There are a lot of HWs though that Haye has NO shot at beating. Tough defensive guys like Thompson and more especially Chagaev would have a field day with him.
Haye's people surely understand this and will avoid all challenges other than Wlad.
IF Haye did beat Wlad and won his belts, he'd be in a position were:
* He can't make the weight for Cruiserweight anymore so he can't run back there after Wlad.
* He can't really retire because he's still fairly young and is in the prime of his career.
* Haye would get himself killed if he went to the MMA, i don't believe that's true to be honest.
So he's pretty much fucked then! He'll have to stick around and take on the big guys.
His made his bed now, his got to sleep in it.
People saying Haye's record ='s Wlad's are completely dilusional...
Thompson
Ibrigimov
Austin
Brock
Byrd
Peter
McCline
Mercer
Botha
Haye is a domestic fighter. You brits need to wake up.
haye aint bout the money i guaratee dat man. he jus wants to be the number 1 heavyweight by beating wlad. simple as and u ppl think its money haha idiots
There are a lot of HWs though that Haye has NO shot at beating. Tough defensive guys like Thompson and more especially Chagaev would have a field day with him.
Haye's people surely understand this and will avoid all challenges other than Wlad.
I think Chagaev would KO both Haye and Klitschko. He is the most fundamentally gifted and talented out of them all. Just don't understand what is going on with him and his various illnesses.
Thompson??? I think Danny Williams could beat him. He doesn't much like fighting.
There are a lot of HWs though that Haye has NO shot at beating. Tough defensive guys like Thompson and more especially Chagaev would have a field day with him.
Haye's people surely understand this and will avoid all challenges other than Wlad.
David Haye has been a KO waiting to happen since day one when he fought Tony Booth in front of an old man and his dog way back in deepest darkest London.
His chin is awful to be brutally honest and his defense is too ''Hamed'' for my liking but he goes in the ring and lets it all out and start KOing bucks left right and centre, yes they are Cruiserweights but the some of the KO's were brutal and for a guy who was weight drained his speed was out of this world. Haye isn't a hyped fighter, he doesn't deserve that tag. The fella can box believe it or not, he just likes to try and finish the show early.
He has a big heart too, losing to a 40 year old when you're the young pretender is a kick to the bollox some fighters wouldn't come back from but Haye got back up, sorted his stamina out(yes it has improved) his defense if only a little(keeps his left hand too low) The chin will always be the stumbling block for Haye as far as fighting at HW is concerned. A chin is for life, but if Haye's serious about taking on the big HW's sorely Haye and his trainer Adam Booth will be working on that defense and setting up a plan on how to stop these big guys? He can't be that much of a mug to step into a ring with a HW and keep that left hand low?
As for the money. Haye went to Mormecks back yard, got paid peanuts and KO'd him. The #1 Crusierwieght Haye had to settle for the arse end of the deal when he fought Enzo Macc in front of his own fans in London. Haye has got enough money to survive.
Haye wants glory more then money, he loves the lime light and being center of attention. He called out Wlad because he wants to beat the best like he did at Cruiserweight and he(and i) think hes got the tools(speed and power) to cause Wlad problems.
Haye went nose to nose with Wlad in London and said ''Lets get it on!'' while at the same time Aleksandr Povetkin sent a double decker bus to the outside of the arena with a call out message on the side of the bus for no one to see.
Haye wants to fight the best and calls out the best face to face, he should be respected for that not slagged off. He's the spark the HW division needs right now, because lets be honest a lot of people aren't interested?
Haye said himself two fights then Wlad! We all heard that, so why are we ignoring that now with all this speculation and digging Haye out: ''Haye hasn't fought a legitimate Heavyweight'' No Shit! he's trying to get himself in the right condition first before his first fight at HW(i don't count that win over tomato can Boinin?)
Haye losing and going back down to Cruiserweight isn't an option available to him anymore, he's currently walking round at 233 so even if Haye gets KO'd by Wlad he will never be able to make the limit for Cruiserweight anymore.
I know of David Haye personally and know that it's not all about the money, some of it is i ain't going to lie, but just trust me on this. A fight with Wlad isn't Haye looking for just a big payday, he wants Heavyweight glory badly. Just trust me on that.
