Did Joe Calzaghe ruin Jeff Lacy or was he nothing special to begin with?

It's not just Americans that think Calzaghe is a joke. Saying Pavlik is like Lacy is the one of the most stupid remarks I've heard. Pavlik has the one big win on his resume that says he can be a world beater, he beat the undefeated Jermain Taylor -- 2 times. He beat Edison Miranda (basically a Jeff Lacy). He's got a pretty stark resume to, but he doesn't go around claiming he's a world beater, when in fact, he is. Pavlik would crush Calzaghe, Taylor is better than anyone on Calzaghe's resume by far. someone should quote me saying Pavlik would destroy Calzaghe, put it in their sig in case the fight does happen. It's spelled, btw Calzaghe fools people with 40+ Gary Locketts and calls them solid competition. Damn, The truth always hurts. I bet you just made someone cry!

It's not just Americans that think Calzaghe is a joke. Saying Pavlik is like Lacy is the one of the most stupid remarks I've heard. Pavlik has the one big win on his resume that says he can be a world beater, he beat the undefeated Jermain Taylor -- 2 times. He beat Edison Miranda (basically a Jeff Lacy). He's got a pretty stark resume to, but he doesn't go around claiming he's a world beater, when in fact, he is. Pavlik would crush Calzaghe, Taylor is better than anyone on Calzaghe's resume by far. someone should quote me saying Pavlik would destroy Calzaghe, put it in their sig in case the fight does happen. Usually a person's name is spelt with a capital. It's spelled, btw Calzaghe fools people with 40+ Gary Locketts and calls them solid competition.

You know exactly what Im talking you lying sack of shit , and while your playing the role of school teacher check your spelling mistakes before you throw stones at others . LOL, lying, about what. Dude you've been watching too much tv. I wasn't defending anyone I was challenging bsrizpaks statements as I often have before alone. I also wasn't particularly rude or anything, so get a grip were adults. I was on topic and objective on Glenn Johnson and the topic was constantly being steered off topic, even off boxing. One of which being spelling which I was emphasising I don't care about. You clearly didn't judge this well, well along with several other posts since arriving late in with wild pre conceptions - akin to beating a dead horse. Night.

Your on that soapbox again Kris , that is concerning , 3 in a quarrel generally means somebody is 2 outed , is it just a coincidence that it concerns a Brit fighter or a Brit poster or that's what you look for and deliberately hone in on . I have no idea what your on about, as in literally. That was a one of the most incoherent, grammatically poor, weird posts I've ever seen. I'm not going to get into your weird conspiracy beliefs and nationalistic agenda, and won't be replying or entertaining it or you. $5 says you start to ramble on about SAD syndrome in the UK or something werid again though...peculiar chap.

man the failboat is epic. So glen should have waited around forever for maybe Calzaghe postponed it at third time? Come on. As far as the grammar police. Get real. Go back and look at what he said. If you want to defend that guy go right ahead. I was being polite to him and he turned into a twat, as usual. He's a douche and nationalistic dickhead. I do criticize Calzaghe. So what? I've also said he's a good to very good fighter and probably the best supermiddle ever since he's had the most longevity ever. Sorry that bothers you. Maybe if you posted about stuff other than Joe you'd not get so riled up about it. Your way of not getting the point or digesting what's been said is incredibly concerning. You started the grammar stuff and you've made grammar mistakes loads even there. That's off topic, hypocritical, and you trying to excuse why you can do it but the other guy can't. That's ridiculous. I criticise Calzaghe sometimes, I criticise lots of boxers and things. But I try to only comment or vote if I actually know significant amounts of information about the topic area. What's wrong with talking about Calzaghe mostly, you do it at times, and I'm clearly more educated on some of the basic facts whereas you exaggerate some stuff, make false comments and accusations, and rant on all day. I'm not defending anyone. I talk on other boxers a fair bit, I don't like Clinton Woods or Mayweather much, but I don't apply a ridiculously cynical attitudes and rant about the negaitives of them as if I know it all, because I don't. You on the other hand are a bottomless hole of cynical rants on, errors, exaggerations, lame one line posts, flaming, arguing, and being hypocritical. It brings the forum down and that's what gets me with you. Let it go.

