I was inspired by a thread about Felix Trinidad, who has a great resume in his own right, and it got me to thinking. Who do YOU think has the best resume in the history of boxing.
Incidentally, here is the resume of Felix Trinidad that inspired the thread. We'll call this a starting point, so to speak.
FELIX TRINIDAD
Roy Jones Jr 51-4-0
Ronald Wright 48-3-0
Ricardo Mayorga 27-4-1
Bernard Hopkins 39-2
William Joppy 32-1-1
Fernando Vargas 20-0-0
David Reid 14-0-0
Oscar De La Hoya 31-0-0
Pernell Whitaker 40-2-1
Luis Ramon Campas 56-0-0
Oba Carr 32-0-0
Hector Camacho 43-2-0
It'd be cool if you all kinda posted the resumes like this, but it's all good. And I realize that this might be impossible to ever truly get right. That's not the point. Who IN YOUR MIND, has the best boxing resume, ever?
Discuss.
Duran, Ali, Robinson, Greb those guys are the obvious choices.
Of today, the only guys who will be listed along with those guys in 20 years are Oscar and Floyd. But de la Hoya especially.
dlh is sooooo overrated....he may have fought great fighters but lost to them or barely eaked out controversial wins..in not one fight but several...
Perhaps, he shouldn't have beat Whitaker. But you honestly think that Mosley beat him in the second fight and that Trinidad won the fight. HONESTLY?
If you're a Mosley or a Puerto Rican, you don't have to answer. Lol.
Ali beat liston, frazier, foreman, Lyle,shavers, Norton, over TWO DIFFERENT DECADES.........
Leonard beat Duran top all time fighter, Hagler top all time fighter, Hearns top all time fighters, Benitez not quite up there with these 3 but another top all time fighter, Kalule undefeated jr middle who was also the number uno ranked jr welter in the world at the time of the 76 olympics and was favored to win the gold over leonard..but they boycotted.
Robinon ...where should I start......
I was inspired by a thread about Felix Trinidad, who has a great resume in his own right, and it got me to thinking. Who do YOU think has the best resume in the history of boxing.
Incidentally, here is the resume of Felix Trinidad that inspired the thread. We'll call this a starting point, so to speak.
FELIX TRINIDAD
Roy Jones Jr 51-4-0
Ronald Wright 48-3-0
Ricardo Mayorga 27-4-1
Bernard Hopkins 39-2
William Joppy 32-1-1
Fernando Vargas 20-0-0
David Reid 14-0-0
Oscar De La Hoya 31-0-0
Pernell Whitaker 40-2-1
Luis Ramon Campas 56-0-0
Oba Carr 32-0-0
Hector Camacho 43-2-0
It'd be cool if you all kinda posted the resumes like this, but it's all good. And I realize that this might be impossible to ever truly get right. That's not the point. Who IN YOUR MIND, has the best boxing resume, ever?
Discuss.
Nice. Puerto Rican fighter Miguel Cotto has big shoes to fill but he is off to a great start. Maybe in a couple years he will have the resume and win the fights Tito couldn't.
Is this for who fought the best, or who beat the best. If it is who fought the best...then clearly Duran, Ali, robinson. If it is who beat the best, then Leonard, Robinson, Ali.
Honorable mention....Whitacker, DlH, Pacquio, Greb, and others.....
Duran fought the best, but didnt BEAT them. He lost 2 out of 3 to leonard, lost to Benitez, lost to hearns, lost to Hagler. Robinson is it for me... Ali is pretty good, Leonard is good, Tito is good, Dlh is good, Sweat Pea. Pacquio now is good...
De la hoya
Floyd Mayweather jr 37-0
Bernard Hopkins 44-2 hadnt lost in over 10 years with has a UD to Roy jones Jr.
Felix Trinidad 35-0
Pernell Whitaker 41-1
Julio Cesar Chavez 96-1
Oba Carr 48-2
Ike quartey 34-0
Fernando Vargas 22-1
Ricardo Mayorga 28-5
Shane Mosely 34-0
Arturo Gatti
Genaro Hernandez 32-0
Hector Camacho 63-3
Rafael Rueles 43-1
Wilfredo Rivera 43-2
also there were several good fighters with undefeated records or 1-2 loss records that delay hoya beat. I only posted the recognizable names.
