If Tommy Morrison hadnt contracted HIV, would would have become of him?

naa,,,if anything I think they were a detriment for him. big thick muscles arent good for boxing. his left hook power was due to his technique. he threw it very short with maximun leverage and tremendous speed for a 200+ lb guy. opponents couldnt see it coming. some of his knockout with that hook were damn brutal that's what i was saying earlier, juice might give you mass but they wont teach you leverage or how to sit down on your punches and throwing them from angles that maximize that force. i believe tommy was all natural there, but now he seemed to loose all that mass over the years. if you look at the recent videos his upper body is pretty big, but he's got toothpick arms. eventhough the guy loved to juice he was still worthy of a main event

beez since ive been asking other people, do you think steroids were a major factor in the power of that left hook? or was it morrison's creation naa,,,if anything I think they were a detriment for him. big thick muscles arent good for boxing. his left hook power was due to his technique. he threw it very short with maximun leverage and tremendous speed for a 200+ lb guy. opponents couldnt see it coming. some of his knockout with that hook were damn brutal

yea,,,tommy did a tua in that fight. just waited and waited. unfortunately for him he didnt have tua's chin and couldnt stick around the whole fight. lewis was intimidating to both those guys with his size and speed. he was an imposing mo fo beez since ive been asking other people, do you think steroids were a major factor in the power of that left hook? or was it morrison's creation

it was one of Lewis' masterfull performances. Morrison on the other hand looked off, and waited too long. maybe he froze up against Lennox, but Tommy did nothing that makes Tommy a Gun yea,,,tommy did a tua in that fight. just waited and waited. unfortunately for him he didnt have tua's chin and couldnt stick around the whole fight. lewis was intimidating to both those guys with his size and speed. he was an imposing mo fo

his pecs are really big but his arms are small! He talks like he's got a chaw of tobacco in his lower lip. He might be a crack head or something! or just plain dumb. did he have mascara around his eyes? he looked fuck1ng weird! yeah that what happens later on, he did look well proportioned in his younger days. but in his earlier fights he was really slim, almost skinny at 6'2

Weird! his pecs are really big but his arms are small! He talks like he's got a chaw of tobacco in his lower lip. He might be a crack head or something! or just plain dumb. did he have mascara around his eyes? he looked fuck1ng weird!

lol,,,,its "steward" and he was with lewis back then. lewis fought a great fight,,,used his jab well with lateral movement and gave morrison a boxing lesson. that was one of his sharper outings. he was in good shape and motivated it was one of Lewis' masterfull performances. Morrison on the other hand looked off, and waited too long. maybe he froze up against Lennox, but Tommy did nothing that makes Tommy a Gun

lewis wasnt at his best. Any lewis fan will tell you he was sloppy techinque wise and really began to shine was emmanuel stewart came in and polish lennox up. lol,,,,its "steward" and he was with lewis back then. lewis fought a great fight,,,used his jab well with lateral movement and gave morrison a boxing lesson. that was one of his sharper outings. he was in good shape and motivated

I think he would have been fun to watch, but he wouldnt have been a top guy. I like ol' Tommy Gun, but he wouldnt have beat the top opposition. This is what I think as well. He had KO power but not a lot beyond that.

To be fair, I don't think anybody has seen those fights. There's no airing of his HIV fights on television. You don't wanna risk him getting cut and having like a chain reaction in the ring. Didnt ESPN have one of his fights? I know I watched one because the commentators were bashing him and the commision for letting him fight.

Morrison knocked Ruddock out! Tommy only had 3 losses in about 50 fights and some of his biggest wins were after the Mercer loss. Morrison had a terrible fight plan for Lewis. He tried to use a similar style that he used to beat Foreman which was a mistake. Tommy needed to get inside and land hooks to the body and head (maybe he catches lewis on his weak chin), not try to fight on the outside like he did. Morrison never was broke "down mentally" he kept getting up and coming forward even though Lewis was giving him a beating. Tommy showed a ton of heart that night.i agree Tommy showed a lot of heart against Lennox. he was still standing when Mills waved it off. but tommy had quite a few come from behind victories. obviously he wasnt able to get up against mercer, i dont know how anyone would after an assault like that. but he got up other times and fought harder. He was like chico RIP. they may not have had iron chins but they didnt stay down.

He never was the same after the Mercer fight. He lost all of his confidence and just folded in a lot of situations. I do give him credit for sticking in there as long as he did against Ruddock, but Lennox Lewis broke him down mentally. Morrison knocked Ruddock out! Tommy only had 3 losses in about 50 fights and some of his biggest wins were after the Mercer loss. Morrison had a terrible fight plan for Lewis. He tried to use a similar style that he used to beat Foreman which was a mistake. Tommy needed to get inside and land hooks to the body and head (maybe he catches lewis on his weak chin), not try to fight on the outside like he did. Morrison never was broke "down mentally" he kept getting up and coming forward even though Lewis was giving him a beating. Tommy showed a ton of heart that night.

