Evander Holyfield is arguably the greatest top ten or 15 heavyweight, he fought many wars, and beat some solid fighter
vote if you think that the greatest fighter holyfield had beaten was mike tyson, and if it was the hilite win of his career
Personally I think if Tyson was really in his prime he would've absolutely dominated Ruddock, early KO. The belts he won weren't exactly off stellar titleholders.
Bowe when he got beat by Golata had self destructed, when he fought Holyfield he hadn't . He seld detructed faster than Tyson but he was in his prime when he fought Evander. Tyson was given a good beating from Holyfield, I didn't say he was dominated but Evander didn't really have all that much trouble with him. I say it wa sa rather easy CONSIDERING everyone expected Evander to get destroyed at the time.
If Evander had beaten Tyson at say the time when Tyson beat Holmes then it would be his greatest win, Tyson in his prime was a better fighter than Bowe but Tyson when he fought Holyfield wasn't as good as the Bowe that fought Holyfield. It's my own opinion I think Tyson was done at the time, i'm not slating you for you opinion I can understand why you'd think Tyson was his best win but personally I don't think it is.
fair enough, i respect every fact that you have provided, and with the way you put it i might change my view on this. but tyson was a bigger name with more credentials than bowe
okay first 90% of what you said is wrong. here's why
i love how people say that holyfield dominated tyson and beat him at his own game. when if you watch the tape you can clearly see that tyson is doing very well in the early parts of the fight, and holyfield is fighting smart and grabbing mike, and grabbin him often.
lewis, and douglas dominated tyson, holyfield did not. but he did give him a good beating
second if tyson's career was over after douglas he wouldnt have come back and give his 2 memorable perfomances again razor ruddock. if tyson was done he wouldnt have been able to win belts after 4 years of inactivity. this wasnt prime tyson, but it was not quite the tyson that fought lennox lewis either, who by then was clearly done
bowe was beaten by golota like a dog, TWICE. did you see that tyson did to andrew, and mind you this was during the period when mike was stoned. not in the fight obviously, but it was the time in his life when he was experimenting with drugs. i figure you for another tyson hater
bowe was already in decline when he was finishing up the trilogy with holyfield
Personally I think if Tyson was really in his prime he would've absolutely dominated Ruddock, early KO. The belts he won weren't exactly off stellar titleholders.
Bowe when he got beat by Golata had self destructed, when he fought Holyfield he hadn't . He seld detructed faster than Tyson but he was in his prime when he fought Evander. Tyson was given a good beating from Holyfield, I didn't say he was dominated but Evander didn't really have all that much trouble with him. I say it wa sa rather easy CONSIDERING everyone expected Evander to get destroyed at the time.
If Evander had beaten Tyson at say the time when Tyson beat Holmes then it would be his greatest win, Tyson in his prime was a better fighter than Bowe but Tyson when he fought Holyfield wasn't as good as the Bowe that fought Holyfield. It's my own opinion I think Tyson was done at the time, i'm not slating you for you opinion I can understand why you'd think Tyson was his best win but personally I don't think it is.
Come on man, you asked for opinions and he gave you his. Don't be a dick to him over his opinion. I disagree with him as well, but its his opinion so i aint critising.
I think it's a valid opinion too, it was clear to me that Bowe had much more left in the tank when he fought Holyfield than Tyson did, Bowe was also 6'5", 240 lbs.
Both were great wins for Holyfield although the win over Tyson probably cemented his spot as a top heavyweight.
Not because Tyson was at his best by that point of his career but because there was so much hype around him and Holyfield looked like he was done.
im just asking him a question, is that not aloud?
it just sounded like you were attacking him cause he didnt agree :lol1:
I apologize if that was not your intension. :kiss:
Come on man, you asked for opinions and he gave you his. Don't be a dick to him over his opinion. I disagree with him as well, but its his opinion so i aint critising.
im just asking him a question, is that not aloud?
what's bowe ever done that was greater than tyson? if anything he self destructed even faster than tyson did
Come on man, you asked for opinions and he gave you his. Don't be a dick to him over his opinion. I disagree with him as well, but its his opinion so i aint critising.
