Looks like Floyd was right

when floyd fights an unknown and pulls in 400+ and doesnt get booed in his hometown, let me know. :lol1: let me know too!

when floyd fights an unknown and pulls in 400+ and doesnt get booed in his hometown, let me know.

:Flush: I have a feeling something bad is going to happen

If you agree that he has drawing Power, Who is he drawing to the fights...? who is paying for his fights..? Floyd Mayweather is the most "Notorious" fighter in the game... He is without a doubt the most “Famous”His "Fame" is second to only Oscar among Active Fighters He is the most "Revered" boxer in the game... Floyd will never be the most Popular (loved) fighter right now because he has chosen to take the bad guy road... it doesn't meaned he isn't popular but he is more Notorious right now rather than Popular. And the Common denominator between a fighter who's draw steams from Popularity or Being Notorious. Is that They have People Supporting them. in the same way. Money and Attendance... And Mayweather Supporters bring Both. By your Logic Ali didn't have a fan base early in his career either.. because he was not beloved, instead he was revered.. (Ali didnt become beloved until he dodge the war) remember that. Some of the most "Famous and successful" people history has ever known Have been more "Notorious" than Popular... or Have been "Notorious" before they became "Popular" Al Capone 2pac Biggie Ali Malcolm X Kobe Bryant Terrell Owens Deion Sanders Britney Spears Charles Barkley Scarface (Tony Montana) The list goes on.... Stop it with the multi-font-color coded crap. What is this, pre-school? Damn. Gives me a fucking headache. :grumpy: Apart from that, stop slobbering over Floyd's knob. It's disgusting. :slap:

Yet, nobody in the boxing world is buying. Odd. Are u telling me that nobody will buy Cotto/Floyd? Dumdominicano.

Yet, nobody in the boxing world is buying. Odd. I find that odd too for a fight that the world are so eager to see!!! Ask yourself this: 1) if this fight was mayweather-margarito, would it be sold out? 2) if this fight was mayweather-cotto, would it be sold out? Enough said. (1) Yes (2) Hell yes.

Oscar Fought Floyd to Enhance his Legacy And Get a Lucrative Payday SRL fought Hagler to Enhance his legacy And Get a Lucrative Payday Ricky Hatton fought to Floyd to Enhance his Legacy And Get a Lucrative Payday Oscar fought Tito to Enhance his Legacy And Get a Lucrative Payday SRL fought Hearns to Enhance his Legacy And Get a Lucrative Payday This are very good points, well presented and well said but if Cotto beats Margarito then i for one would think he has reached the stage where IF he fights Mayweather then he would ADD to Mayweather's legacy NOT financially. But if he beats Margarito and a williams that beats Pavlik then he would ADD/enhance Mayweather's legacy and financially.

:slap: you sound so silly arguing for lil RETIRED fLOYD.. he's retired, there is no, "making them wait", there is, "I dont wanna get my first L..." :wave: when did u get unbanned..!

Once again, your off. Floyd was seen as small Frye when Oscar was in his prime. It doenst help that they were about 3 weight-classes apart. The guys u mentioned above were only 1 weight-class apart. Those fights were/are much easier to make...idiot. Ur Ignorant and have double standards which are obvious., U lack common sense... From a Legacy and Business Stand Point.. How does Margarito Enhance Floyd Status even Higher than what it is now? How does Paul Williams Enhance Floyd Status even Higher what it is now? How Does Miguel Cotto Enhance Floyd Status even Higher what it is now? All those Fighters are "Small Frye's" compared to Mayweather Floyd is already Greatest of His Generation What is the point of fighting Non-Status Enhancing Fights, If they dont bring you A Lucrative Payday or If he cant become the greatest fighter ever fighting these guys...?? He was already the P4P BEST since 2005 He was already the undisputed Lineal Champion He was already recognized around the world the best boxer alive He was already accomplish what no other fighter in history has never done The only thing he has left to accomplish is to be call the The Greatest of All Time If he cant accomplish the status of Greatest Fighter Ever Fighting Guys Like Margarito at this point of his career, or Make 20-30 million like he did against Hatton.. Why fight these guys, if they dont Enhance his legacy past what it already is... It is obvious people will never give him that status so why continue fighting for something he already has... And that is the recognition as the best boxer alive and P4P best.... Oscar Fought Floyd to Enhance his Legacy And Get a Lucrative Payday SRL fought Hagler to Enhance his legacy And Get a Lucrative Payday Ricky Hatton fought to Floyd to Enhance his Legacy And Get a Lucrative Payday Oscar fought Tito to Enhance his Legacy And Get a Lucrative Payday SRL fought Hearns to Enhance his Legacy And Get a Lucrative Payday So why should Floyd listen to guys like Margarito,Williams,Cotto calling him out, if they dont Enhance his Legacy And Get him Lucrative Payday ..? Like Floyd did for Oscar

