I just wanted to know if that was consistent with "aztec Warrior" I think it showed quit.. As a Mexican I was surprised.
I had a debate at work against a PR who pointed out that Camacho never quit nor did any PR champ. Pissed me off..
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Was Watching Chavez DLH II and was disappointed when Chavez refused to answer the bell. I always thought he was a Mexican warrior. WTF??
el dia que te esten dando una catimba y que tu en tu humilde opinion sepas que no aguantas el empuje....diras no mas... no significa que no seas guerrero si no que reconoces tus limites...
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Duran did it... but no one can question his heart!!!
Any of you who reply factually, from either side, is being played.
This topic was made to infuriate Mexican fans, in a war that is going on between the guy who made the thread (anti-Mexican) and the guy with the "Latin King" avatar (anti-Puertorican).
As a Puertorican, I don't promote that kind of hate, so I won't really comment on what was said about Mr. Chávez. I'm just commenting on what's really going on here.
Thank you for posting this clip. I was looking for this for the longest.
Chavez quit and he refused to acknowledge that HE was the one who made the decision to QUIT!
Chavez was a sore loser, remember when he wanted to sue Richeard Steele for the Randall loss.
First off, you sound like you don't know shit about boxing or at least have a personal grudge with Chavez.
The man was a shell of his former self when he never came off the stool, you can't hold him acountable for that. He shouldn't even have been in the ring with DLH at that time let alone fight all the way through.
I will admit I was disapointed in what happened but Chavez wasn't the same man who had those great battles in his prime. It's like saying Sugar Ray Leonard was a bum because he lost to Donny LaLonde, come one.....
Second, if you have never fought you don't understand the pride these guys have. Fighters NEVER think they lost or at least lost as bad as people think. They always thinks they have more left in them and thats why they continue way to far in their careers.
Give Chavez a break, the man was a legend and one of the greatest fighters in the history of the sport. He fought alot to stay busy but also fought the best and won.
Vargas was the 2nd most exciting boxer in the world behind Tyson when he was coming up. He fought everyone and anyone!! before the age of 25!! oscar never acknowledged winky's or forrest calls for a bout. wonder why. If he wants to fight the best why wont he fight margarito if he wins july 26th? and if you dont think landing 20 something percent of your punches, swinging at air, while your opponent almost lands 50 percent of his punches against you going to school then you must really love oscar. Floyd landed twice as many shots on oscar. Let me guess you're one of the few blind guys that had oscar winning or losing a close fight :haha:
Vargas was pushed way too fast in his career he had no business in the ring with Felix at that time same goes for David Reid. Their management shortened their careers.
like i said, quit making excuses.
Iy is the same based on number of yrs in the game. Its Chavez,s fault he didnt prepare or whatever. Oscar get s hated on for beating Chavez and making him quit, stop the BS, if Chavez didnt think he xould win he wouldnt have taken the fight. After all, he was a warrior and and warriors and true mexicans don t quit.
Second this post, let us not forget his quit job in the second Randall fight crying over a headbutt knowing he had King and Sulamain assuring the win in a fight he clearly was losing.
Fucking armchair warriors.
'Go out on your shield man.'
'Real men fight to the end man.'
Try getting your lardy ass into a proper fight. All boxers are prepared for punishment. They and they alone know what their physical condition is and I would rather they quit when hugely outclassed and in danger than fight on into brain damage.
Why don't you 'momma's basement' boxing fans take a look at Gerald McClennan? Well worth another few rounds worth of punishment merely to satisfy some fat 'chip-eating' internet posters.
When you reach 16 or get a girlfriend you might realise that life is actually more important than looking tough.
Vargas was the 2nd most exciting boxer in the world behind Tyson when he was coming up. He fought everyone and anyone!! before the age of 25!! oscar never acknowledged winky's or forrest calls for a bout. wonder why. If he wants to fight the best why wont he fight margarito if he wins july 26th? and if you dont think landing 20 something percent of your punches, swinging at air, while your opponent almost lands 50 percent of his punches against you going to school then you must really love oscar. Floyd landed twice as many shots on oscar. Let me guess you're one of the few blind guys that had oscar winning or losing a close fight :haha:
nope, sorry son, had Oscar losing 115-113.
not a virtouso fight like Kellerman said by any stretch.
Vargas is a shit talker and when it came time to put up or shut up he FAILED, Tito, Oscar and Mayorga.
