Hear me out.
I'm not saying that Calzaghe is the best fighter on the face of the planet, nor am I saying that he could not have done more with his career, nor am I saying that he's the greatest fighter of all time. He should've done more, he should've proven his abilities. He should've gone to America and he should've faced higher opposition earlier, taking a knock in money and home advantage for legacy.
HOWEVER, there are so many posts on here about how he is overrated, how he deserves no respect, how he is a bum, how he is a coward, how he would get exposed etc etc. Lets put this straight...
Out of the top guys in and around his division, if we were to put it to vote on an admittedly American-bias (and fair enough, there are more of them around) forum, who would win in a bout out of them and Calzaghe, not a single one of them would get the majority of votes over Joe. But there is a discrepancy between expectations and respect.
Bernard Hopkins
Kelly Pavlik
Roy Jones Jnr
Chad Dawson
Glen Johnson
Antonio Tarver
Jermaine Taylor
Mikkel Kessler
Anthony Mundine
Lucian Bute
Not a single one of them would take anywhere near 50% of the vote against Calzaghe and while he doesnt deserve credit for beating them (because he hasnt) he does at least deserve for the respect that you're showing him in suggesting that he would, to be demonstrated on this forum. If you cannot name a single fighter around his division, the one above and the one below that you could get a majority to agree would beat him, then you've got a fucking top top fighter there, NOT an 'over-rated euro limey f.a.g bum'.
LOL, a prime example in the reply - who could ask for better. Again you think I'm pissed off, I have thicker skin than that young man don't you worry about that. LMAO, what a mindset of self compliments you have dear boy.
Point I made WESS is I've personally factually corrected you many a time and seen others do as much - and you still rant on about things you clearly don't know about. That's not just on Calzaghe either. I'm not gona waste my time listing links, but even a few weeks ago I recollect you ranting on about a topic with such scrappy knowledge of the basic facts it was like the ramblings of a miss beauty queen talking about world peace.
So you trying to criticise my knowledge, some Calzaghe fans whom I've also seen correct YOU, and trying to appear whiter than white and credible is what's ironically hilarious and clown like.
Sure thing chief! Think what you want. I bet I have had MORE laughs than you. ;)
You're always a funny guy too! Thanks for being a clown of amusement! Think what you want. I don't bother with you half the time but This time I figured I would entertain you and reply to your "sensitive" self. I know it just pisses you off.
I hope you feel better now that you got that out.... silly guy!
I ALWAYS find YOU hilarious! thanks silver you are the best!
LOL, a prime example in the reply - who could ask for better. Again you think I'm pissed off, I have thicker skin than that young man don't you worry about that. LMAO, what a mindset of self compliments you have dear boy.
Point I made WESS is I've personally factually corrected you many a time and seen others do as much - and you still rant on about things you clearly don't know about. That's not just on Calzaghe either. I'm not gona waste my time listing links, but even a few weeks ago I recollect you ranting on about a topic with such scrappy knowledge of the basic facts it was like the ramblings of a miss beauty queen talking about world peace.
So you trying to criticise my knowledge, some Calzaghe fans whom I've also seen correct YOU, and trying to appear whiter than white and credible is what's ironically hilarious and clown like.
WESS you mouth off criticising Calzaghe all day like you know about him and his career. Yet time and time again you have things completely wrong, often factually. I've posted many a time only correcting you. A) You don't accept your wrong B) You make out it's being touchy.
So it makes you look like an idiot persistently saying what you do, and saying Joe fans are touchy. No, most are just being decent enough to correct you a lot of the time, because your a fool whom isn't educated on the boxing area's you claim to know about often, and this is glaringly obvious all over the forums mate I'm afraid.
Some Calzaghe fans are a little lame or alt's, but tha'ts true of other fighters and many on the forums. If you don't realise this then your judgement is worse than I'd thought. You really need to get this through your head dude, I know it's hard.
You're always a funny guy too! Thanks for being a clown of amusement! Think what you want. I don't bother with you half the time but This time I figured I would entertain you and reply to your "sensitive" self. I know it just pisses you off.
I hope you feel better now that you got that out.... silly guy!
I ALWAYS find YOU hilarious! thanks silver you are the best!
Thanks for looking out. Your statement also brings me to another point..........