So BY your Logic is that Because Mayweather wasnt in De La Hoya Weight Class... That Mayweather calling him out doesnt Count...:slap: So I guess Pavlik calling Out Calzaghe doesnt Count when he has Abramham in his division..? So I guess Pacquaio Calling Out Hatton doesnt count when he has prime lightweights in his division...? So I guess Roy Jones calling out John Ruiz didnt count either..? Or De La Hoya calling out Bernard Hopkins..? or Ricky Hatton calling out Mayweather...!! HOW THE STUPID THE FUCK ARE YOU..? LEARN SOME BASIC COMMON SENSE... Once again, your off. Floyd was seen as small Frye when Oscar was in his prime. It doenst help that they were about 3 weight-classes apart. The guys u mentioned above were only 1 weight-class apart. Those fights were/are much easier to make...idiot.

Fan of screaming black men. Do u realize that when Floyd was first interested in a fight with Oscar, they were about 3 weight-classes apart, and Floyd had yet to even headline a ppv. Cotto and Floyd are both in the same weight-class, both are undefeated and in thier primes, both have headlined ppv's, and this is a fight that the entire boxing world is calling for. Your comparison of Oscar making Floyd wait, to that of Floyd making Cotto wait is waaaay off! So BY your Logic is that Because Mayweather wasnt in De La Hoya Weight Class... That Mayweather calling him out doesnt Count...:slap: So I guess Pavlik calling Out Calzaghe doesnt Count when he has Abramham in his division..? So I guess Pacquaio Calling Out Hatton doesnt count when he has prime lightweights in his division...? So I guess Roy Jones calling out John Ruiz didnt count either..? Or De La Hoya calling out Bernard Hopkins..? or Ricky Hatton calling out Mayweather...!! HOW THE STUPID THE FUCK ARE YOU..? LEARN SOME BASIC COMMON SENSE...

Ok, so Floyd is a huge draw. So if he fights Cotto it will sell 500,000K at the very minimum. If that's not enough, well too bad, there is no other possible opponent for floyd so he should stay retired if that's all he cares about. ODH is the only name bigger then floyd, that's a no go. Ricky hatton rematch would do well. Maybe pacquiao? Thats it. There simply are not any big names in boxing anymore, other then the names i just mentioned and maybe one or two other guys. Unless I'm wrong, Floyd is retired and hasn't shown any interest in coming back. You all are not only speculating but almost demanding and taking orders on whom a retired fighter should fight. Like you I would've loved to see him take out Cotto before he left. But, Floyd knows the public NEVER lets you out of the game when you're on top. After Cotto there would be someone else the public would demand. When has a retired boxer received so much attention on a boxing forum?

