There have been studies of jkd disciples' who weighed an average of 150lbs whose punches were measured to have the same amount of force as the average pro heavyweight boxer. So imagine the same study on bruce lee himself
Bruce Lee was strong for his size, but if a punch from a 220 lb Heavyweight even someone as sloppy as Peter landed on his chin it night night Lee. It's like matching up someone like Pacquaio against Tyson.
haha i gues you haven't seen the vid or ur just in denial cause bruce lee is ur child hood idol
There have been studies of jkd disciples' who weighed an average of 150lbs whose punches were measured to have the same amount of force as the average pro heavyweight boxer. So imagine the same study on bruce lee himself
Bruce Lee was an actor he would get KO'd and quickly. He was a great conditioner and had amazing strength feats but his intangibles would be his downfall. Some people make stupid claims like Lee could beat Tyson because Tyson wouldn't be able to hit him....
haha i gues you haven't seen the vid or ur just in denial cause bruce lee is ur child hood idol
Lmao i seen it fool he was killin that bag didnt u see the dints in the bag?
Can someone post that video of bruce lee on the heavybag, thats one of the funniest videos on youtube.
why is it funny watching bruce lee destroy a heavy bag?
"Bruce was also trained in Western boxing and won the 1958 Boxing Championship match against 3-time champion Gary Elms by knockout in the 3rd round. Before arriving to the finals against Elms, Lee had knocked out 3 straight boxers in the first round"
So looks like bruce lee was a puncher at his wieght too :)
bruce lee is like a featherwieght maybe even lighter in boxing terms so he couldnet take out mike tyson to be fair but he would put up a good fight.
Bruce lee was a boxer aswell he won a few amatuer tournements and bruce would proberly own the featherwieght division to be fair.
But i doubt he could take out mike tyson a prime one at that but it would be more like if tyson gets a clean shot then its over but if tyson doesnt bruce could defo disable mike then mess him up because of how quick and powerful he was.
Bruce was more then Karate he was his own style he would have kicke low to the gut, postered punched high to the head grappled and choked a mothafucka out
I'm as big of a boxing fan as I think we all are here at BS but I'm connected with reality when it comes to Boxing compared to other forms of fighting. Boxing's 2 biggest weaknesses are Muay Thai and Brazilian Ju-Jitsu. When on the street however self defense classes are the best to take. Self defense teaches you how to literally kill a guy or snap his neck or gouge his eyes or destroy the nads so and so forth. Muay Thai would rape a boxer in the street or in the ring as would a Brazilian Ju-Jitsu practicioner. Boxing is a good art form for when your fighting multiple opponents just jab straight right while backing up. BJJ is great for 1 on 1 however when you have multiple opponents you can't just hug a guy on the ground for a minute or two trying to get a lock on him because his friends will just kick the shit out of you. To be honest an MMA guy on the street against a boxer I see the MMA guy winning 9 out 10. Why because all he has to do is take it to the ground and its over. Boxers are just not trained for that.
Just a couple quick of things;
In 1975 in Houston there was an event entitled "Karate Masters versus Boxing Professionals and International Martial Arts Demonstrations", which featured three stand up matches as part of the card, and for those wishing to know, the results of the fights were as follows;
Termite Watkins KO-4 Chong Lee (2 time Korean national TKD champion)
Gene Wells KO-2 Dong Wook Lee (reigning world champion and two time Korean national TKD champion)
Mike Quarry TKO-1 Yong Tae Lee (TKD Grand Master, who quit the match to try to save face and stormed out of the ring in frustration due to his ineffectivenss against the boxer)
There were also other competitions pitting lesser known boxers against traditional standup martial artists during that time (Karate, Kickboxing, TKD was fairly popular during those days and was even featured on network television at times), and while the TMA won the odd one, it was the boxers who took the vast majority of them into taking apx 9 out of every 10.
As far as Jeet Kune Do goes, lets take a look how pretty the following JKD expert, Tony Valente, looks in the prefight video of him swinging the chucks, hitting the bag, etc. Then take a look at the actual fight itself, and notice the difference and how ineffective the JKD fighter was in using his style in actual competition;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUm3tSZgOqI
Of course, every fighter should be judged on their own individual merit and not only by the style of fighting they employ, but looking at how ineffective that JKD expert was in ground fighting (and to disagree with the earlier statement that Bruce was the "most complete" fighter), I'm just going to have to believe the words of Gene LeBell when he says that "I don't think he(Bruce) felt very comfortable on the ground". That's coming from someone who was instrumental in trying to teach Bruce about the grappling arts, as stated in the Aug 2001 issue of 'Grappling'.
good post.
the problem with martial arts like tae kwon do , karate and kung fu is in how they train. point competitions don't prepare you in a real fight.
boxers are used to getting hit those guys are not. once they get hit in the face all those pretty kicks go out the window.
Just a couple quick of things;
In 1975 in Houston there was an event entitled "Karate Masters versus Boxing Professionals and International Martial Arts Demonstrations", which featured three stand up matches as part of the card, and for those wishing to know, the results of the fights were as follows;
Termite Watkins KO-4 Chong Lee (2 time Korean national TKD champion)
Gene Wells KO-2 Dong Wook Lee (reigning world champion and two time Korean national TKD champion)
Mike Quarry TKO-1 Yong Tae Lee (TKD Grand Master, who quit the match to try to save face and stormed out of the ring in frustration due to his ineffectivenss against the boxer)
There were also other competitions pitting lesser known boxers against traditional standup martial artists during that time (Karate, Kickboxing, TKD was fairly popular during those days and was even featured on network television at times), and while the TMA won the odd one, it was the boxers who took the vast majority of them into taking apx 9 out of every 10.
As far as Jeet Kune Do goes, lets take a look how pretty the following JKD expert, Tony Valente, looks in the prefight video of him swinging the chucks, hitting the bag, etc. Then take a look at the actual fight itself, and notice the difference and how ineffective the JKD fighter was in using his style in actual competition;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUm3tSZgOqI
Of course, every fighter should be judged on their own individual merit and not only by the style of fighting they employ, but looking at how ineffective that JKD expert was in ground fighting (and to disagree with the earlier statement that Bruce was the "most complete" fighter), I'm just going to have to believe the words of Gene LeBell when he says that "I don't think he(Bruce) felt very comfortable on the ground". That's coming from someone who was instrumental in trying to teach Bruce about the grappling arts, as stated in the Aug 2001 issue of 'Grappling'.
Only the last two are completely essential. Boxing is a very nice touch though. And i know my shit.
i'm built like fat tua so...... muay thai high kicks are out of the arsenal. lol
i have to depend on boxing as my standup.
kodokan judo is very effective in self defense not so much in mma. in self defense purposes grabbing a guy by his jacket and throwing him onto his head on the pavement is quite effective and not a pleasant experience for the opponent. kosen judo of course is quite similar to bjj in fact it is its predecessor in martial arts lineage.
kung fu , tae kwon do and karate are crap.
for self defense learn one or more of the following: boxing , wrestling , judo , muay thai , brazilian jiu-jitsu.
Only the last two are completely essential. Boxing is a very nice touch though. And i know my shit.