I was watching videos of Tommy Hearns and Jermain Taylor working the flicker jab and thinking to myself that it's borderlining on being a backhand, thus being illegal. And it got me wondering why is it illegal?? Throwing a backhand doesnt serve any strategic advantage or pose any health hazards on the receiving end. It would add a whole new dimension to the sweet science if it was legal.
Was is a past term, that layer is already there. Unless you want to evolve it.
Ignore the first 5 seconds. That would not help boxing :lol1::lol1:
Yes it would definitely evolve if it was legal. Lets take that video you posted as reference. If a boxer threw that same backhand in boxing it would have been blocked the same way as a hook. But when it gets blocked up top the backhand can be doubled up and thrown to the body which would now be wide open.
How do you think he was able to land those rights so effectively?? Remember the original point I wanted to get across was that backhands would add a whole new layer of strategy to the sweet science
Was is a past term, that layer is already there. Unless you want to evolve it.
Ignore the first 5 seconds. That would not help boxing :lol1::lol1:
I enjoy seeing Hearns KO people with his right hand. Not backhand pimp slap people:banana:
Yeah i enjoyed the two 'wars' with Hopkins and the FotY Cory Spinks match up
Comparing Boxing and a Movie doesn't work. I enjoyed Rocky, don't mean i will instantly love any boxing fight
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How do you think he was able to land those rights so effectively?? Remember the original point I wanted to get across was that backhands would add a whole new layer of strategy to the sweet science
Flicker jabs are pretty much backhands and im sure you've enjoyed several thomas hearns and jermain taylor fights. Pretty sure you've watched the bourne identity movies and they incorporate plenty of backhands in their fight scenes and alotta people still enjoyed it
I enjoy seeing Hearns KO people with his right hand. Not backhand pimp slap people:banana:
Yeah i enjoyed the two 'wars' with Hopkins and the FotY Cory Spinks match up
Comparing Boxing and a Movie doesn't work. I enjoyed Rocky, don't mean i will instantly love any boxing fight
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I repeat who wants to see boxers backhand slap each other!?
You wanna see that go watch some Hoes fightin, No one wants boxiers slappin eack other!
That would take pitty-pat to a new level :nonono:
Flicker jabs are pretty much backhands and im sure you've enjoyed several thomas hearns and jermain taylor fights. Pretty sure you've watched the bourne identity movies and they incorporate plenty of backhands in their fight scenes and alotta people still enjoyed it
I repeat who wants to see boxers backhand slap each other!?
You wanna see that go watch some Hoes fightin, No one wants boxiers slappin eack other!
That would take pitty-pat to a new level :nonono:
I always thought because it would be a punch that is so much more damaging than all the others.
It is with the hardest part of your hand... and you can also get the most momentum when backhanding it.
But that sounds stupid next to Silencer's explanation, so you should probably go with that.
If you backhand someone and catch the actual back of your hand on a brow or forehead, you will break your hand. It is definitely not the hardest part of your hand. That's your knuckles. But you can deliver more comparitively force, faster, with a backhand than you can with a straight punch (like a jab), nearly double. That's probably another reason why it's illegal.
LOL exxcept UFC fighters I see alot of them using a "spinning Backfist" I think its one of the worst pnches ever it leaves alot of meat to be hit witht he opponent openly ready to hit if he misses
Once again I am NOT talking about a spinning backfist like you see in ufc highlight reels. Im talking about a simple backhand. Imagine throwing a right cross and missing. Now instead of being vulnerable in this position imagine being able to keep offensive momentum by pulling your right cross back in the same flight path it had just taken instead of tucking it back undr your chin into a defensive position.
Cause it would mean that fighters would be back hand slapping each other, and wtf is up with that!? No one wants to see that shit..
LOL exxcept UFC fighters I see alot of them using a "spinning Backfist" I think its one of the worst pnches ever it leaves alot of meat to be hit witht he opponent openly ready to hit if he misses
One of the more famous backhands in history was seen during a fight between 'Nonpariel' Jack Dempsey and George LaBlanche in Aug of 1889, and here's a description of it from the fight reports of the time as printed on Aug 28th, 1889, in the Brooklyn Daily Eagle;
"The thirty-first round was exceedingly tame, but when the men came up for the thirty-second round Dempsey attempted to force matters. He was by far the fresher man of the two, and with but few exceptions had had the fight all his own way up to the present time. He forced LaBlanche into a corner and pounded him unmercifully. The latter recieved staggering blows on the head and neck, but stood up under them well. The men gradually worked to the center of the ring and while Dempsey continued to find LaBlanche's neck the latter whirled around suddenly and caught Dempsey a terrific blow on the jaw and the Nonpariel went down like a shot. He fell heavily upon his face and the blood spurted out upon the floor of the ring. Ten seconds went by amid intense excitement. Dempsey struggled bravely to rise, but before he had reached his feet, weak and staggering, the time had expired and the referee had awarded the fight to LaBlanche."
In his 'Greatest Fighters' book, Bert Sugar described the punch LaBlanche landed as such;
"But then in the thirty-second, LaBlanche spun completely around. Gaining momentum, his right arm straight out, he caught Dempsey with a perfectly executed pivot punch; or more correctly stated, he gave him the back of his hand, literally. Dempsey went down like a barrel filled with cement, out cold."
But with gloves nowadays it doesnt seem like it would pose any health hazard like intentional cuts. Itd be a trip to see someone parry a big bomb only to have it come back and cause a knockdown anyway
I guess they just haven't bothered to take away the rule.
Alright to help illustrate my point on how backhands would add a new intricate layer of strategy in boxing use any number of fight videos as reference.
Boxer A throws a basic 1-2 combination but misses with the right hand. Boxer B steps left and now has a beautiful angle to take advantage of the miss. Normally Boxer A would now be in a world of shit because he is now caught in a bad angle with no way to defend. If Boxer B throws a right of his own however he leaves himself just as exposed to a backhand to the body from Boxer A
2nd scenario is Boxer B sways left to avoid the the right and steps in for a counter uppercut. When Boxer B lowers his right to deliver the uppercut he can get backhanded in the face for dropping his guard.
nah i like the fact boxing is only punching cos it means the fighters have to get that technique down to a fine art and utilise as best they can rather than being mediocre at everything ie: a UFC fighter
Knowing how to throw and block/parry a backhand can be as much of an art as anything else. Im not talking spinning backfist like you see in ufc but a backhand. Think bitchslap but with a fist.
Apparently in the old days, I'm talking about old, when fighters fought bare knuckled, fighters used to throw back hands to intentionally cut their opponents, so when the Marquis of Queenbury rules got instated, backhands were illegal because it could intentionally cause cuts or make cuts worse.
But with gloves nowadays it doesnt seem like it would pose any health hazard like intentional cuts. Itd be a trip to see someone parry a big bomb only to have it come back and cause a knockdown anyway
I always thought because it would be a punch that is so much more damaging than all the others.
It is with the hardest part of your hand... and you can also get the most momentum when backhanding it.
But that sounds stupid next to Silencer's explanation, so you should probably go with that.