The Stipulations Game From Floyd to Cotto.. Some of the same arguments used against Cotto vs. Floyd were being used against Floyd vs. Oscar Some Floyd Fans are just using the same standard and credible stipulations Place on Floyd...to fight Oscar.... On Cotto vs. Floyd .. That's just how it goes... Us Floyd fans had to wait 6 years for Floyd to Fight Oscar... So how you think we felt about that.... But we didnt bitch and complain as bad as you cotto fans are doing... We just set back as we watch Our fighter stack up victories and boost his market appeal and boxing prestige so he could get a fight with Oscar... We Waited 6 years for the fight to happen.... and when it happen we were vindicated....and we rubbed it in Oscar Fans Faces.... Soo.....now you Cotto fans know how it feels to be fan of a fighter when credible stipulations and standards are put on your fighter as to why he might not fight another fighter THAT YOU WANT HIM TO FIGHT ....EVEN AFTER you think YOUR FIGHTER HAS PROVEN THAT HE SHOULD FIGHT THE OTHER FIGHTER.... and it makes you mad when those arguments are credible why the fight might not happen or why it isnt happening... Welcome to THE CLUB...!!! IRONY So basically it is ok for Oscar to make Floyd meet all his stipulations and standards... which amounted in Floyd waiting for 6 years....For Oscar to fight Floyd and it is ok that SRL made Hagler Wait until he meet all his stipulations and standards... which amounted in Hagler waiting for 7 years For the SRL vs. Hagler fight to happen But it is not ok for Floyd to make Cotto meet all his stipulations and standards... before the Floyd vs. Cotto fight can happen..!! Double Standard once again.... But here is the common factor in any those situations, 1. the fight eventually happen 2. When the fight happen it was the biggest thing in Boxing....!!! So why Cant Floyd follow a successful Format...!! if it works....???? I not saying Have cotto wait 7 years...or 6 years in Floyd case.... But why not let Cotto wait, and let the fight Build up to what it should be...!!! Obviously this format works...!!! Fan of screaming black men. Do u realize that when Floyd was first interested in a fight with Oscar, they were about 3 weight-classes apart, and Floyd had yet to even headline a ppv. Cotto and Floyd are both in the same weight-class, both are undefeated and in thier primes, both have headlined ppv's, and this is a fight that the entire boxing world is calling for. Your comparison of Oscar making Floyd wait, to that of Floyd making Cotto wait is waaaay off!

I think Floyd is the only champion in recent times to use the excuse of an opponent not doing enough ppv numbers in order not to fight them. I can understand if he wants to use that as a tool to negotiate money, but to use it as an excuse to avoid the fight altogether? Cmon! The Stipulations Game From Floyd to Cotto.. Some of the same arguments used against Cotto vs. Floyd were being used against Floyd vs. Oscar Some Floyd Fans are just using the same standard and credible stipulations Place on Floyd...to fight Oscar.... On Cotto vs. Floyd .. That's just how it goes... Us Floyd fans had to wait 6 years for Floyd to Fight Oscar... So how you think we felt about that.... But we didnt bitch and complain as bad as you cotto fans are doing... We just set back as we watch Our fighter stack up victories and boost his market appeal and boxing prestige so he could get a fight with Oscar... We Waited 6 years for the fight to happen.... and when it happen we were vindicated....and we rubbed it in Oscar Fans Faces.... Soo.....now you Cotto fans know how it feels to be fan of a fighter when credible stipulations and standards are put on your fighter as to why he might not fight another fighter THAT YOU WANT HIM TO FIGHT ....EVEN AFTER you think YOUR FIGHTER HAS PROVEN THAT HE SHOULD FIGHT THE OTHER FIGHTER.... and it makes you mad when those arguments are credible why the fight might not happen or why it isnt happening... Welcome to THE CLUB...!!! IRONY So basically it is ok for Oscar to make Floyd meet all his stipulations and standards... which amounted in Floyd waiting for 6 years....For Oscar to fight Floyd and it is ok that SRL made Hagler Wait until he meet all his stipulations and standards... which amounted in Hagler waiting for 7 years For the SRL vs. Hagler fight to happen But it is not ok for Floyd to make Cotto meet all his stipulations and standards... before the Floyd vs. Cotto fight can happen..!! Double Standard once again.... But here is the common factor in any those situations, 1. the fight eventually happen 2. When the fight happen it was the biggest thing in Boxing....!!! So why Cant Floyd follow a successful Format...!! if it works....???? I not saying Have cotto wait 7 years...or 6 years in Floyd case.... But why not let Cotto wait, and let the fight Build up to what it should be...!!! Obviously this format works...!!!

