Top undefeated fighters...

Linares fought Larios on an undercard of Hopkins-Wright, I think that's the only time he's been on US TV. He's a very good fighter. Right now I think Calzaghe is the best undefeated fighter, then Pavlik, Abraham and Guzman. Dawson and Berto are good.

When is Linares going to get his ass on American TV, so I can give this kid a look? It's shocking to me that some people hype him more than Gamboa, because Gamboa looked about as good as a young fighter can look IMO. Juan Manuel Lopez is getting quite a bit of love too, but I can understand that, he blew Daniel Ponce de Leon out in his last fight, something that no one has done anything close to. That right hook is just on fire. I'd love to see him in against Molitor or Caballero to get a better understanding of how good he is.

Sure Dawson is an incredibly talented young stud. but considering Light Heavy is lacking in the "big name" area .. outside of Tarver, Calzaghe and Roy Jones Jr. how do you all see the rest of Dawson's career panning out as 175 seems to be very shallow when compared to the Super Middleweight division for example. If i was Dawson, then i would stay at light heavyweight and become a dominate champion and maybe make a trip to super middleweight on special occasions for the big money fights. That is what i really think that he will do as long as he gets his style down right. He needs to tighen up his defense and have more use of the jab. I think he will be fine though. He just need to make it out of this year becuase 2008 is just cursed against unbeaten champions that are favorites to win..lol.

I think Linares has the potential to stay undefeated the longest, this kid IMHO has all the tools to stay there. Not disrespecting Pavlik or Calzaghe, as I think very highly of both. JuanMa, is also way up there in my book. I think JCC Jr., is way overrated, he should've lost his last fight. Once he steps up in comp, I think he's going to lose, he has 1 draw right now.

Sure Dawson is an incredibly talented young stud. but considering Light Heavy is lacking in the "big name" area .. outside of Tarver, Calzaghe and Roy Jones Jr. how do you all see the rest of Dawson's career panning out as 175 seems to be very shallow when compared to the Super Middleweight division for example.

As for my prediction on the fight, Dawson beats Tarver by unanimous decision. Simply too young, too strong and is the fresher fighter. Tarver has been on old legs in his recent fights and Dawson has too much energy. I figure since he was hit so often in his fight with Johnson, then he will be more smarter this time around and will not go in there looking for the knockout early becuase he would be giving Tarver his chances. I figure he will get his jab working early, do some good body work and systematically break Tarver down and put his punches together late and maybe get a stoppage there. This is a fight that he has been wanting for years so i am thinking that he will take full advantage of this opportunity.

Not to be a total fanboy, but... as usual, I agree with pretty much everything. I thought Tarver clearly beat Johnson both times. I think Tarver is going to beat Dawson, and actually pretty handily too, whether it be because he intimidates Dawson with the power of his left, or gets him out of there with a few good shots. And yes, Tarver's defense is the reason he has gotten so far. He did an excellent job of defense in both Johnson fights for sure. If Tarver catches Dawson directly on the chin with his hard straight left, then maybe he can get something done. We all know that Dawson has the better boxing ability, handspeed, and is the better on both outside and inside so Tarver out boxing him is highly unlikely. Dawson has done much better in technical boxing matches than Tarver has as well. Tarver can be out boxed becuase of his one dimensional style. Tarver is a good pick though. He has a better chin and more experience. I personally thought that Johnson beat Tarver in the first fight by 2 points but scored the second fight a point for Tarver. Both fights were razor thin.

pfft everyone who knows chad dawson knows he was an idiot that night...he tried to bomb away johnson early...if they fight again, chad wins 9 rounds..... glen is overrated.....his one great win is a gift over tarver....he also struggled with woods in their last fight(officially lost, even if half the people think he won)..... tarver is a problem for chad though..especially since i think chads jaw sucks... on another note....i was just watching tarver vs hopkins again....man tarver has a way of evading punches with his eyes closed its unbelievable...if he actually LOOKED good while defending, people would actually notice his defense is so good(for evading clean punches anyway...)but nah the guy flails around so much that it looks like he's getting pummeled... Not to be a total fanboy, but... as usual, I agree with pretty much everything. I thought Tarver clearly beat Johnson both times. I think Tarver is going to beat Dawson, and actually pretty handily too, whether it be because he intimidates Dawson with the power of his left, or gets him out of there with a few good shots. And yes, Tarver's defense is the reason he has gotten so far. He did an excellent job of defense in both Johnson fights for sure.

I have to tell you... Glen Johnson kicked his ass pretty bad for him to be considered the future of the sport. He outlanded him, but that was a really ugly decision win for Chad Dawson that a lot of people disputed. It's not good when you have to roll the dice on the judges appreciating your volume of punches over his less frequent, but a lot more effective punches. I would have been scared as hell if I was Dawson and had to wait for the judges decision in that fight. pfft everyone who knows chad dawson knows he was an idiot that night...he tried to bomb away johnson early...if they fight again, chad wins 9 rounds..... glen is overrated.....his one great win is a gift over tarver....he also struggled with woods in their last fight(officially lost, even if half the people think he won)..... tarver is a problem for chad though..especially since i think chads jaw sucks... on another note....i was just watching tarver vs hopkins again....man tarver has a way of evading punches with his eyes closed its unbelievable...if he actually LOOKED good while defending, people would actually notice his defense is so good(for evading clean punches anyway...)but nah the guy flails around so much that it looks like he's getting pummeled...

