Abraham Miranda - Ridiculously Lob Sided

This was one of the worst reffing jobs I've ever seen, and the result should read Miranda TKO. I dont argue that at all. The point deductions were absolute bullshit too. But that said if you dont think Abraham was the much better fighter all things considered then you werent watching the same fight I was. Without the broken jaw Abraham wins going away. Hell he stole a couple of the later rounds with it anyway.

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After watching the Abraham Miranda fight ( thanks to Tivo) I dont care how many points were deducted from Miranda,He clearly won that fight. not to mention the ridiculous 2 point deduction, I have never heard of such madness. It shouldve been a total of 2 points deducted 1 from the lowblow and 1 from the headbutt which makes it a 10-8 round thats it. take a look at the scorecards which were far from what I expected. europeans have the most crooked fights I agree.....

What excuse will you have after Arthur wins this bout?

Abraham won the first fight.. yall need to do a search, i remember when this first fight came about and we must've made like 20+ posts on this already....

Think how ridiculous that is that the guy who won on my scorecard only won four rounds. 112-111 is the lowest score I can recall for a 12 round fight. I think one of Trinidad's fights was really low like that with knockdowns and what not, but the WINNER only getting 112? That's insane

I had it 112-111 and have my scorecard I can pull up. I gave Abraham 4 rounds obviously, but the man fought with a broken jaw and even did really well in round 10 I believe it was. I thought he was winning early on fairly easily before the jaw incident. Here's a few things about that fight I noted: 1) 2 point deductions is common for an intentional foul. A lot of people here don't know that. 2) Miranda has to be the dumbest boxer on the planet or close to it. Not even 15 seconds after losing a point for a low blow he throws ANOTHER body shot. You're not supposed to throw body shots PERIOD after losing even one point for a low blow. Yet this idiot kept throwing them.

After watching the Abraham Miranda fight ( thanks to Tivo) I dont care how many points were deducted from Miranda,He clearly won that fight. not to mention the ridiculous 2 point deduction, I have never heard of such madness. It shouldve been a total of 2 points deducted 1 from the lowblow and 1 from the headbutt which makes it a 10-8 round thats it. take a look at the scorecards which were far from what I expected. europeans have the most crooked fights I see what you're saying, Miranda would have won the fight if he hadn't had the points deductions, but it wasn't ridiculously lop-sided, I think Abraham still took some of the rounds after the jaw break., and remember, this was a guy with a badly broken jaw. The fight was very crooked, no doubt about that, but Miranda has the chance to put it right on home soil tonight, and prove that he should have won. if indeed he should have. Hopefully it'll be a good fight.

Miranda is pure street trash. The man INTENTIONALLY head butts someone with a broken jaw. That's low, desperate, and weak pussy ass shit. Hopefully Abraham knocks him down to the ground where he belongs. Couldnt agree more. After headbutting your opponent deliberately and breaking his jaw you dont get the benefit of the doubt from the ref when the low blows happen. Hes a dirty fighter. I think without the point reductions the fight was 1 point in favor of Abraham anyway. Miranda threw more punches but Abraham had the more effective shots.

abraham clearly won that fight. miranda wasn't getting hit flush even in the latter part of the fight i gave miranda 3-4 rounds..

I thought Abraham won 7-5 in rounds. Yeah im not sure where these lob-sided miranda claims are coming from. He had a decent workrate but man he was sloppy.

I thought Abraham won 7-5 in rounds.

Miranda did a poor job on capitilizing on his situation (even with the ref working against him) but Abraham did alot of stupid shit that made the fight hard to score for him (IMO). When he would throw at Miranda, and then just stop! He would just fucking cover up and let Miranda wail away. I thought Miranda deserved the win, but the point deductions (even though they were ridiculous) did him in.

I personally think the ref only took the points because of abraham's acting job. Everytime there was a punch that was on the belt line, he looked at the ref to tell him it was low, or he would pretend he was hurt. The ref obviously sided with abraham in this regard. All of those "low blows" are pretty common in boxing and occur on a regular basis without warning or point deductions. Low blows are common, you're right. However, if the ref decides to warn you and you keep doing it, then you're too fucking stupid to win the fight and deserve every point deduction you get. Golota and anybody else can all fuck themselves. Like I said, it was a cluster fuck. The fight should have been stopped on several occasions and 5 point deductions is extremely excessive. But I think we're just going to go in circles here. We are going to have to agree to disagree because clearly we both saw the fight differently. 5 Points only seems like a lot from afar. Watching the fight I recall only chuckling at 1 of the low blow point deductions and felt it wasn't needed. The other 4 (2 from the Headbutt) were all fine with me. To quote myself from 10-1-2006 on this forum: Like I just don't get it. I'm usually the first person on this forum saying I can completely understand how people can score fights in different manners and am completely ok when judges don't see it my way. The judges did see it my way this time but a decent section of the public doesn't and I just can't agree with their perspective or even understand it. There is no way Miranda won enough rounds to get a W w/ the point deductions, and without them it's a crap shoot.

Maybe I'm just a lil drunk and not reading clearly, but you're saying you had "Miranda well, well ahead?" So you had Miranda winning the fight clearly? Headbutt was blatant. Low blows were certainly not blatant, and all of them, besides one, were on the belt line. It was a cluster fuck indeed. Just a typo on my part: I had Abraham well ahead. While I can understand your argument that not all 3 of the low blows should've warranted point deductions, 1-2 of them definitely should have.

Abraham still wins without the points deduction.. Miranda got stupid and failed to finish a badly injured opponent..

Obvioiusly you don't know how to score if you're factoring in that Abraham had a broken jaw! You don't score a round and say, "oh well fighter A has a broken jaw, so even though he's getting beat this round, he does have a broken jaw after all so I'll give him a round" lol, you suck. Also, I'm not crying robbery, it is what it is. A VERY poor referring job. Luckily we got a rematch tomorrow to settle it. Nowhere in my post do I claim that him having a broken jaw earns him brownie points; but instead I use it to point out how much better he is than Miranda in that fight. EVEN with the broken jaw and EVEN while fighting on his backfoot, he still was fighting the better fight. Seriously, anybody who actually reads posts on this forum knows I'm level headed and generally see both or multiple sides to arguments. There isn't one for me in this fight. I refuse to say Miranda deserved to win that fight. If I recall, my scorecard at the time had Miranda well, well ahead after all of the point deductions.' As far as the ref: you can say it was a cluster fuck with the broken jaw and how they handled it, but given the fact he could've packed it up and gone home with the W right then and there; I'm not sure what you're bitching about. And given the numerous low blows that Miranda continued to throw and how blatant that headbutt was, I'm not sure how you can be upset about Miranda getting what he deserved.

obvioiusly You Don't Know How To Score If You're Factoring In That Abraham Had A Broken Jaw! You Don't Score A Round And Say, "oh Well Fighter A Has A Broken Jaw, So Even Though He's Getting Beat This Round, He Does Have A Broken Jaw After All So I'll Give Him A Round" Lol, You Suck. Also, I'm Not Crying Robbery, It Is What It Is. A Very Poor Referring Job. Luckily We Got A Rematch Tomorrow To Settle It. +1^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Tommorow, Miranda will finally have his chance at revenge!!!! I'm hoping he can come out victorious.

You people should, you know, learn how to score fights. Abraham, broken jaw and all, while fighting off his backfoot for 1/2 the fight and throwing 1/4 as much as Miranda, still was schooling him for the latter part of the fight. People claim robbery because they see what they want to, rather than the truth. Say what you will about whether the fight should've been stopped or if too many points were taken away, but if you don't think w/ them AA won then you're absolutely nuts.