around 6-8 million. That's not bad, but still sucks.. Short career man. I could imagine how mad he must've been, and still is.

I should have thought about it more clearly before posting it.. I could'nt remember it though. That's cleared out then. Thanks. But even puttin them with Trinidad was a poor decision. Made the eye even worse than what it was.. It sucks, but either way.. I wonder how much he made for the fight? Over 1 milliion thats for sure. I remember after Reid got the medal he then got signed by Goosen who gave him 1 million to sign with him. But Reid although became Champion and had a great payday against Triniadad didn't live up to the hype. Besides the eye problem he keep getting tired late in a fight. He move up in weight but after the Garcia and some other lose he retired. So im sure he made some good cash but if i recall he also had some beef with his wife or was it girlfriend don't recall exactly how that went. Dont know what he's up to now.

I should have thought about it more clearly before posting it.. I could'nt remember it though. That's cleared out then. Thanks. But even puttin them with Trinidad was a poor decision. Made the eye even worse than what it was.. It sucks, but either way.. I wonder how much he made for the fight? Here's a good article about him. And I was wrong, he picked up the injury in the amateurs. http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/columns/story?columnist=graham_tim&id=1750780

Reid already had the eye condition before the Trinidad fight, he got it early in his pro career when he got thumbed and it damaged his eyelid so he couldn't open his eyes fully. His management threw him in against Trinidad because they knew Reid couldn't fight on for much longer with the eye problem so they made the most money for Reid and themselves before Reid's eye condition worsened. I should have thought about it more clearly before posting it.. I could'nt remember it though. That's cleared out then. Thanks. But even puttin them with Trinidad was a poor decision. Made the eye even worse than what it was.. It sucks, but either way.. I wonder how much he made for the fight?