But the thing that makes his list so great is that almost all of them where at there absolute peak when Oscar faced them and majority of them were undefeated at the time too. So there werent any glaring weakness in his opponents. Most guys can beat a fighter once they have been previously exposed and a weakness or short comming can be futhur expose. Oscar didnt have that luxury and they were all Mega fights with alot of pressure on Oscar to perform.
I always thought that De La Hoya, Ali and Robinson most impressed me. De La Hoya lost a bit of his most important fights, but eitherway, he still fought PRIME fighters while in his prime. Not many can say they did that ALL throughout their careers. Ali beat a lot of prime fighters, gave a couple their first losses and Robinson is Robinson. It'd be between those three if you asked me.
De la hoya
Floyd Mayweather jr 37-0
Bernard Hopkins 44-2 hadnt lost in over 10 years with has a UD to Roy jones Jr.
Felix Trinidad 35-0
Pernell Whitaker 41-1
Julio Cesar Chavez 96-1
Oba Carr 48-2
Ike quartey 34-0
Fernando Vargas 22-1
Ricardo Mayorga 28-5
Shane Mosely 34-0
Arturo Gatti
Genaro Hernandez 32-0
Hector Camacho 63-3
Rafael Rueles 43-1
Wilfredo Rivera 43-2
also there were several good fighters with undefeated records or 1-2 loss records that delay hoya beat. I only posted the recognizable names.
But the thing that makes his list so great is that almost all of them where at there absolute peak when Oscar faced them and majority of them were undefeated at the time too. So there werent any glaring weakness in his opponents. Most guys can beat a fighter once they have been previously exposed and a weakness or short comming can be futhur expose. Oscar didnt have that luxury and they were all Mega fights with alot of pressure on Oscar to perform.
Sam Langford and Harry Greb very likely have the best resumes ever considering quality of names because of them having so many fights, with Langford having the most individual fights against HOF'ers with something like 60, but for overall quality as opposed to quantity, it's tough to beat Jimmy McLarnin's resume;
HOF'ers he fought include; Barney Ross (x3), Tony Canzoneri (x2), Billy Petrolle (x3), Benny Leonard, Lou Ambers, Fidel LaBarba (x3), Pancho Villa, Sammy Mandell (x3), Young Corbett III, Bud Taylor (x3), Jackie Fields, Kid Kaplan, and Lou Brouillard.
Other top fighters and/or champions he fought were; Sid Terris, Young Jack Thompson, Al Singer, Sammy Fuller, Sgt. Sammy Baker, Memphis Pal Moore, Joe Glick (x3), Stanislaus Loayza, Ray Miller (x2) Rudy Goldstein, etc., etc.
That's about 25 fights against HOF'ers, in addition to plenty of other fights against other top guys that were around, which, I might add, took place in a career of less than 70 professional fights.
Oh, and it's worth noting that he beat every one of those guys too, I believe, with the exception of Brouillard.
The stars of the 80's (Duran, Leonard, Hagler, and Hearns) all have excellent resumes primarily because they all fought each other and faced off against other good fighters of that era.
Gotta have Ali in there as well.
Joe Louis
Jersey Joe Walcott
Roland LaStarza
Ezzard Charles
Archie Moore
You don't get any better.
For heavyweights alone, you wouldn't call, for example.....
Liston, Foreman, Frazier, Archie Moore, Henry Cooper, Floyd Patterson, Buster Mathis.... Norton... Shavers... Giving Spinks and Foreman their first losses, and fighting Frazier while he was undefeated and Liston with only one loss. I think that trumps Marciano, but to each his own.
Rocky Marciano.
Really, Rocky Marciano? I'm not being a smartass, why would he be the guy with the best resume to you? Undefeated, sure. but against the best resume in all of boxing, ever? Really?