If Cotto wins, he deserves a shot. End of story.

The Stipulations Game From Floyd to Cotto.. Some of the same arguments used against Cotto vs. Floyd were being used against Floyd vs. Oscar Some Floyd Fans are just using the same standard and credible stipulations Place on Floyd...to fight Oscar.... On Cotto vs. Floyd .. That's just how it goes... Us Floyd fans had to wait 6 years for Floyd to Fight Oscar... So how you think we felt about that.... But we didnt bitch and complain as bad as you cotto fans are doing... We just set back as we watch Our fighter stack up victories and boost his market appeal and boxing prestige so he could get a fight with Oscar... We Waited 6 years for the fight to happen.... and when it happen we were vindicated....and we rubbed it in Oscar Fans Faces.... Soo.....now you Cotto fans know how it feels to be fan of a fighter when credible stipulations and standards are put on your fighter as to why he might not fight another fighter THAT YOU WANT HIM TO FIGHT ....EVEN AFTER you think YOUR FIGHTER HAS PROVEN THAT HE SHOULD FIGHT THE OTHER FIGHTER.... and it makes you mad when those arguments are credible why the fight might not happen or why it isnt happening... Welcome to THE CLUB...!!! Look at HBO making the argument that Floyd isnt a big enough star to fight Oscar..!!! 3:20-on WHAT I DONT GET IS WHY DIDNT THEY PUSH THE FLOYD VS. OSCAR FIGHT LIKE THEY ARE TRYING TO PUSH THE COTTO VS FLOYD FIGHT..... WHAT KIND OF DOUBLE STANDARD IS THAT......!!!!! :slap: @ Larry Merchant and STEWARD IRONY So basically it is ok for Oscar to make Floyd meet all his stipulations and standards... which amounted in Floyd waiting for 6 years....For Oscar to fight Floyd and it is ok that SRL made Hagler Wait until he meet all his stipulations and standards... which amounted in Hagler waiting for 7 years For the SRL vs. Hagler fight to happen But it is not ok for Floyd to make Cotto meet all his stipulations and standards...:thinking: before the Floyd vs. Cotto fight can happen..!! Double Standard once again....:nonono: But here is the common factor in any those situations, 1. the fight eventually happen 2. When the fight happen it was the biggest thing in Boxing....!!! So why Cant Floyd follow a successful Format...!! if it works....???? I not saying Have cotto wait 7 years...or 6 years in Floyd case.... But why not let Cotto wait, and let the fight Build up to what it should be...!!! Obviously this format works...!!! Fan of screaming black men. Do u realize that when Floyd was first interested in a fight with Oscar, they were about 3 weight-classes apart, and Floyd had yet to even headline a ppv. Cotto and Floyd are both in the same weight-class, both are undefeated and in thier primes, both have headlined ppv's, and this is a fight that the entire boxing world is calling for. Your comparison of Oscar making Floyd wait, to that of Floyd making Cotto wait is waaaay off!

Come on now... If the fight was on the east coast you could'nt offer enough seats to sell. This will be Cotto's opportunity to show the west coast what he is all about. Of course the economy has a little bit to do with the ticket sales but over all Cotto understands now is his opportunity to force Floyd out of retirement. He wants to fight Floyd, believe me. Not only for the big pay check but because he want's to prove he truly is the best welterweight out there. He is a true fighter. After this fight with Margarito the boxing fans all over the world will be all over Floyd to come back. Why? because people want to see Floyd's big mouth getting shut. Shut with punches in the ring and they will know Cotto is the one who can do it.

