the Heavyweight division

the ppl in this forum know everything about all the top fighters in the hw division. if there ever was a hw fighter that was really good, they would recognize it. wlad lacks alot of skill to be considered a great fighter. and even if his skill is lacking, he could atleast put on a great performance by fighting with heart and guts but the guy fights extremely boring especially against mediocre opponents. I understand that it isn't wlad's fault that there isn't much competition in that division but the least he could do is make the most of the fights that he does have. ibragimov and thompson were awful performances. they will not give Wladimir any recognition cause they have made their minds about him the same way they have with Hatton Wladimir does not lack skill he is a very technically skilled Heavyweight ,did the Sam Peter fight not entertain you ? it was not Joe Louis fault he faced poor competition but he still got notoriety ,why because he is American

the division is not weak it is ruled by fighters that people know little about their is a big difference the ppl in this forum know everything about all the top fighters in the hw division. if there ever was a hw fighter that was really good, they would recognize it. wlad lacks alot of skill to be considered a great fighter. and even if his skill is lacking, he could atleast put on a great performance by fighting with heart and guts but the guy fights extremely boring especially against mediocre opponents. I understand that it isn't wlad's fault that there isn't much competition in that division but the least he could do is make the most of the fights that he does have. ibragimov and thompson were awful performances.

Besides Tyson, none of the greats were KO'd that fast. That's why I bring it up. it does not make him any greater he was still overated and should of had more than enough left in the tank to beat an old ring worn Evander Holyfield i guess u have another excuse for that though ,Don King,Robin Gibbins lol

If Wlad was more exciting and dominated the Division then he would be celebrated. Tony Thompson is not a valid claim for Wlad's championship claim. Tony Thompson peformance is not the yard stick

u only specify that because Mike Tyson was no better than Wlad and that is the only thing u can do to try and compare him to Wlad which is clearly lame Tyson was overated but he gets more respect than Wlad and he was a convicted rapist None of the greats were KO'd that fast. That's why I bring it up.

in a way im glad Wladimir is disliked by so many it makes the victories all the sweeter because people hate the fact a white European is the king pin of Boxing If Wlad was more exciting and dominated the Division then he would be celebrated. Tony Thompson is not a valid claim for Wlad's championship claim.

Did you see Lewis face after the Mercer fight. I seriously doubt Wlad could take that kind of beating and still win. He's already shown he can't take that kind of beating.:wave: who cares what his face looked like lol ,Mercer was still overated

A lot of us don't hate the fact that he's white, we just think its silly when he's called great when he is just very good. What has he accomplished to be considered great?How many great HW's got KO'd in TWO rounds? u only specify that because Mike Tyson was no better than Wlad and that is the only thing u can do to try and compare him to Wlad which is clearly lame Tyson was overated but he gets more respect than Wlad and he was a convicted rapist

i brought up Spinks best win which was an aged Larry Holmes styles make fights and Mercer could always be outboxed it does not mean Holmes was not past his best and that Spinks never benefitted from his wear and tear age etc Did you see Lewis face after the Mercer fight. I seriously doubt Wlad could take that kind of beating and still win. He's already shown he can't take that kind of beating.:wave:

in a way im glad Wladimir is disliked by so many it makes the victories all the sweeter because people hate the fact a white European is the king pin of Boxing A lot of us don't hate the fact that he's white, we just think its silly when he's called great when he is just very good. What has he accomplished to be considered great? How many great HW's got KO'd in TWO rounds?

You brought up Holmes. T-97- :luvbed: OK OK :wave: i brought up Spinks best win which was an aged Larry Holmes styles make fights and Mercer could always be outboxed it does not mean Holmes was not past his best and that Spinks never benefitted from his wear and tear age etc

we are talking about Spinks lol You brought up Holmes. T-97- :luvbed: OK OK :wave:

in a way im glad Wladimir is disliked by so many it makes the victories all the sweeter because people hate the fact a white European is the king pin of Boxing

So you're saying that Sam Peter and Chris Byrd are better than Michael Spinks and Max Schmelling...good conversating with you. .........as good dont twist it

That shot Larry Holmes defeated Ray Mercer a few years later. Mercer at that time was better than any opponent Wlad has faced, and that same shot Holmes would have beat Wlad too if it happened today. we are talking about Spinks lol Beating someone quick is really getting the job done. Hello!!!:wave: getting the job done is getting the "W" on your record being a Floyd Mayweather fan u should understand that

beating somebody quickly means nothing getting the job done is where its at Beating someone quick is really getting the job done. Hello!!!:wave:

Sam Peter ,Chris Byrd are very good Heavyweights Michael Spinks was no better than the guys above he beat a shot Larry Holmes and got destroyed by Tyson and the Holmes fight was debatable That shot Larry Holmes defeated Ray Mercer a few years later. Mercer at that time was better than any opponent Wlad has faced, and that same shot Holmes would have beat Wlad too if it happened today.

Tyson definitely would have KO'd most of those boys faster than Wlad does. That's the difference. beating somebody quickly means nothing getting the job done is where its at

Tyson definitely would have KO'd most of those boys faster than Wlad does. That's the difference. I agree. He was less technical than Wlad and went out there to kill! Wlad has the power to take guys out quick but fights in a way that means he sometimes does not.

Tyson definitely would have KO'd most of those boys faster than Wlad does. That's the difference.