USA Population = 303,885,000 UK Population = 60,587,300 USA Linear/Ring Championships Owned = 1 UK Linear/Ring Championships = 4 Rule, Britannia! No you didn't, you came here to be a spineless nationalistic troll. And you've done a fine job. You also came here to be a complete asshole to anyone who tries to attempt to speak to you politely. Good job, dickhead. I believe I was speaking about boxing until some arrogant cunt tried to tell me what words I should and shouldn't use. :lol1: That sig really burns you up doesnt it?? Its just a list of facts. You can research them all. Rule, Britannia is just a song. Calm down.

Join Date. The idiotic shit you spew about boxing. Fanboy. Link to the Calzaghe quote please. Whenever you're ready.

Look you've mastered the art of the apostrophe. Good job Brit. For a guy who owns the language such as you claimed you did, I'm impressed. I didnt claim anything of the sort. You see, I couldnt give a fuck what words you use, how you spell them or where the words originate from. I come on here to discuss boxing not be told how to speak by Captain Spell Check

lmao. You've been watching boxing for about a week. Loser. He himself said it. It was quoted all around the forum for a long time. Sorry that you only joined last week. Proof please.

man the failboat is epic. So glen should have waited around forever for maybe Calzaghe postponed it at third time? Come on. As far as the grammar police. Get real. Go back and look at what he said. If you want to defend that guy go right ahead. I was being polite to him and he turned into a twat, as usual. He's a douche and nationalistic dickhead. I do criticize Calzaghe. So what? I've also said he's a good to very good fighter and probably the best supermiddle ever since he's had the most longevity ever. Sorry that bothers you. Maybe if you posted about stuff other than Joe you'd not get so riled up about it. Usually a person's name is spelt with a capital. You're welcome.

Don't forget to post those sports and betting lines for everyone since it's "common knowledge". This coming from the guy who stated that Joe Calzaghe said he didnt want to fight Roy Jones because he was "too good". Upon asking him for proof, his response was: "Its common knowledge" Is your face not a bit dirty from the amount of shit you rub into it?

I think this post pretty much speaks for itself. We're done here. If you haven't heard the talk of Lacy-Taylor, it's because you aren't a boxing fan. Period. PEACE. Yes I have heard of the upcoming talk of "THE BATTLE OF THE OVERRATEDS"!!!!! I am also done with you.:kabong:

Uh are you retarded? Still going on about your phantom paranoid delusions about my karma bar? I already explained to you twat- it was Spamorak who put it there and I don't care about karma either. And grammar mistakes are fine. Can you even read? I SAID, I'm attacking HIM because he was a condescending little shitbag know-it-all that didn't think a "yank" could ever master "his language". So fuck you. I didn't attack your grammar. And I'm "never wrong"? Oh is that why I APOLOGIZED to you for calling you Hugh? Jesus man. You really are paranoid. Instead of freaking out about other posters who are retaliating to trolls, karma bars, and "attitudes" maybe you should learn something about boxing other than Joe Calzaghe? Hmmm? Sound like a good idea? Ok about the karma bar, fair enough for saying what got you it. Your attacking someone's grammar but won't take it when someone points our your typo's. That's all there is to it. No excuses. Your argumentative and won't drop it. I wasn't really talking about mistaking me for hugh ok you admitted that but it's obvious you got the wrong person. You haven't admitted your wrong on Glenn Johnson, a duck is not being injured and still willing to fight, with the other guy not. I talk about quite a few boxers, yes mostly Calzaghe as well done he's my fav. But I mostly only talk about what I know about, be it Calzaghe related or not. Search the forums you'll see that. You on the other hand criticise Joe all day arguing about things which aren't true and often just exaggerated and invented in your head.

No. It's like debating with my niece. I could go back and show you what a dense idiot you are but I lack patience. Goodbye. Finally you realized that you was ridiculous in keep asking me to answer your question. A question i was asking you to answer me.