Deevel you must have for got that we had this discussion already in which I went into detailed about this issue.. PLEASE READ HERE FOR THE FAN BASE DEFINITION: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3335332&highlight=dictionary#post3335332 PLEASE READ HERE FOR THE FAN BASE DEFINITION: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3335332&highlight=dictionary#post3335332 PLEASE READ HERE FOR THE FAN BASE DEFINITION: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3335332&highlight=dictionary#post3335332 PLEASE READ HERE FOR THE FAN BASE DEFINITION: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3335332&highlight=dictionary#post3335332 Fan A fan, aficionado or supporter is someone who has an intense, occasionally overwhelming liking of a sporting club, person, group of persons, company, product, work of art, idea, or trend. Fans of a particular thing constitute its fanbase or fandom. They may start a fan club, hold fan conventions, create fanzines, write fan mail, or engage in similar activities Since when do people have an overwhelming like for Floyd? Its actually the exact opposite. The majority of boxingfans cant stand him.

I think Floyd is the only champion in recent times to use the excuse of an opponent not doing enough ppv numbers in order not to fight them. I can understand if he wants to use that as a tool to negotiate money, but to use it as an excuse to avoid the fight altogether? Cmon! The Stipulations Game From Floyd to Cotto.. Some of the same arguments used against Cotto vs. Floyd were being used against Floyd vs. Oscar Some Floyd Fans are just using the same standard and credible stipulations Place on Floyd...to fight Oscar.... On Cotto vs. Floyd .. That's just how it goes... Us Floyd fans had to wait 6 years for Floyd to Fight Oscar... So how you think we felt about that.... But we didnt bitch and complain as bad as you cotto fans are doing... We just set back as we watch Our fighter stack up victories and boost his market appeal and boxing prestige so he could get a fight with Oscar... We Waited 6 years for the fight to happen.... and when it happen we were vindicated....and we rubbed it in Oscar Fans Faces.... Soo.....now you Cotto fans know how it feels to be fan of a fighter when credible stipulations and standards are put on your fighter as to why he might not fight another fighter THAT YOU WANT HIM TO FIGHT ....EVEN AFTER you think YOUR FIGHTER HAS PROVEN THAT HE SHOULD FIGHT THE OTHER FIGHTER.... and it makes you mad when those arguments are credible why the fight might not happen or why it isnt happening... Welcome to THE CLUB...!!! Look at HBO making the argument that Floyd isnt a big enough star to fight Oscar..!!! 3:20-on WHAT I DONT GET IS WHY DIDNT THEY PUSH THE FLOYD VS. OSCAR FIGHT LIKE THEY ARE TRYING TO PUSH THE COTTO VS FLOYD FIGHT..... WHAT KIND OF DOUBLE STANDARD IS THAT......!!!!! :slap: @ Larry Merchant and STEWARD IRONY So basically it is ok for Oscar to make Floyd meet all his stipulations and standards... which amounted in Floyd waiting for 6 years....For Oscar to fight Floyd and it is ok that SRL made Hagler Wait until he meet all his stipulations and standards... which amounted in Hagler waiting for 7 years For the SRL vs. Hagler fight to happen But it is not ok for Floyd to make Cotto meet all his stipulations and standards...:thinking: before the Floyd vs. Cotto fight can happen..!! Double Standard once again....:nonono: But here is the common factor in any those situations, 1. the fight eventually happen 2. When the fight happen it was the biggest thing in Boxing....!!! So why Cant Floyd follow a successful Format...!! if it works....???? I not saying Have cotto wait 7 years...or 6 years in Floyd case.... But why not let Cotto wait, and let the fight Build up to what it should be...!!! Obviously this format works...!!!

People paying to see him fight are a combination of fans, people who want to witness him lose first hand, boxing fans (not neccessarily Floyd fans), Fans of Floyd's opponents, etc. Just because people tune in and pay to see him fight, doesnt mean they are particularly fans of his. Deevel you must have for got that we had this discussion already in which I went into detailed about this issue.. PLEASE READ HERE FOR THE FAN BASE DEFINITION: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3335332&highlight=dictionary#post3335332 PLEASE READ HERE FOR THE FAN BASE DEFINITION: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3335332&highlight=dictionary#post3335332 PLEASE READ HERE FOR THE FAN BASE DEFINITION: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3335332&highlight=dictionary#post3335332 PLEASE READ HERE FOR THE FAN BASE DEFINITION: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3335332&highlight=dictionary#post3335332