Its so much of that fake im more mexican than you bullshit can take you beore you have to prove it. And u want to know how much of a true mexican he was aginst Oscar he was, The GUY used Steroids!
this is a guy guy who has a Vargas pic...........too bad those roids did nothing form Vargas' chin, cheater.
Odlh ducked no one, no one.
He was not taken to school by Floyd, be realistic. Taken to school is calzagh vs lacy or Wright vs Trinidad.
Vargas was the 2nd most exciting boxer in the world behind Tyson when he was coming up. He fought everyone and anyone!! before the age of 25!! oscar never acknowledged winky's or forrest calls for a bout. wonder why. If he wants to fight the best why wont he fight margarito if he wins july 26th? and if you dont think landing 20 something percent of your punches, swinging at air, while your opponent almost lands 50 percent of his punches against you going to school then you must really love oscar. Floyd landed twice as many shots on oscar. Let me guess you're one of the few blind guys that had oscar winning or losing a close fight :haha:
funny interview after the fight chavez punks the hell out the translator and get very angry he says he did not quit
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_cmabbYRogg
ESO ES BOOSHET!
:p Bullshit*
funny interview after the fight chavez punks the hell out the translator and get very angry he says he did not quit
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_cmabbYRogg
Thank you for posting this clip. I was looking for this for the longest.
Chavez quit and he refused to acknowledge that HE was the one who made the decision to QUIT!
this is a guy guy who has a Vargas pic...........too bad those roids did nothing form Vargas' chin, cheater.
Odlh ducked no one, no one.
He was not taken to school by Floyd, be realistic. Taken to school is calzagh vs lacy or Wright vs Trinidad.
funny interview after the fight chavez punks the hell out the translator and get very angry he says he did not quit
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_cmabbYRogg
man, i respect and honor Chavez. But, what i cant put up with is the disrespect that Oscar gets for beating Chavez 2x. Oscar stood toe to toe with the symbol of Mexican machismo and beat him, give the man his props.
man get the fuck out of here with your bullshit! Chavez was an old way past his prime fighter that was getting hit. Just because he chose for the better of his health and safety to not continue the fight that means he's not a warrior?? Oscar beat an old chavez twice if that gets your panties in a bunch then so be it but don't hype it up like it was a great victory. Shit dlh had a trinidad fight won and ran the last half of the fight how do you expain that as machismo? Please get Oscars nuts out of your mouth and breath. Oscar gets credit for fighting the people he did. He doesnt get credit for ducking winky, and forrest. He doesnt get credit for whitaker or quartey, or trinidad. I give him the second mosley fight. He was a bitch and quit against hopkins if you wanna put it in your type of words. He was fucken taken too school by a guy smaller and 20lbs lighter than him in floyd. Oscar has enough nerve to mention fights with hatton and paquiao. Oscar wants to fight the best before he leaves so if cotto wins he will consider a fight with him but if margarito wins then he's going for a trinidad rematch:haha: Get oscars nuts out of your mouth please and open your eyes to who he really is.
I dont believe he quit. Nothing about his previous fights gives me the idea he would quit. He was getting a tougher fight and being puffy from Ike quartey, yet he came out in the 12th and went all out.
He got caught by the perfect punch, if u go back to the fight, before the the Ko , in between rds , Hopkins' corner told him to go to the body.
I understand all that and I agree that it isn't consistent with his previous fights and actions. It just didn't seem like the sort of punch that would stop a guy like Oscar. However, I haven't been hit with a perfect body punch so I guess I don't really know.
Man that fight puzzles me. I have watched it several times and I just do not understand why he quit. He wasn't taking too much of a beating was he?
I dont believe he quit. Nothing about his previous fights gives me the idea he would quit. He was getting a tougher fight and being puffy from Ike quartey, yet he came out in the 12th and went all out.
He got caught by the perfect punch, if u go back to the fight, before the the Ko , in between rds , Hopkins' corner told him to go to the body.
Don King threw Chavez in with the most dangerous fighters when he was at the end of his career becuase Chavez was still in a contract with Don King and King wanted to get the most of it. Chavez was old and past his prime weight class, its as simple as that. I personally would never blame a fighter that was his age and had been in as many wars as Chavez has. Julio is known as a legend and for having heart. He will always be remembered as one of the best warriors in boxing history. All action blood and guts fighter that that defined warrior. Also, no offense but between me and you Oscar quit against Hopkins.
Man that fight puzzles me. I have watched it several times and I just do not understand why he quit. He wasn't taking too much of a beating was he?