Wladimir v some oldtimers
Wlad v Lennox Lewis of today
Wlad v a 45 year old George Foreman
Wlad v Toney
i think the Foreman one is interesting cause Wlad does not like being preassured IMO and Foreman is like a mummy who just keeps coming and he is difficult to hurt and with Wlads supsect stamina and lack of heart u never know he looked tired against Thompson and he had hardly done anything
Lewis would be interesting one aswell
People on here often say prime tyson would have a tough fight against wlad but i dont think so, 1985 mike tysons punch out version of tyson would weave under the jab and throw something vicious to the body or the head, unless wlad pulled a quick tillis, tyson would end that fight within 3, however any post 1991 tyson would likely lose just based on his inability to give a fuck and train properly and use head movement.
u are spot on here remember him slipping inside Carl Williams jab and then unloading a huge left hook on his chin ,great shot
the old Tyson lost his foot speed IMO he looked completely shot against Lewis and u could see that after 1 minute of the fight he just did not have the speed of foot to shuffle foward quickly and close the range
People on here often say prime tyson would have a tough fight against wlad but i dont think so, 1985 mike tysons punch out version of tyson would weave under the jab and throw something vicious to the body or the head, unless wlad pulled a quick tillis, tyson would end that fight within 3, however any post 1991 tyson would likely lose just based on his inability to give a fuck and train properly and use head movement.
Hes right though, if you look at his fights with frazier, norton and ali, he didint pace himself, he was content on just battering the fuck out of you until you gave into his monsterous power, if that didint happen, well, see Ali. As he got older he began to think more which led to him pacing his workrate alot better with more percise shots.
Technically and tactically better I can live with, but not just better.
Comeback foreman wasn't actually that good, whereas prime Foreman was.
Truthfully against Foreman, all hed have to do is close in on him, because in all honesty, Wlad looks like he panics if youre going to bring the fight to him, seriously, he NEVER fights on the inside, if Foreman got past the jab and forced a fight, he might actually stop him.
I dont see toney getting past wlads jab/size to be honest.
In reality thats wlads best asset, being big and having a jab, because frankly keeping people off him is whats been winning him fights, but ANYONE who can force a fight inside will have him, its just hard to do because hes fucking huge.
I agree with all this.
The guy that knocks him out again will have to take chances.
No he wasn't. That is ludicrous.
Hes right though, if you look at his fights with frazier, norton and ali, he didint pace himself, he was content on just battering the fuck out of you until you gave into his monsterous power, if that didint happen, well, see Ali. As he got older he began to think more which led to him pacing his workrate alot better with more percise shots.
The 45 year old Foreman of the 90's was actually better than the prime George. Peak Foreman was wild and didn't pace himself as much as the older Foreman and he also didn't throw as straight of punches. The older Foreman was far more accurate, percise set up his power shot behind his left jab and was a better finsher.
he was deffo technically better i agree
The 45 year old Foreman of the 90's was actually better than the prime George. Peak Foreman was wild and didn't pace himself as much as the older Foreman and he also didn't throw as straight of punches. The older Foreman was far more accurate, percise set up his power shot behind his left jab and was a better finsher.
No he wasn't. That is ludicrous.
Wladimir v some oldtimers
Wlad v Lennox Lewis of today
Wlad v a 45 year old George Foreman
Wlad v Toney
i think the Foreman one is interesting cause Wlad does not like being preassured IMO and Foreman is like a mummy who just keeps coming and he is difficult to hurt and with Wlads supsect stamina and lack of heart u never know he looked tired against Thompson and he had hardly done anything
Lewis would be interesting one aswell
Truthfully against Foreman, all hed have to do is close in on him, because in all honesty, Wlad looks like he panics if youre going to bring the fight to him, seriously, he NEVER fights on the inside, if Foreman got past the jab and forced a fight, he might actually stop him.
I dont see toney getting past wlads jab/size to be honest.
In reality thats wlads best asset, being big and having a jab, because frankly keeping people off him is whats been winning him fights, but ANYONE who can force a fight inside will have him, its just hard to do because hes fucking huge.
45 year old Foreman would have beaten Lennox Lewis now?
The 45 year old Foreman of the 90's was actually better than the prime George. Peak Foreman was wild and didn't pace himself as much as the older Foreman and he also didn't throw as straight of punches. The older Foreman was far more accurate, percise set up his power shot behind his left jab and was a better finsher.
You could make a case for Klitschko being the hardest and most accurate puncher that Foreman would have faced , but i agree about the pressure getting to Wladimir and Foreman stopping him. Foreman's workrate would just be too much and he would take Klitschko out of his game.
yeah i agree i think Wlad would have to put Foreman away early
i feel exactly the same Hoylfield was expending a helluva a lot of energy to stay away from Georges power i cant see Wlad having the fitness to keep moving away from Foreman he looked like he was blowing against Thompson
You could make a case for Klitschko being the hardest and most accurate puncher that Foreman would have faced, but i agree about the pressure getting to Wladimir and Foreman stopping him. Foreman's workrate would just be too much and he would take Klitschko out of his game.
Vladimir would beat everyone, because there has never been a boxer like him. If you fight Vladimir, you will lose.
Agreed thats why he stacks up so favourably against some of the ATG HW of yester year lol
If Vladimir was tired then why did he win ? Why did he knock out his opponent ?
sorry Boxers are incapable of knocking somebody out when they are tired WTF
anyone with a brain who is unbiased could see Wlad was tireing
i feel exactly the same Hoylfield was expending a helluva a lot of energy to stay away from Georges power i cant see Wlad having the fitness to keep moving away from Foreman he looked like he was blowing against Thompson
If Vladimir was tired then why did he win ? Why did he knock out his opponent ?