He talks big and he knows what he wants and he knows how to get it. Haye knows what he's getting into the ring with(Wlad) he will put it all at thier and see if he can land that big punch on Wlads chin knowing that if Wlads finds his first then it's game over. That's courage not bullshit hype! but some of you only known Haye since Mormeck so you haven't seen the work he has put in to make himself a better fighter.
Haye will give it his best shot and this is a promise to ya, i'll still be here if Wlad knocks him out and i'll happily take all the shit from it.
Haye has a shot of beating Wlad with his speed and power. If that happens you Wlad fans better be here to fess up.
....Nice post Chunk and I figured you realized that Haye is in jeopardy with every tough fight he takes at heavy. That's why I think he's really only truthfully angling for Wlad. He wants his one big shot before it all comes crashing down. If he somehow beats Wlad it was worth it regardless of what he does after that.
What did Wlads resume look like at 22 fights? Atleast people want to watch Haye fight, even if he is hype I'd rather watch him beat up Maskaev than watch Wlad protect the paper mache hanging off of his chin for 12 rounds.
You should look at the age, not the number of fights.
Wlad had a title at a younger age than Haye was when he reached the top amateur ranks.
It does not matter who he beat, Haye will and I mean WILL get whipped by Wlad.
Very bad career choise for Haye if he wants to become a champ, unless, maybe he wants to become a martyr.
What did Wlads resume look like at 22 fights? Atleast people want to watch Haye fight, even if he is hype I'd rather watch him beat up Maskaev than watch Wlad protect the paper mache hanging off of his chin for 12 rounds.
It does not matter who he beat, Haye will and I mean WILL get whipped by Wlad.
Very bad career choise for Haye if he wants to become a champ, unless, maybe he wants to become a martyr.
David Haye has been a KO waiting to happen since day one when he fought Tony Booth in front of an old man and his dog way back in deepest darkest London.
His chin is awful to be brutally honest and his defense is too ''Hamed'' for my liking but he goes in the ring and lets it all out and start KOing bucks left right and centre, yes they are Cruiserweights but the some of the KO's were brutal and for a guy who was weight drained his speed was out of this world. Haye isn't a hyped fighter, he doesn't deserve that tag. The fella can box believe it or not, he just likes to try and finish the show early.
He has a big heart too, losing to a 40 year old when you're the young pretender is a kick to the bollox some fighters wouldn't come back from but Haye got back up, sorted his stamina out(yes it has improved) his defense if only a little(keeps his left hand too low) The chin will always be the stumbling block for Haye as far as fighting at HW is concerned. A chin is for life, but if Haye's serious about taking on the big HW's sorely Haye and his trainer Adam Booth will be working on that defense and setting up a plan on how to stop these big guys? He can't be that much of a mug to step into a ring with a HW and keep that left hand low?
As for the money. Haye went to Mormecks back yard, got paid peanuts and KO'd him. The #1 Crusierwieght Haye had to settle for the arse end of the deal when he fought Enzo Macc in front of his own fans in London. Haye has got enough money to survive.
Haye wants glory more then money, he loves the lime light and being center of attention. He called out Wlad because he wants to beat the best like he did at Cruiserweight and he(and i) think hes got the tools(speed and power) to cause Wlad problems.
Haye went nose to nose with Wlad in London and said ''Lets get it on!'' while at the same time Aleksandr Povetkin sent a double decker bus to the outside of the arena with a call out message on the side of the bus for no one to see.
Haye wants to fight the best and calls out the best face to face, he should be respected for that not slagged off. He's the spark the HW division needs right now, because lets be honest a lot of people aren't interested?
Haye said himself two fights then Wlad! We all heard that, so why are we ignoring that now with all this speculation and digging Haye out: ''Haye hasn't fought a legitimate Heavyweight'' No Shit! he's trying to get himself in the right condition first before his first fight at HW(i don't count that win over tomato can Boinin?)
Haye losing and going back down to Cruiserweight isn't an option available to him anymore, he's currently walking round at 233 so even if Haye gets KO'd by Wlad he will never be able to make the limit for Cruiserweight anymore.