EVERYONE'S too sensitive about there Joey. They get all DEFENSIVE anytime someone believes different from there "OWN" opinion. lighten up and except the fact that you CANT convenes EVERYONE.
WESS you mouth off criticising Calzaghe all day like you know about him and his career. Yet time and time again you have things completely wrong, often factually. I've posted many a time only correcting you. A) You don't accept your wrong B) You make out it's being touchy.
So it makes you look like an idiot persistently saying what you do, and saying Joe fans are touchy. No, most are just being decent enough to correct you a lot of the time, because your a fool whom isn't educated on the boxing area's you claim to know about often, and this is glaringly obvious all over the forums mate I'm afraid.
Some Calzaghe fans are a little lame or alt's, but tha'ts true of other fighters and many on the forums. If you don't realise this then your judgement is worse than I'd thought. You really need to get this through your head dude, I know it's hard.
joe is undefeated, even if it's mostly against "journeymen" there's still a zero in the loss category.
i respect joe, but TBH as a boxer he really hasnt fought anyone that is proven, MAYBE lacy. He fought bernard when he's 43 then he calls out RJJ gtfo of here. he calls himself a legend killer, easy to call himself that when the legend is already dead when he fights em.
it always seems to be like this, people that like joe defend him like he's their damn father and people that hate joe act like he banged their mom.
for me to consider joe to be one of the ATG he needs to fight a young and hungry and pavlik fits the bill.
you're basing this statement on a bunch of jerkoffs on an interent forum who probably started watching boxing when mayweather fought hatton.
And with that statement brings me to this. If Joe calzaghe is so great, you wouldn't need approval from Americans. They would know.
I'll use Ali as an example.
Ali is a great and is respected. We don't need the Brits approval do we?????????? When a fighter is great you don't need to sit there and defend him 24/7-365. You would just know and you can leave it at that.
So that brings me back to my original point. This thread is just another CRY BABY Joe Calzaghe fan and this thread only fuels the fire. Its just the SAME SHIT different day type of story.....
lol, Are you guys done BEGGING for that RESPECT??????? You gain respect NOT CRY an expect to try and PROVE based on your OWN opinions that Calzaghe deserves it. Like I said Actions speak louder than words, if Calzaghe is great his ACTIONS will speak for him not a bunch of CRY BABIES BEGGING FOR IT!
Are we done yet???????
Brits never get the credit they deserve from the American's and i don't know why
you're basing this statement on a bunch of jerkoffs on an interent forum who probably started watching boxing when mayweather fought hatton.
I don't hate Joe Calzaghe. I respect what he did in his career even tho a couple of years ago i had never heard about him. The first fight i saw from was his win agaisnt kessler, which was impressive considering kessler is a monster.
But like other people said, i just can't stand the way he fights, his punches are more like slaps and his style is more about making his opponents look bad than anything else.
So yeah, i don't hate Joe Calzaghe, but i just can't bring myself to enjoy watching him fight.
Joke Calslappy is a feather-fisted journeyman that looks like someone with a little sugar in their blood slapping at cobwebs. He spent his whole career in Europe fighting ordinary journeyman, finally steps up and fights a 43 year old former great (who he is floored in the 1st round by and looks terrible against) and people are trying to argue this guy should be #1 p4p? Puhleeeeeeze.
Honestly what is wrong with you? Look at the damn title of the thread.
Did you not say this?
Do you not understand what you just said?
Did you understand it?
Goodbye.
Why should there not be threads about Calzaghe? You might say the same about Mayweather, Cotto, Margarito, Hopkins, Jones, Pavlik. Surprise surprise, a boxing forum with threads about boxers!
Honestly what is wrong with you? Look at the damn title of the thread.
Pavlik nuthuggers, how does your man beat Calzaghe?
Did you not say this?
I don't really understand posters whose main interests seem to be 1) slating fighters they are not a particular fan of and 2) slagging off other fans, its pretty childish really, and its done solely to get a reaction.
By all means its good to argue about boxing, but once you get down to the level of playground name-calling and insults then all things considered its a waste of time.
Do you not understand what you just said?
Stop being Obtuse...
Yet we can't go a day go by without one thread like this not being made by a Joe fan...
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200491
Why should there not be threads about Calzaghe? You might say the same about Mayweather, Cotto, Margarito, Hopkins, Jones, Pavlik. Surprise surprise, a boxing forum with threads about boxers!
