This isnt a race thing as you all may assume it is. But when i hear guys like Calzaghe and Mayweather Ducking or what not, they are American and European fighters respectively. Now how often do you hear Mexican Boxers ducking other fighters because the money isnt right? I mean Mexicans are some of the toughest in the game and I'd like to know what Mexican fighters have ducked/dodged other fighters. They fight any man anywhere for any price. Unlike the Americans who win one title fight then assume the world owes them a million dollar pay day. Juan Manuel Marquez for example went over to indonesia for 30k dollars. My memory could be messed up so please help me out and give me a name
Camacho beat the living shit out of your idol
see I can do that too
no mas
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Pac man is not better than Floyd or Cal. Pac has not fought valero or guzman so I don't get your argument. Pac being rated pfp the best is a farce. He made his bones beating used up guys, and is now fighting another fight he will probably win. Valero and guzman are practically chasing the man to 135. Pac has no wins against any prime, formidable fighters. None! He can fight, but it is about time he stepped up his comp. His best fight is a draw with J.M.M.
JMM's best fight also is a draw and a loss against Pacquiao!:rofl:
We all know that Margs is the biggest bum in boxing right now.. I don't know how he is even allowed to still box. Mexican never ducked anyone. How many Mexican Heavyweight champion of the world have there been? Fighting at skinny division and throwing a lot of weak punches doesn't make you anything special. Ain't no Mexican fighter ever had the same skill level as Ali, RJJ and Mayweather or the come close to defence as Mayweather and whitaker. I don't know why Mexicans don't claim De La Hoya he is the thing that has come form Mexico boxing.
You will eat your words when Margarito KOs Cotto!:haha:
Pac man is not better than Floyd or Cal. Pac has not fought valero or guzman so I don't get your argument. Pac being rated pfp the best is a farce. He made his bones beating used up guys, and is now fighting another fight he will probably win. Valero and guzman are practically chasing the man to 135. Pac has no wins against any prime, formidable fighters. None! He can fight, but it is about time he stepped up his comp. His best fight is a draw with J.M.M.
Pacman's U.S debut was against a prime black man on the Tyson-Lewis undercard who just a couple of months prior was being heralded as the next big thing in the juniorfeatherweight division by ring mag. Barrera was in his prime the 1st time Pacman destroyed him. Being ranked #2p4p right behind Jones jr. and coming off the most prolific win streak of his career.
Using the same logic. How many wins does floyd have against young, prime fighters. Shit the guy hasnt even fought anyone in their prime in over 6 years
David Diaz sent that Mofo into retirement aswell
Oscar ,Tszyu > Chavez
ok I get it
NSB must have set a up a program for the mentally incapacitated and you are their leader
have fun with that Corky
Im sorry but you are either new to boxing, a shit starter, or truely dumb
you mean it took 51 fights for Morales to legitimately be knocked down so now he is chinny?
it took Chavez 90?
isn't there a remedial boxing message board you can use because clearly you need one?
David Diaz sent that Mofo into retirement aswell
Oscar ,Tszyu > Chavez
Morales gave his father the puppy dog eyes and the shake of the head so Pacman did'nt beat him up worse
Chavez got put on his ass by Randall ,David Kamau beat that mofo Chavez by the way
Im sorry but you are either new to boxing, a shit starter, or truely dumb
you mean it took 51 fights for Morales to legitimately be knocked down so now he is chinny?
it took Chavez 90?
isn't there a remedial boxing message board you can use because clearly you need one?
Bad chins? Chavez, Sanchez, and Morales in their primes had granite chins. Look at Margarito today one of the best chins in the business
Morales gave his father the puppy dog eyes and the shake of the head so Pacman did'nt beat him up worse
Chavez got put on his ass by Randall ,David Kamau beat that mofo Chavez by the way
This isnt a race thing as you all may assume it is. But when i hear guys like Calzaghe and Mayweather Ducking or what not, they are American and European fighters respectively. Now how often do you hear Mexican Boxers ducking other fighters because the money isnt right? I mean Mexicans are some of the toughest in the game and I'd like to know what Mexican fighters have ducked/dodged other fighters. They fight any man anywhere for any price. Unlike the Americans who win one title fight then assume the world owes them a million dollar pay day. Juan Manuel Marquez for example went over to indonesia for 30k dollars. My memory could be messed up so please help me out and give me a name
Mexican fighter dont duck period thats why there faces look they have been involved in a car crash
they also have notoriously bad chins
Does this even make sense? Nobody wants to lose their first fight. Cal or Floyd aren't scared of anyone. That is just utterly ridiculous.
It makes perfect sense and you just confirmed it for me. Yes nobody likes to lose a fight you are right. So if you are in a position of power like joe or floyd and are able to pick your next opponent. Between A, B, and C, of course you are going to pick the one that you feel has the least possible chance of beating you. This is where Pacman sets himself apart from floyd and joe
Please. J.M.M was blatantly ducked by barrera and morales. Morales never even tried to truly make a fight with the man, and barrera thought j.m.m. lost something, so he took the fight, and lost just like i thought he would. Barrera fought better then i thought he would, but he lost.
you sure about that? I mean I heard straight from his Mexican promoter they did, highest payday, and JMM's people flat out said no. hmmm whom to believe the internet poster assuming or Morales' own promoter?
and the Maldonado's (Barrera's old promoters) are still around the LA scene I can ask them about whether or not Barrera and Marquez was talked about back in the day.
watch this guys......HEY VIVA!! why didn't chavez rematch frankie Randell after the controversial 2nd fight? why did chavez never choose to give pernell a rematch in the states? why didnt chavez fight tito? why did margarito turn down a paul wiliams rematch and fight kermit for less money? why did margarito back out of the first fight with cotto for less money? you seriously need to get your ass kicked by a white boy, a black guy, and an asain and for good sakes a canadian.
Damn you're good!
I wouldn't say scared of Pavlik per se. But much like Mayweather more a case of scared of the possibility of losing that 0 in the loss column. So he goes and fights someone he is alot more sure of himself against.
People said the same thing about Lacy and Kessler. The fight is not feasible because of weight issues, Calzaghe has nothing left to prove anyway so who can blame him for wanting to make as much money as possible.
He's obviously trying to legitimise the fight with Jones. Whether it is true or not is irrelevant, anyone prepared to entertain the notion that Calzaghe is scared of Pavlik needs their head checked.
I wouldn't say scared of Pavlik per se. But much like Mayweather more a case of scared of the possibility of losing that 0 in the loss column. So he goes and fights someone he is alot more sure of himself against.
Enzo Calzaghe "Pavlik has done nothing to earn a shot at Joe. We feel that Roy Jones jr. will be a much tougher test for him"
:wtf1:
He's obviously trying to legitimise the fight with Jones. Whether it is true or not is irrelevant, anyone prepared to entertain the notion that Calzaghe is scared of Pavlik needs their head checked.
Calzaghe hasn't ducked anyone so let's just forget that idea from the off.
Enzo Calzaghe "Pavlik has done nothing to earn a shot at Joe. We feel that Roy Jones jr. will be a much tougher test for him"
:wtf1: