Prime Lennox V Prime Vitali

1. How much did he weigh for Botha? Because it sure wasn't 256 and again look at his physique in the Botha fight and then look at his physique in the Klitschko fight, you'll see a big, big difference. 2. Their punch output was not normal for heavyweights. 3 & 4. Better shape does not translate to better stamina, Klitschko was in great shape as evidenced by the weight he came in at and his physique. There was no need to respond to 5. 6. Not slightly above, very much higher than usual. 7. As I said, look at his shape against Tyson and Rahman, he was 7 or 8 pounds lighter against Tyson. 8. Lewis wasn't throwing as many punches as Klitschko, Klitschko was winning because of his high workrate and clean punches landed, he threw so many punches for a heavyweight, he got tired, is that surprising to you? And you still refuse to acknowledge that Lewis was gasping for air in the corner and collapsed onto his stool before they stopped the fight. And again, look at Lewis' physique, he was very out of shape and looked fat around the stomach.1. He was at his heavyweight at that time just like he was at his heaviest the night he foguht Vitali. Physique? Tell that to fatso Toney. LOL! 2. Vilatli's punch output wasn't normal for a heavy that's why it was very unusual fo him that he got tired in the mid rounds. Boy, he was that out of shape! 3-4. You're contradicting yourself here. Check out my number 2 answer. 5. Why is that? Trying to avoid the big question eh. 6. Check out his other fights. He's a heavyweight with a very awkward style but a very skilled boxer and tremendous stamina. He wouldn't be that tired if he was in shape. 7. What does it mean? Check out number 1. He was at his heaviest at the time agaisnt Botha and he blew the guy out in two. This weight issue only came out when he performed shit. 8. That's becuase Vitali's work rate is much higher than Lennox's plus how could he threw punches when he was getting tagged and all he could do was keep his guards up. Also, Lewis couldn't trade with Vitali who's got the faster hands. To sum it all up Lewis punch output was low because of Vitali's activity not because he was out of shape. If you don't believe me or you're just being a hard headed then better check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVR4dudizEc

1. Why was his weight not an issue when he was at his heaviest when he fought botha? It's because Lennox knocked him out. His weight only became an issue when he fought a Vitali. 2. So why bring this up when that was his average punch/round. 3 & 4. That doesn't make sense at all specially when you said Vitali's work rate was high for a heavyweight but then slowed down in the mid rounds. I really don't know how you can say he was in shape. Where's number 5? 6. Finally. But his work rate in the first 4 rounds were just slightly above his usual work rate? There was a dramatic change starting in the 5th, and if it's not being out of shape then what is it exactly. 7. He had back to back ko wins. What are you talking about? Tell me he didn't look good against Mike and Rahman. 8. Vitali was winning because he's the one landing the heavier blows that rocked Lewis a few times. Lewis was used to fighting smaller men and bigger guys who aint as skilled and awkward as Vitali. Vitali's work rate dropped, Lewis kept his in the 6th. Now which fighter was out of shape? 1. How much did he weigh for Botha? Because it sure wasn't 256 and again look at his physique in the Botha fight and then look at his physique in the Klitschko fight, you'll see a big, big difference. 2. Their punch output was not normal for heavyweights. 3 & 4. Better shape does not translate to better stamina, Klitschko was in great shape as evidenced by the weight he came in at and his physique. There was no need to respond to 5. 6. Not slightly above, very much higher than usual. 7. As I said, look at his shape against Tyson and Rahman, he was 7 or 8 pounds lighter against Tyson. 8. Lewis wasn't throwing as many punches as Klitschko, Klitschko was winning because of his high workrate and clean punches landed, he threw so many punches for a heavyweight, he got tired, is that surprising to you? And you still refuse to acknowledge that Lewis was gasping for air in the corner and collapsed onto his stool before they stopped the fight. And again, look at Lewis' physique, he was very out of shape and looked fat around the stomach.

Lennox Lewis Not Shit Fighter. You Make Joke? Why You Say That? Lennox Lewis Fight Lot Of Good Fighter. He Fight Tyson , He Fight Holyfield , He Fight Briggs , He Fight Vitali , He Fight Rahman. Lennox Lews Fight Good Fighter Not Shit Fighter. lol thanks for capitalising my quote.

I Dont No Why So Many People Pick Lewis. Must Be Lot Of English People On Forum. They Also Pick Lewis By Knock Out. Funny. Vitali Never Be Stop By Knock Out. Only Doctor Stop Fight Because Of Broken Shoulder And Bad Cut. If Vitali Not Get Cut By Lucky Punch Vitali Ko Lennox Lewis. Vitali As Strong As Lewis But Very Tougher. Lewis Have Glass Chin. dude look at his resume, shit fighter after shit fighter. when he did step up he had to quit as he couldn't handle the task. http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=7033&cat=boxer :lol1:

I Dont No Why So Many People Pick Lewis. Must Be Lot Of English People On Forum. They Also Pick Lewis By Knock Out. Funny. Vitali Never Be Stop By Knock Out. Only Doctor Stop Fight Because Of Broken Shoulder And Bad Cut. If Vitali Not Get Cut By Lucky Punch Vitali Ko Lennox Lewis. Vitali As Strong As Lewis But Very Tougher. Lewis Have Glass Chin. Lewis didn't have a glass chin. Vitali had a knock out percentage of 90% when he fought Lewis and i didn't see Lewis out on his feet at anytime during the fight and he was caught with plenty of flush bombs. He just didn't react well to the shots that he didn't see coming. Oh and hey WladOwns. Will your other account be unbanned by the time Dawson is finshed with Tarver?