He contracted HIV, so we'll never know what would have been of him

Not to sound negative to you, but the mercer-morrison fight was an example of what happens when you come in with no game plan for every fight. He would never become a true heavyweight champ. He was a guy who had a decent punch, but nothing more. well i never said that morrison was in the class of a guy like Lennox Lewis. boxing was not one of his strong points, although he did pretty good against foreman. but morrison liked to fight, fire that left and see what would happen. he was exciting to watch

Juice is testosterone. It makes you more "manley" makes you heal faster. Lets you work out harder with more agression. heal faster It will make you stronger,faster. BUT! Its like sucking in your gut and puffing out your chest when you walk down the beach..eventually ..you have to stop cycling.... then you go down...WAYYYY down..and everyone says 'man whats wrong? you look like shit..are youy sick???? and your bench drops wayy down...THATS why guys get hooked! Stay natural....it takes longer but stays with you damn near forever.. I havent touched a weight in 10 years and I still look great at 6'4" and 244# Kept all the hard earned muscle! All the guys who juiced and passed me in powerlifting i later passed... once they stopped juicing they were so far behind me even juice wouldnt catch em up Boxers who juice get gassed fast,and dont last! Assistant strength coach U of A Football team Personal best in the gym Bench 455 (not official lift) Squat 615 Deadlift 705 At body weight of 277# it's true once you go off the cycle you tend to loose some of the gains you made. Tommy now also looks much slimmer than he did in his hey day. doesnt have that thick mass. and i could see that gyno (man tits) common side effect. but it's not like the guy was low key about it, he addmited to it, and actually blames roids for his HIV results i still dont think that testosterone (if it was in fact what he took and not something else) gave him that left hook. i mean tommy used leverage, he used to sit down, he knew the angles to where he could deliver that punch properly with maximum force. i think roids gave him size, but the left hand was his also i think Joe Hipp busted his jaw, and tommy actually dropped down in weight to 180 pounds, can you believe that? all he used to eat were protein shakes, but eventually he put the weight back on once he started eating after his jaw healed. used juice for extra help, no doubt.

I found a picture of Terrible..., I think I understand now why he's so bitter: http://soiland.no/gallery/d/3514-2/andrev_nerd.jpg

Juice is testosterone. It makes you more "manley" makes you heal faster. Lets you work out harder with more agression. heal faster It will make you stronger,faster. BUT! Its like sucking in your gut and puffing out your chest when you walk down the beach..eventually ..you have to stop cycling.... then you go down...WAYYYY down..and everyone says 'man whats wrong? you look like shit..are youy sick???? and your bench drops wayy down...THATS why guys get hooked! Stay natural....it takes longer but stays with you damn near forever.. I havent touched a weight in 10 years and I still look great at6'4" and 244# Kept all the hard earned muscle! All the guys who juiced and passed me in powerlifting i later passed... once they stopped juicing they were so far behind me even juice wouldnt catch em up Boxers who juice get gassed fast,and dont last! Assistant strength coach U of A Football team Personal best in the gym Bench 455 (not official lift) Squat 615 Deadlift 705 At body weight of 277# YEAH YEAH stfu Arnie :banana: http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o144/League_of_Cantankerous_Misanthropes/InternetToughGuy.jpg

Yeah his left hook was brutal, no question about it. I don't think he had a bad chin, but he just left it open for a lot of other heavy hitters to land on. He did have the world at his feet. Coming back from that terrible knockout by Mercer was a huge feat in itself. He was an offensive dynamo though. He never was the same after the Mercer fight. He lost all of his confidence and just folded in a lot of situations. I do give him credit for sticking in there as long as he did against Ruddock, but Lennox Lewis broke him down mentally.

So you know Juice is testosterone. It makes you more "manley" makes you heal faster. Lets you work out harder with more agression. heal faster It will make you stronger,faster. BUT! Its like sucking in your gut and puffing out your chest when you walk down the beach..eventually ..you have to stop cycling.... then you go down...WAYYYY down..and everyone says 'man whats wrong? you look like shit..are youy sick???? and your bench drops wayy down...THATS why guys get hooked! Stay natural....it takes longer but stays with you damn near forever.. I havent touched a weight in 10 years and I still look great at 6'4" and 244# Kept all the hard earned muscle! All the guys who juiced and passed me in powerlifting i later passed... once they stopped juicing they were so far behind me even juice wouldnt catch em up Boxers who juice get gassed fast,and dont last! Assistant strength coach U of A Football team Personal best in the gym Bench 455 (not official lift) Squat 615 Deadlift 705 At body weight of 277#

lewis wasnt at his best. Any lewis fan will tell you he was sloppy techinque wise and really began to shine was emmanuel stewart came in and polish lennox up. umm, steward was in the corner for the morrison fight, and they already had a few fights together before tommy. steward also said in an interview years later that Lewis had a lot of respect for Tommy, and trained hard for the fight. you can see in the fight that Lewis was holding right hand high to avoid that hook. Lennox was in supreme condition for that fight if anything, Tommy looked a little sloppy and not really offensive minded. But i still see lennox beating Tommy regardless, unless Morrison is able to snaek his left.