Thanks I couldnt believe that she only lived a few miles from me how lucky is that.
it's a small world brother, next thing you know you'll move in together, and start making babies
Toney vs. Haye would be so much better.
how about tua-haye?
tua's fat too......... and he's slower than toney. fat boy needs a good paycheck before he retires.........
Some people are just prejudiced against fatties.
They were prejudiced against fat Corrie Sanders, and the fatty dominated.
In all seriousness, Toney's done a hell of a job being competitive while being fat against real heavyweights.
I don't think he can be as muscular as Wlad or some of the other guys even if he kept in shape and worked out 4 hours a day.
It's just his body type.
He's too short for Wlad but he's got great skills.
War chubby!
fat guys rule!!!!!!
too bad tua has a body like a greek god.........
GO TUA!!!!!!
WAR PORKCHOP!!!!!!
Come on, be realistic for once. Toney has never been knocked out or even really hurt. No heavyweight has gotten close to knocking him out or again even hurting him. Wlad would win as he is just too big and his reach too much but he would not win by 'murder' as you put it. He would not even knock him down. That is if we're talking about a decent heavy version of Toney. Even a bad one wouldn't get knocked out though.
This would be the first time Toney fought someone as heavyhanded.
I bet his first words when he comes out of his coma will be: "Did he use a sledgehammer?"
Wlad vs Toney would be a replay of Drago/Creed
Wlad by Murder
Come on, be realistic for once. Toney has never been knocked out or even really hurt. No heavyweight has gotten close to knocking him out or again even hurting him. Wlad would win as he is just too big and his reach too much but he would not win by 'murder' as you put it. He would not even knock him down. That is if we're talking about a decent heavy version of Toney. Even a bad one wouldn't get knocked out though.
she is a girl i met in magaluf, she was working as a podium dancer out there. Hopefully will meat up with her when she gets back next month as lives near me. nice girl duffgun, very nice
wake up dude, all former soviet fighters are fat pigs. Toney has at least muscle under his fat.
i dont agree with that statement but i loled pretty hard. nice way to start my morning, green k for you
Haha poor old UltimateBoxa, he seemed like a friendly enough guy if he just left the drama queen antics outside the forum, at least he was passionate about his favourite boxer.
A younger, slickter toney might do the trick but the toney we just saw wont have the stamina to withstand the bigger and, as you say, 10 inches taller wlad. Now that you mentioned chris, whatever happened to that guy? He fighting toney at this stage of their careers might be interesting to the purists but would be a bore to causal fans.
he's shot. he got knocked out his last fight at 175. he just looks too unhealthy at that weight. tough to go from heavy to light heavy. ask roy.
i loved byrd. the only time i rooted against byrd was against tua and ike. at that moment in time i thought the division was ike's and tua's for the taking and how those 2 would dominate and fight 2-3 more wars against each other as champs. boy was i so wrong........
byrd was great. takes a lot of courage to take a .22 and shoot it out with guys with shotguns. byrd was not as boring as people think. if his opponents come at him it's an exciting fight. problem is they try not to because they'd get embarasses missing him and you can't expect byrd to slug , he just doesn't have the power to do that........
Stop making up quotes to suit your racist agenda:tragedy: Toney never said that.Why would he when there have been many white champions?
Racist Toney: "There will never be a white heavyweight champion"
http://www.topix.com/forum/boxing/heavyweight/TNLD2EHPEE01A7NE8
Toney is a more talented fighter than Wlad, way more talented. He's also forty next month, and despite this big win, the seeming rejuivinance, his now under-control weight issues, there are no certainties with James. Winning big is almost the worst thing that can happen to him, plus; he generally doesn't learn from his mistakes. I wouldn't be surprised if he ballooned again and weighs at like 240 plus for his next outing. He should be kept busier; he wants to fight in 3 weeks, a month, Goosen should get it done, even if he's fighting bums. That'd be perfect for him, he used to do that at 160 and 168, after rolling out Nunn he was in with dangerous Reggie Johnson six weeks later.
This Wlad fight, I cant even comprehend it almost... Toney would make him miss a lot, like he does with everyone, and Wlad wouldn't be too difficult to counter. I don't think it'd be one sided at all. But the dimensions are awkward, Wlad could paw and paw, and drop right hands in, even if they dont land they'll maintain range. At HW Toney isn't as good as closing distance like he used to be as he has to trudge forward shifting that considerable bulk. But it's winnable if he fights out of his skin, and negates Wlads natural advantages. Not easy. But JT has defied logic his whole career
i don't either.
hard to outbox someone who's 10 inches taller and has an extreme reach advantage.
especially if you have no power. ask byrd.
it'd have been interesting to see how the toney that beat jirov at cruiser or the 217 lb. toney that koed holyfield would've done back then though.
toney does have his chin and superior skills.A younger, slickter toney might do the trick but the toney we just saw wont have the stamina to withstand the bigger and, as you say, 10 inches taller wlad. Now that you mentioned chris, whatever happened to that guy? He fighting toney at this stage of their careers might be interesting to the purists but would be a bore to causal fans.
As the saying goes, a fighter is only as good as his last fight. I can't see toney beating wlad.
i don't either.
hard to outbox someone who's 10 inches taller and has an extreme reach advantage.
especially if you have no power. ask byrd.
it'd have been interesting to see how the toney that beat jirov at cruiser or the 217 lb. toney that koed holyfield would've done back then though.
toney does have his chin and superior skills.
Stop making up quotes to suit your racist agenda:tragedy: Toney never said that.Why would he when there have been many white champions?
Toney: "There will never be a white heavyweight champion"
Here's the article:
http://www.********boxing.com/news.php?p=6538&more=1
ok.
who is he anyway? if it's the same guy you're talking about. why does he have a self imposed ban?
he just asked me to post this. i said sure why not.
people think i hate wlad because of the anti-wlad/anti-haye/anti-tua nonsense from over the weekend that's why.
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=191465