An old Lewis gave Vitali problems and busted him up badly, a young Lennox would have been in shape and had the youngers legs needed and out box Klitschko. He is the more loose boxer. Vitali would give him problems so make no mistake about it, but a young Lennox Lewis was simply too good. Lewis UD.

I think that no matter what, Vitali gives Lennox problems. Lennox can't KO Vitali, I don't think anyone can. That uppercut he took was enough to put ANYONE out for the 10 count and Vitali took it, chewed it up, spit it out and gave Lewis an uppercut right back. Possibly Lewis by SD, possibly Vitali by KO. Who knows. You can't sit there and say Lennox would have destroyed Vitali though because he took all of Lewis's shots and vice versa. I personally think though, Lewis would have eventually crumpled in the later rounds from Vitali's constant punishment and workrate.

....I don't know how anyone could be so sure on this one. Big Vit was never close to being dropped and never stopped outside of injury. I think his style gives Lennox problems no matter when they fought.

1. Why was his weight not an issue when he was at his heaviest when he fought botha? It's because Lennox knocked him out. His weight only became an issue when he fought a Vitali. 2. So why bring this up when that was his average punch/round. 3 & 4. That doesn't make sense at all specially when you said Vitali's work rate was high for a heavyweight but then slowed down in the mid rounds. I really don't know how you can say he was in shape. Where's number 5? 6. Finally. But his work rate in the first 4 rounds were just slightly above his usual work rate? There was a dramatic change starting in the 5th, and if it's not being out of shape then what is it exactly. 7. He had back to back ko wins. What are you talking about? Tell me he didn't look good against Mike and Rahman. 8. Vitali was winning because he's the one landing the heavier blows that rocked Lewis a few times. Lewis was used to fighting smaller men and bigger guys who aint as skilled and awkward as Vitali. Vitali's work rate dropped, Lewis kept his in the 6th. Now which fighter was out of shape? So? Lennox Lewis was how old f*cking old again? And correct me if I'm wrong but...didn't he win by sixth round TKO? Some of you make it sound like it ended on an accidental headbutt. It was a straight right hand dead on his eye, I might also add that Vitali's lip was as busted as sh*t going into the seventh AND he was swelling up. After a strong start, he was getting busted up by Lewis and his face was giving way. He ended the sixth doing what, eating four straight uppercuts? And there it ends. And that's all you need to know about what would have happened if Lennox was in his prime. Or, to rephrase the question, could Lennox Lewis have done better than a sixth round TKO if he was in his prime? Because that's what this thread is really asking.

1. Seriously, look at his physique for the Tyson fight and look at his physique for the Klitschko fight, you'll see a huge difference. 2. I never said I was surprised, I said it was a high workrate for heavyweights. 3 and 4. As lefthooktua said, better shape doesn't translate to having better stamina, Vitali was in magnificent shape as you can see by his physique as well as him coming in at his normal weight for the fight. But they were both very, very tired, Lewis was gasping for air in his corner and pretty much collapsed on his stool before the fight was stopped. 6. As I have said, they were both very tired, maybe Vitali was more tired because of his workrate. 7. I meant look at his previous fights to see how much he had slipped. 8. Vitali was winning because of his high workrate and Lewis being out of shape, he was in great shape as he has said himself, he never said he was out of shape, he said he was in shape and prepared for the fight.1. Why was his weight not an issue when he was at his heaviest when he fought botha? It's because Lennox knocked him out. His weight only became an issue when he fought a Vitali. 2. So why bring this up when that was his average punch/round. 3 & 4. That doesn't make sense at all specially when you said Vitali's work rate was high for a heavyweight but then slowed down in the mid rounds. I really don't know how you can say he was in shape. Where's number 5? 6. Finally. But his work rate in the first 4 rounds were just slightly above his usual work rate? There was a dramatic change starting in the 5th, and if it's not being out of shape then what is it exactly. 7. He had back to back ko wins. What are you talking about? Tell me he didn't look good against Mike and Rahman. 8. Vitali was winning because he's the one landing the heavier blows that rocked Lewis a few times. Lewis was used to fighting smaller men and bigger guys who aint as skilled and awkward as Vitali. Vitali's work rate dropped, Lewis kept his in the 6th. Now which fighter was out of shape?

lennox by decision, Vitali has one of the hardest chins to ever exist so I don't see him getting TKO'd.

