Who has the better chin? Wladimir? Lennox?

lennox easily mccall and rahman were huge punchers wlad has been stopped three times by journeymen like purrity and has been dropped by guys like peter and a few others wlad wasn't stopped becuse of Purrity power, watch the fight. He was stopped because he puched himself out. All Purrity did in that fight was sustain a beatin.

About the same really, Wladimir has been on the canvas more , But LL has been KTFO a couples of times. Everytime Wlad has been knocked down he has gotten right back up. I think it's more of Wlads legs go weak when you put pressure on him not so much his chin.

Lewis didn't have a granite beard but did take flush shots from Vitali, Mercer, Holyfield, Briggs, Morrison, Grant, Bruno, Tucker etc and coped well. Wlad always clams up when hit clean, he doesn't have the constitution to take a big shot and recover.

Lewis didn't have a granite beard but did take flush shots from Vitali, Mercer, Holyfield, Briggs, Morrison, Grant, Bruno, Tucker etc and coped well. Wlad always clams up when hit clean, he doesn't have the constitution to take a big shot and recover.

Lewis definitely has the better chin, he has one of the most underrated chins in recent times.

bumped just for wlad owns.

Lewis, the way Lewis fought he left his hands low a lot of times and took a lot of unneeded punishment, so he got hit a lot more times than Wlad, Wlad has a much better defense and it's MUCH harder to get to Wlad's chin, but when that happens, Wlad really can't react as well as lewis.

lennox lewis

That's him. One of the most classless acts in the history of boxing. http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1110693/index.htm what a turd. i remember reading there was a bunch of cops from the police union at the fight watching and they took him straight to jail.

Yeah, but Tyson kept his punches very short and his cross was often done with body mechanics more of a hook. Tyson is probably the best example of what a frontfooted fighter should strive to. i love those types. frazier , dempsey , tyson , etc. too bad i don't have much video of jack. since you're the punching mechanics genius , brooklyn , how would you classify young foremans right? was it more of a hook or overhand? looked very roundhouse to me.

I know Haye's chin is shite! Shame Wlad fan boys don't fess up about Wlad's chin though. Thanks for playing. It's pretty obvious Wlad's chin isn't the greatest and to me that's part of what makes him an exciting fighter (minus his last fight which wasn't totally his fault.) I think Haye is an exciting fighter as well and wish him the best, if he brings excitement to the HW division, more power to him. Punching power is the last thing to go. Did that look like he lost he punching power to you? Fighting a guy that had been down 10 times in 26 fights against mostly junk competition, anyone can look good. There is no doubt that Tyson had lost much of the speed and power that made him so good when he was younger, by the time he faced Lennox. Hell that was almost 6 years after Holyfield stopped him. Even though Tyson and Holy were both past their primes when Lennox faced them, his resume is still miles ahead of Wlad's and Wlad had better get cracking if he wants to catch up.

are you sure? i thought it etienne? james butler? wasn't he the same guy in that fight when one guy clocked the other when the referee was raising the other's hand after the decision? That's him. One of the most classless acts in the history of boxing. http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1110693/index.htm

Or Tyson for that matter. But here comes the backfooted vs frontfooted fighter argument. Most of the frontfooted fighters, thier main weapon is a lefthook(or short, arched punches for that matter), it is much easier for them to master and it was always much more of an offensive weapon then cross which you usually needed to set up with a jab. Thus, frontfooted fighters were usually much more ko-oriented then backfooted fighters(I mean there are exceptions for that, but it is more or less a rule of a thumb) who in many cases fight at range. I wrote a lot on a difference of a shock from a hook(or an uppercut) from a cross as well, but lets just say that if you took two ko-punches, cross and a hook, left hook usually needs much less power to be a ko, because the energy from it is better absorbed then from a cross, mainly because with a cross you punch through the head and with a hook you punch into the head. Good case would be Wlad vs Peter where Wlad was not able to hurt Peter significantly with his crosses for the duration of the fight, but one short left hook in the end of the fight had peter on the queer street. That weaknesses was later exploited even more by Jameel McCline with his uppercuts. very true. i didn't want to mention tyson because both his cross and hook was murder (as well as the upper) i guess you're right about the hook. plus it's much harder for the body to absorb a sideways motion than a straight back motion. the opponent tends to not see the hook coming as well.

That was James Butler. Etienne is in jail for robbery, carjacking, kidnapping and attempted murder. are you sure? i thought it etienne? james butler? wasn't he the same guy in that fight when one guy clocked the other when the referee was raising the other's hand after the decision?

didn't etienne kill max kellerman's brother? crazy mofo. That was James Butler. Etienne is in jail for robbery, carjacking, kidnapping and attempted murder.

He knew his only chance was to KO Lewis. So he gained weight and put on muscle....it didn't work. if it was intentional.....it was a bad move. i know he was showing off his legs at pre-fight and they were huge and looked like he can legpress a honda but......the extra weight slowed him down imo. the 220 lb. tua would've done better.

They might be harder and all, but as it is left hook is a much more dangerous(especially in HW division) weapon than a cross, mainly because it is much harder to see. Still, Brewster always struck as much more of a headhunter then Rahman or McCall. well i know a overhand right or cross does different shock to the brain than a left hook but i don't know if much more dangerous. louis' ko's came mainly from his right. (though joe had perfect everything hook , cross , uppercut , etc.) rocky did his damage with suzie q. lennox did his with his overhand. shavers overhand right could knock over a volkswagen. hmmm..... then of course liston , frazier , tua , etc. did their damage with the hook. i don't know......

Lewis took a fair amount of solid shots throughout his career. To be honest, I'm not too confident in Wladimir's 'chin' (stamina/nerves/whatever you want to call it) but he is erasing those doubts with every fight of his. When you get knocked out 2 times almost back-to-back like Wladimir did against Brewster and Sanders, there have to be some doubts, he was also knocked down 3 times by Peter but got up to win a decision and has not been down since. As of now I would say that Lewis is more durable.

Punching power is the last thing to go. Did that look like he lost he punching power to you? i still remembering watching it live. my cousin and i saw him take out his own mouthpiece and we were like , "BULLSHIT!!!" didn't etienne kill max kellerman's brother? crazy mofo.

:rofl::rofl::rofl: Haye cant even take a glancing shot from a super middleweight bum. Now that Haye has moved up to heavyweight he officially has the worst chin in the division. Saying Haye has a glass chin would be an insult to glass. :rofl: I suppose Wlad has a chin of iron then?