I know of David Haye personally and know that it's not all about the money, some of it is i ain't going to lie, but just trust me on this. A fight with Wlad isn't Haye looking for just a big payday, he wants Heavyweight glory badly. Just trust me on that.
He talks big and he knows what he wants and he knows how to get it. Haye knows what he's getting into the ring with(Wlad) he will put it all at thier and see if he can land that big punch on Wlads chin knowing that if Wlads finds his first then it's game over. That's courage not bullshit hype! but some of you only known Haye since Mormeck so you haven't seen the work he has put in to make himself a better fighter.
Haye will give it his best shot and this is a promise to ya, i'll still be here if Wlad knocks him out and i'll happily take all the shit from it.
Haye has a shot of beating Wlad with his speed and power. If that happens you Wlad fans better be here to fess up.
Can i have your autograph Mr Haye?
Haye beat Mormeck No1 cruiserweight in the world 2 times champ and the ring champ. I have seen 6 Mormeck fights and the guy was very good not the best defense but he was a very good pressure fighter had good upper body movement and good power in both hands he is one of the most underrated fighters of the past few years although he lacked a bit of stamina. He was a more skilled pressure fighter than Sam Peter imo.
Mormeck is a little harmless 5,10 frenchy...mormeck was never any good and he was softened up, old and past his prime when Haye beat him....He still managed to knock down Hypejob Haye and hurt him though
Haye's resume is very weak.
such bullshit of Wlad fans saying he will KO Haye easily.
If he KO's him it will be because the big lad shat has pants and was forced to fight or get smashed up, he'll probably need a lie down and some gas and air himself afterwards after a retrospective panic attack.
Wlad will KO Haye pretty easily, the only thing Wlad fans ask is Haye STFU and fight a HW contender or two already so after Wlad is done with Povetkin he can KO Haye some time next year. If Peter beats Vitali or Vitali gets injured then Wlad should try to unify before fighting Haye though.
Haye's resume is not much better than Tye Fields'. I wonder why Tye isn't asking for a title shot. :boxing: Haye has fought 20 clubfighters, one 35 year old inactive contender and one glass jawed journeyman. Despite that weak competition, he managed to get dropped by 3 different guys. One 40 year old dropped him and stopped him. But he's going to KO the best HW in the world because Wlad has a "glass" jaw. And that jaw is so glass because he kicked the hell out of Puritty for 10 rounds till he couldn't lift his gloves, fell from exhaustion while backing away from a punch, got brutally headbutting in the jaw twice by Sanders leading to some knockdowns and got thrown down by the ref after the bell in a fight where he had been kicking the hell out of Brewster and even though he beat the count, was stopped in between rounds.
Haye is not a southpaw, Wlad would make him look silly. If a glancing shot from a current SMW floored Haye, imagine what a Wlad jab would do to him.
It's cool he's chatty with ppl and stuff, and definitely feel you on the whole lost sense of community in much of London, used to the commute to Kings X, Camden and Islington, christ some folk are moody.
Respectable Haye took less money then he'd have deserved on some fights, what the sport needs. Froch seems like that aswell to be honest so it's not all bad. To be fair they seem to have more passion for carrying on in the sport no matter, than Hatton or Calzaghe.
Haye was fairly underrated before the Mac fight in hindsight. He's kind of been in a weird place in going upto HW, then back down to unify CW, now back up again. He kinda exploded into the media after that fight and now is on a slow ladder up again so still isn't actually talked of much. He's gona be around and mixing it up no matter what for a few years to come which is cool.
That's one of the biggest problems in this sport is 'Money'.
Fighters who want a shot at the title need to bring money to the table in order to get the champ interested.
Hatton has turned into a 'Money hore' and won't give any unknowns or lesser names a shot, when it looks like a potentially dangerous opponent Ricky says ''He's only looking to land a big payday.'' Same thing with Calzaghe, Froch rings him up and asks him for a shot and Calzaghe says ''You're only looking for a payday'' when IMO Froch wasn't and just wants a shot at the titles.
Oh well.
this guys obsessed he needs to get a hobbie or a job or sommit..
You realise this is a boxing forum right?
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