Tyson was gone by the time he fought Holyfield and the manner in which he beat him was particularly easy, the 3 fights with Bowe proved Holyfield could overcome versatility.
Bowe HADN'T self-destructed when he fought Holyfield, Tyson's career as a great heavyweight was over when Douglas beat him.
It was a good win as Tyson was a still a top heavy, but I think at the respective stages in Tyson and Bowe's career, Bowe had a lot more to give.
okay first 90% of what you said is wrong. here's why
i love how people say that holyfield dominated tyson and beat him at his own game. when if you watch the tape you can clearly see that tyson is doing very well in the early parts of the fight, and holyfield is fighting smart and grabbing mike, and grabbin him often.
lewis, and douglas dominated tyson, holyfield did not. but he did give him a good beating
second if tyson's career was over after douglas he wouldnt have come back and give his 2 memorable perfomances again razor ruddock. if tyson was done he wouldnt have been able to win belts after 4 years of inactivity. this wasnt prime tyson, but it was not quite the tyson that fought lennox lewis either, who by then was clearly done
bowe was beaten by golota like a dog, TWICE. did you see that tyson did to andrew, and mind you this was during the period when mike was stoned. not in the fight obviously, but it was the time in his life when he was experimenting with drugs. i figure you for another tyson hater
bowe was already in decline when he was finishing up the trilogy with holyfield
what's bowe ever done that was greater than tyson? if anything he self destructed even faster than tyson did
Tyson was gone by the time he fought Holyfield and the manner in which he beat him was particularly easy, the 3 fights with Bowe proved Holyfield could overcome versatility.
Bowe HADN'T self-destructed when he fought Holyfield, Tyson's career as a great heavyweight was over when Douglas beat him.
It was a good win as Tyson was a still a top heavy, but I think at the respective stages in Tyson and Bowe's career, Bowe had a lot more to give.
Personally I think it's Bowe, with Tyson a close second.
what's bowe ever done that was greater than tyson? if anything he self destructed even faster than tyson did
From Boxrec on Holy-Douglas
Douglas weighed in at 246 pounds for this fight, 15 pounds more than he weighed when he fought Tyson. Although Douglas had weighed in at higher weights during other points in his career, he clearly was not in the stellar shape he was in to fight Tyson. In fact, psychologically, Douglas also seemed to be in a different state of mind than when he fought Holyfield, as he did not throw many punches and seemed to have other things on his mind.
Interestingly, within one minute into fight, one of the BBC commentators stated that Douglas would get knocked out. He repeatedly criticized Douglas's shape throughout the fight. Holyfield did a very good job in the first two rounds of counterpunching and moving his head, and Douglas didn't have any plan B. In the third round Douglas was caught with a counter right hook from Holyfield that put him down. Douglas, although conscious, showed no attempts to get up. Casino owner Steve Wynn was furious afterwards and insisted that Douglas not be paid for his lack of effort. it's pointless, you trying to convince the guy who'll use whatever pathetic perk he can to down grade tyson, and has nothing but blind hate
Yeah and you can easily tell that by the way a 34 year old Holyfield stopped a 30 year old Tyson. And also by the way Holyfield easily demolished Buster Douglas in 3 rounds, 8 months after Buster stopped a 23 year old Tyson.
Didn't Buster train by sittin watching tapes of him KOing Tyson for that fight thought?
I was under the impression he was out of shape for Holy...
Buster was in the shape of his life for Tyson. For Holyfield he elected to train at McDonalds and Burger King. that's one thing Jimmy Boy, the biggest tyson hater, refuses to aknowledge
Yes probably, but Tyson in his prime would of beat Holyfield.
Yeah and you can easily tell that by the way a 34 year old Holyfield stopped a 30 year old Tyson. And also by the way Holyfield easily demolished Buster Douglas in 3 rounds, 8 months after Buster stopped a 23 year old Tyson.
it is in the heavyweight division, im doing this poll for an ownage for a retarded poster
Oh in the heavyweight division, i thought you meant over all :lol1:
Yea i would say that was hs best win at heavyweight with Bowe a close runner up.
I don't know loads about Holyfield, but Tyson has to be one of, if not his best win.
it is in the heavyweight division, im doing this poll for an ownage for a retarded poster