1. His physique? LOL! That's a weak argument, I have answered your question better than that. 2. So why you so surprised about his work rate in the early rounds? 3 & 4. Vitali was more tired. Why can't you accept it? You proved me right. Lewis looked better because Vitali wasn't throwing so many punches like he did in the 1st four rounds. Vitali's work rate dropped, why? Because he was out of shape. Lewis didn't look good until Vitali got tired. No matter how many routes you take it always takes you to the same destination and that is Vitali was the one out of shape. If what you're saying was the case then why did he retire without giving Vitali a rematch? He would've had enough time to train and get in shape before the fight, don't you think? The truth is Vitali had the skills, size, chin and power to beat Lewis. 5. Check my previous answer. How coud you miss number 6? 7. His previous fights? Is this a joke? Did you even think before answering? His previous fights, he koed Tyson and had his revenge on Rahman. I don't believe what I'm reading. 8. Vitali was winning until he got tired due to being out of shape. It was Lennox who kept his work rate until the time of the stoppage not the ukranian. 1. Seriously, look at his physique for the Tyson fight and look at his physique for the Klitschko fight, you'll see a huge difference. 2. I never said I was surprised, I said it was a high workrate for heavyweights. 3 and 4. As lefthooktua said, better shape doesn't translate to having better stamina, Vitali was in magnificent shape as you can see by his physique as well as him coming in at his normal weight for the fight. But they were both very, very tired, Lewis was gasping for air in his corner and pretty much collapsed on his stool before the fight was stopped. 6. As I have said, they were both very tired, maybe Vitali was more tired because of his workrate. 7. I meant look at his previous fights to see how much he had slipped. 8. Vitali was winning because of his high workrate and Lewis being out of shape, he was in great shape as he has said himself, he never said he was out of shape, he said he was in shape and prepared for the fight.

Wlad fans are fucking pathetic

1. Did you see his physique? 2. At least a 65-75 punch a round average. 3 and 4. They were both tired, Lewis looked better in the previous round because Vitali slowed from throwing so many punches, Lewis looked horrible in the corner before they stopped the fight. 5. Look at point 1. 7. I'm not discrediting Vitali, it's a fact that Lewis was 39 and past his best, look at his previous fights. 8. An in shape Vitali couldn't get an old, out of shape Lewis out. Look at the above post. It's unbelievable that you fail to acknowledge that Lewis was gasping for air in his corner.1. His physique? LOL! That's a weak argument, I have answered your question better than that. 2. So why you so surprised about his work rate in the early rounds? 3 & 4. Vitali was more tired. Why can't you accept it? You proved me right. Lewis looked better because Vitali wasn't throwing so many punches like he did in the 1st four rounds. Vitali's work rate dropped, why? Because he was out of shape. Lewis didn't look good until Vitali got tired. No matter how many routes you take it always takes you to the same destination and that is Vitali was the one out of shape. If what you're saying was the case then why did he retire without giving Vitali a rematch? He would've had enough time to train and get in shape before the fight, don't you think? The truth is Vitali had the skills, size, chin and power to beat Lewis. 5. Check my previous answer. How coud you miss number 6? 7. His previous fights? Is this a joke? Did you even think before answering? His previous fights, he koed Tyson and had his revenge on Rahman. I don't believe what I'm reading. 8. Vitali was winning until he got tired due to being out of shape. It was Lennox who kept his work rate until the time of the stoppage not the ukranian.

I just looked at the poll results. Why do so many think Lennox would knockout Vitali ? Vitali has never been knocked out. He has never been knocked down. Its impossible for anyone to do this to Vitali. Vitali's wife Natalia is always near him when he is fighting, and he would never lose that way ! It also says TKO meaning Cuts, regardless Vitali Klitchko has been KO'd before just not in Boxing, he was KO'd by a kick from a british kickboxer. The kickboxer tried his hand at boxing but wasnt all that successful, i'll try and find his name for you.

Vitali TKO2 Lennox

It's these kind of questions that make me wonder if you guys are really boxing fans. Seriously. A washed up Lewis wins by TKO. And we're asking what a prime version does? Wow.

I'm thinking two more uppercuts like the one Lewis landed and that fight is over. Vitali would have been hanging on in the next couple rounds while Lewis calmly ripped his head off

I just looked at the poll results. Why do so many think Lennox would knockout Vitali ? Vitali has never been knocked out. He has never been knocked down. Its impossible for anyone to do this to Vitali. Vitali's wife Natalia is always near him when he is fighting, and he would never lose that way ! There's no way you can tell me Vitali's durability/chin is in the same class as guys like Tua, Chuvalo, McCall etc. Because they fought world class fighters for years and they have proven that they can't be knocked out. Vitali had fought a few hard punchers, but untill he met Lewis he didn't taste legendary punching power and ability to finish off a guy. Lewis had him staggering quite a few times, and if wasn't for Lewis' condition/age I don't think he would have survived. I'm thinking that the people who think Lewis would KO Klitschko pick the Lewis that fought Ray Mercer. Now there's a fight you guys should see.

Surely the poll results show that you are wrong and not that Vitali is some invincible force. Vitali is invincible. The poll results show us human error.