The second part is Captain Obvious at work. Thanks Captain. Already went over that a dozen times. First part: Please post proof that this was TRUE IN BRITAIN. If you've been watching boxing longer than a year (doubtful) or on this forum for longer than a year, you'd know it was 50/50 on here and in the USA. Those threads got bumped before the last time some jackass brought up this argument. I'm not doing it again. Post the link to the British pundits, sportsline, or news media that overwhelmingly said Mayweather would crush him. LOL. This guy clearly doesnt have a clue. Im not talking about what people say on a fucking forum. A lot of people on this forum are fucking clueless like you. Post the link. :lol1: By your statements you clearly believe that British bookies and experts backed Hatton in the same way they did Lacy. Which is quite laughable. Google search Hatton vs Mayweather odds. Its like asking me to prove that the sky is blue.

Lacy was good. He was knocking everybody out and was fearless. He was a world champion. It's easy to look at him now and say "he was never that good anyway". But a lot of people before the fight picked Lacy to win. Joe Calzaghe is just a great fighter and yes I think he did ruin Lacy to the point where Lacy will never be the same.great post ! At least theirs one man that aint afraid to resight the truth at the time of the fight !:You_Rock_

It started because you're a stupid douchebag that doesn't know what Yank means. I was trying to help you out. And was talking to you politely. But you are a condescending little shit aren't you? Language evolves you idiot. Look that one up. The language is mostly Latin and Germanic anyway. Some big feat that it's called English. Who gives a shit? And and by the way, you forgot the to make it "it's". See in English ( you know, YOUR language, and where YOU are from) we use these little symbols called apostrophes to indicate possession. Glad this "yank" could help you out, twat. Don't forget to post those sports and betting lines for everyone since it's "common knowledge". Please dont use the word "douchebag". It actually originates from the acient African Zulu tribe and is a very offensive and racist term. It makes you sound ignorant. Please don't use it again.

Hey you are the clown who keeps forgetting what hes talking about. I am the one who originally said who the hell has Kessler beat that warrants everyone thinking he could was going to spank JC? We agree that JC had beaten better people than Kessler. I was saying this from the start. So how can people say he was too good good for JC even though JC beat better people. So why on good gods earth are you asking me to answer your question, which is what i was asking from the outset? Answer my original question. Why do people so easily overat Lacy and kessler and are slow as tortoises to praise JC. Brispac already answered. Because people hate JC. So do you really try want to continue debating with me son.? No. It's like debating with my niece. I could go back and show you what a dense idiot you are but I lack patience. Goodbye.

LOL@ this clown. ANSWER THE F*CKING QUESTION: WHO DID MIKKEL KESSLER BEAT THAT QUALIFIES HIM TO BE CONSIDERED ANYTHING MORE THAN A GOOD FIGHTER?? Hey you are the clown who keeps forgetting what i was talking about and also what you are talking about. I am the one who originally said who the hell has Kessler beat that warrants everyone thinking he was going to spank JC? We agree that JC had beaten better people than Kessler. I was saying this from the start. So how can people say he was too good for JC even though JC beat better people. So why on good gods earth are you asking me to answer your question, which is what i was asking from the outset? Answer my original question. Why do people so easily overate Lacy and kessler and are slow as tortoises to praise JC? Brispac already answered. Because people hate JC. So ive finally got my answer. So do you really try want to continue debating with me son? You can stop asking me to answer your question for starters! Do you agree?

Alot of Calzaghe fans are trying to give credit to Calzaghe because of Lacy's poor performances in his recent fights. Did he really ruin him OR was he just a overmuscled one-punch-at-a-time freak? My opinion is that he was no better than a Juan Urango - another overmuscled no talent fighter. Lacy was good. He was knocking everybody out and was fearless. He was a world champion. It's easy to look at him now and say "he was never that good anyway". But a lot of people before the fight picked Lacy to win. Joe Calzaghe is just a great fighter and yes I think he did ruin Lacy to the point where Lacy will never be the same.