Yet we can't go a day go by without one thread like this not being made by a Joe fan...
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200491
Thanks for looking out. Your statement also brings me to another point..........
EVERYONE'S too sensitive about there Joey. They get all DEFENSIVE anytime someone believes different from there "OWN" opinion. lighten up and except the fact that you CANT convenes EVERYONE.
Yes, this is a boxing forum. It stands to reason that boxing fans will talk about their favourite boxers. I don't really understand posters whose main interests seem to be 1) slating fighters they are not a particular fan of and 2) slagging off other fans, its pretty childish really, and its done solely to get a reaction.
By all means its good to argue about boxing, but once you get down to the level of playground name-calling and insults then all things considered its a waste of time.
Yet we can't go a day without one thread like this not being made by a Joe fan...
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200491
Is that any different than praising Calzaghe and saying how underrated he is?
Yes, this is a boxing forum. It stands to reason that boxing fans will talk about their favourite boxers. I don't really understand posters whose main interests seem to be 1) slating fighters they are not a particular fan of and 2) slagging off other fans, its pretty childish really, and its done solely to get a reaction.
By all means its good to argue about boxing, but once you get down to the level of playground name-calling and insults then all things considered its a waste of time.
The only thing that is sad and pathetic is coming on a boxing forum and posting exclusively about how you do not like Joe Calzaghe. Get a life.
Me "disliking" Joe has nothing to do with everyone crying. As I stated before all this thread does is fuel the fire for REAL HATERS! Not only that, isn't there like a million threads already about how you guys are always begging for everyone to respect Joe and how everyone should believe that joe is the greatest? THAT'S ALL IM SAYING.
Same shit, different day! Like I said NO MATTER how much everyone cries, whines bitches, and begs, YOU CANT convene everyone. All you all are doing is FUELING THE FIRE! Like I said LET JOE do the talking in the ring.
Give me credit, I said I would give my respects to joe if he walks threw Jones to win a UD and fights PAV as i think EVERYONE will do. SO let Joe do the talking.......
The only thing that is sad and pathetic is coming on a boxing forum and posting exclusively about how you do not like Joe Calzaghe. Get a life.
Someone is bothered...lol
This is just sad. If people don't like calzaghe then they are NOT going to like him no matter HOW much you all cry and beg for people to believe otherwise. Its like your trying to convince people to LOVE your little hero Joey. Its really really really really sad and VERY PATHETIC. VERY VERY PATHETIC...
The fact that you all get mad and all upset when ever someone doesn't say joe is the greatest of all time is just pathetic. You will never convince everyone. No matter how much you all cry wine and complain.
I don't understand why these threads continue. Its funny to read because MOST of you SAY the same thing OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER again. Get over it. If Joe is as GOOD as you all say he is, then you all SHOULDN'T have to sit here and go on and on and on and defend him. Actions speak louder than words and well obviously Joe's actions have not if you guys all sit here and must defend his career over and OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER again while trying to convince people that Joe is something special. PATHETIC, yet amusing as always. Keep up the good work fellas! I get a few laughs out of it. Thanks
Also don't be the retard that gets there panties all wet saying im talking trash about there hero. Because I have not done that here. I'm just simply stating that with you all crying just fuels the fire and shows the HATERS that Joe is nothing but an average joe and that if he was anything other, you all wouldn't have to defend him 24/7-365!
I'm not a fan of Joe nor do I RESPECT anything he has EVER really done in the ring. I just see a guy that touches other guys for 12 rounds looking to win by points without ever looking that tired. That is actually impressive, the not getting tired part. AND If he were to ever BOX in the Olympics, I think he would be THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME. HE WOULD OUT TOUCH EVERYONE and WIN every fight, because that's how he fights "OLYMPIC STYLE" Which is why I do not and will not EVER like his style. But if he walks threw Jones by a UD and Fights Pavlik (NOT WIN BUT JUST FIGHTS) I will pay my respects. It wont be that much, but it will be more than I have for him now. I think MANY will have the same feelings if this does happen. I don't think there would be any other way to look at it, besides Joe getting his credit. fair?
The only thing that is sad and pathetic is coming on a boxing forum and posting exclusively about how you do not like Joe Calzaghe. Get a life.