Dawson is top tier because he is considered the future of the LHW division. Dawson has as much talent as Guzman, Linares and Gamboa. Although I consider Gamboa the most talented out of the 4. Dawson has the potential to bigger star then any of those 3 because he is still young and undefeated. Linares is fighting in a division that's not lucrative, also Dawson is very flashy and exciting something that will draw fans. I have to tell you... Glen Johnson kicked his ass pretty bad for him to be considered the future of the sport. He outlanded him, but that was a really ugly decision win for Chad Dawson that a lot of people disputed. It's not good when you have to roll the dice on the judges appreciating your volume of punches over his less frequent, but a lot more effective punches. I would have been scared as hell if I was Dawson and had to wait for the judges decision in that fight.

Ivan Calderon is undefeated?!! I saw a fight where he was running and taking a serious beating?? WTF! The video didn't show who won at the end but Clderon lost so many rounds. i think calderon beat Cazares pretty clearly....BUT!!!! I THINK HE LOST TO ronald barrera......a journeyman gave a supposed near P4P hell(or P4P according to CRold.....) and shouldve beaten him.......juan esquer(a guy who has lost in every step up also gave him a scare)

Oh Jesus... Chad Dawson? Alright, that settles it... I need a nap or something, because obviously my brain isn't fucking working. I have a feeling Dawson exits this group after the Tarver bout. And in regards to Chris John, that reminds me of another fighter who refuses to fight real human beings... Zsolt Erdei! Also, Linares is supposively the top prospect of greatness in the sport right now, along with Gamboa and Guzman... We are getting quite the long list of undefeated fighters. I didn't realize so many were around that have actually proved themselves a bit. Dawson is top tier because he is considered the future of the LHW division. Dawson has as much talent as Guzman, Linares and Gamboa. Although I consider Gamboa the most talented out of the 4. Dawson has the potential to be the bigger star than any of those 3 because he is still young and undefeated. Linares is fighting in a division that's not lucrative, also Dawson is very flashy and exciting, something that will draw in fans.

I can't believe Casamayor vs. Marquez is on PPV and this isn't. I mean, I understand that Marquez is deemed by HBO to be a PPV star (he isn't by any means), but... I think Campbell vs. Guzman will have a much more profound impact on the sport currently and in the future. Thoughts? im strictly looking at it from an entertainment stand point (Nate/Guzman vs JMM vs Casamayor) and then throw in the fact that 1 of em's PPV, even MORE reason to watch Campbell/Guzman and I agree with the bold statement as after all Campbell does have the WBA, WBO and IBF 135 titles, which is just another reason why it'll be the more important fight. Casamayor-Marquez may have The Ring title and name recognition, though Trust me, I'm not missing this one, even though we just got rid of both HBO and Showtime. :( haha yeah I have that problem to work around as well.

whoops that question mighta also been by me. and at 36 years old, I would expect Joe Calzaghe to have one maybe 2 more fights tops after Jones Jr. yeah I've heard oodles about Guzman, only seen 1 of his fights .. Soto but it was damn impressive as Joan pitched a virtual shutout while making Soto look incredibly awkward/clumsy throughout some may say Guzman ran a bit much, but still he put on a show. **don't miss Campbell vs Guzman as not only should it be a damn good fight, but 3 Alphabet belts are on the line as well. I can't believe Casamayor vs. Marquez is on PPV and this isn't. I mean, I understand that Marquez is deemed by HBO to be a PPV star (he isn't by any means), but... I think Campbell vs. Guzman will have a much more profound impact on the sport currently and in the future. Thoughts? Trust me, I'm not missing this one, even though we just got rid of both HBO and Showtime. :(

whoops that question mighta also been by me. and at 36 years old, I would expect Joe Calzaghe to have one maybe 2 more fights tops after Jones Jr. yeah I've heard oodles about Guzman, only seen 1 of his fights .. Soto but it was damn impressive as Joan pitched a virtual shutout while making Soto look incredibly awkward/clumsy throughout some may say Guzman ran a bit much, but still he put on a show. **don't miss Campbell vs Guzman as not only should it be a damn good fight, but 3 Alphabet belts are on the line as well.

your forgetting another Andre Berto. just picked up the vacant WBC strap, and has his 1st title defense vs Forbes very exciting young fighter in one of the better boxing divisions although he's still evolving, getting better and should chase down the bigger name fights in a couple years time Another easy miss on my part. To answer the question someone asked about who will go the farthest... Obviously Joe Calzaghe is extremely likely to retire undefeated. He gets the vote. None of the guys who are up there right now really have shown me the stuff that is going to impress me into getting extremely excited about them. Guzman, Gamboa and Linares are considered the absolutely top prospects at ATG material, so I would choose one of them.

here's another question relating to the topic regarding the undefeated fighters out of all the ones still fighting (Calzaghe, Pavlik, Dawson, Povetkin) which one do you see going the furthest without picking up a loss? I can see Pavlik and Dawson possibly losing their next fights, but I think their youth will prevail. Povetkin is gonna get KTFO when he steps up to Wlad. Calzaghe will probably beat RJJ, after that who knows if he is even gonna fight again. On another note I hear really, really great things about Linares. If he is as good as some have made him out to be, at his age..... Is he really that good?

I still can't believe Pav's team made this fight. It really is a lose-lose situation for Kelly. yeah no kidding .. B-Hop's 43 years old and coming off a loss, if he loses to Pavlik it's no surprise and if Bernard can win, very big upset **I actually just made a topic kinda relating to that bolded statement, check it out if/when u get a chance.

Is that Povetkin-Wlad fight still on the books? yeah Hopkins will be really tough for Pavlik to get by, it would be really shitty for Kelly to lose his 0 in a catch weight bout. I still can't believe Pav's team made this fight. It really is a lose-lose situation for Kelly.

Chad Dawson