I think the Heavy Weight division is ruined simply because the guys are just too big. Long gone are the days of the Heavy Wieghts being 5' 11 to 6'2 210 to 225 lbs. Now we have these huge men who weigh anywhere from 230 to 300 pounds. You got guys from 6' 4 to 7' 1 with last names I can't pronounce much less spell. they fumble around the ring and some one has to tap one of them on the shoulder to remind them they are in a fight not a wrestling contest. Vlad the so called best of the worst is the most boring champ since I can ever remember. I saw a fight where he didn't throw one single punch other then a jab for the 1st five rounds. My take in this is put a cap on the weight for Heavy weights again. Creat a super EHavy weight divison like the old days and bring the Old School heavy Weights back. the guys like Tyson, Fraizer, Holyfield, Holmes, guys that were big but not basket ball players. If I want to see to guys over 6' 5 fist fight I will tune inot a NBA game that Ron Artest is playing in. Come on man!!!!
the problem here is that the smaller heavyweights have no skill at all.
i assure that if tyson was fighting now, all those giants would fall down...and the bigger the harder the fall would be :P
What moron wrote this post.
Only the amature have had Super HW
They did split the HW division back in the early 80's the lower half is now called the Cruiser weights and it is arguablly the shittiest division ever made. PPL either start out in it to go up to HW or go down to LHW or washed up HWs go there to die.
Making a super HW division would only mean that ever one would consider the SHWs the real champs and the new lighter HWs would be like the CWs.
Good thinking sparky
My point exactly leave all the super HW in their own boring class and bring back the 6'0 210-220 lbs fighters. I had to bring this one back. Who still doesnt think they should bring back SHW?
Hold up. You want more divisions?:eek:
We currently have 17 divisions, with 4 belts per division, for a total of 68 different belts. I know, lets add more.
Ridiculous, you cant blame it all on the big guys Ruiz was boring as shit and he wasnt a Super HW. If these smaller HWs fought like Tyson,Ali,Frazier and so on they'd be knockin the hell out of some of these monsters. Sultan is also boring as hell btw.
What about Nicolay Valuev, who can beat and compete with quality, smaller heavyweights? Or the Klitschkos, who weigh in over 240 regularly? Or Lennox Lewis or Riddick Bowe, they wouldn't have been heavyweights and would be ineligible for the heavyweight title, the most prestigious prize in sport.
The Klits and Lewis are around 245 lbs or so. I said limit the weight class to 235. I see these guys trying to come in and making 235lbs or so if they had to in order to get their pay check,. The 7 foot giant well i am sorry I would never buy a PPV to see him fight never!!!
There should be a weight limit of 240, so we don't have fatties like Chris Koval boxing in the division.
They could make a super heavyweight division (that only one sanctioning body covers) for Valuev, Fields etc.
What about Nicolay Valuev, who can beat and compete with quality, smaller heavyweights? Or the Klitschkos, who weigh in over 240 regularly? Or Lennox Lewis or Riddick Bowe, they wouldn't have been heavyweights and would be ineligible for the heavyweight title, the most prestigious prize in sport.
I don't think they should. Their ain't enough talent for it ya kno? The division is gettin better after borin ass 07 and 08, now we got Haye fightin someone and Arreola is in an entertainin fight. V. Klitschko is back and Chagaev is about to come back from one of his injuries. Odlanier is comin up and this is a good who's weight should be regulated ya kno? Dude could hav such a better work rate and speed but he chooses to come in 20 lbs more then he should be, Denis Boystov is gettin there also and Dimitrenko is gonna have a big year next year along with Povetkin and Wlad fightin. 2009 I got my hopes up for this division.
really?
didnt 6.1 225brewster beat wlad and his the chunky one.
and didnt chagev 6.1 220 beat valuev?
even ruiz at 6.8 and 230almost beat valuev.
point is the biggest guys will always draw the crowd and less talented superheavy divison would be even more boring
My point exactly leave all the super HW in their own boring class and bring back the 6'0 210-220 lbs fighters. I had to bring this one back. Who still doesnt think they should bring back SHW?
I know this might sound lame but its just not fair. Can we really see a fighter like Eddie Chambers beating someone like Valuev or Klitschko? There are simply too big and should be fighting fighters that are actually their size.
really?
didnt 6.1 225brewster beat wlad and his the chunky one.
and didnt chagev 6.1 220 beat valuev?
even ruiz at 6.8 and 230almost beat valuev.
point is the biggest guys will always draw the crowd and less talented superheavy divison would be even more boring
I think 6 miles would be too much for heavyweights........like with Briggs you could set a 1/2 mile lol
I bet you Wlad can run 6 miles because he's in shape. 6 miles sounds reasonable to me, tbh.
Althought being a good idea, it would cause some problems.
What if a figther is 1% above the limit? You can't call off a heavyweight unification bout. Getting rid of water is much easier in a small time than getting rif of fat.
Well, they shouldnt do a 24hr weigh in. They should pass the body fat % well in advance to avoid stuff like that.
I have an even BETTER idea. They should have a Body Fat % limit and they should also pass a couple of tests like a 6mile run (so that would mean Briggs would be forced to retire)
Althought being a good idea, it would cause some problems.
What if a figther is 1% above the limit? You can't call off a heavyweight unification bout. Getting rid of water is much easier in a small time than getting rif of fat.
The big guys have always been around.
Valuev is ridiculously slow, easy to hit and can be outboxed, as 6'1, 225 lb Chagaev showed .
Fields is a glass chinned slugger with no talent and was knocked out by a 6'3, 220 lb man.
Klitschko is actually 6'5, around 235-240 lbs, no bigger than Lewis or Bowe. He was also knocked out by 6'2, 225 lb Brewster.
true...
Even without the weight limit HW's have had to find smaller guys to fight to keep up with the competition....
Tyson Vs Spinks
Louis Vs Conn
Ali Vs Moore
Marciano (even though he was a small HW) Vs Charles & Moore
The big guys have always been around.
Valuev is ridiculously slow, easy to hit and can be outboxed, as 6'1, 225 lb Chagaev showed (and many others who did not get the decision over him).
Fields is a glass chinned slugger with no talent and was knocked out by a 6'3, 220 lb man.
Klitschko is actually 6'5, around 235-240 lbs, no bigger than Lewis or Bowe. He was also knocked out by 6'2, 225 lb Brewster.
The fights between the 'little' heavyweights are no better these days.
I have an even BETTER idea. They should have a Body Fat % limit and they should also pass a couple of tests like a 6mile run (so that would mean Briggs would be forced to retire)
I think 6 miles would be too much for heavyweights........like with Briggs you could set a 1/2 mile lol
I know this might sound lame but its just not fair. Can we really see a fighter like Eddie Chambers beating someone like Valuev or Klitschko? There are simply too big and should be fighting fighters that are actually their size.
This man gets the whole post...Exactly sir we need these guys to fight guys their owns size ...It would open opportunities for more guy in the 5' 11 to 6'3 range to have their shot at the titles and maybe more of these guys would aspire to be boxers???
I know this might sound lame but its just not fair. Can we really see a fighter like Eddie Chambers beating someone like Valuev or Klitschko? There are simply too big and should be fighting fighters that are actually their size.