Not only does he clearly duck Pavlik, a fight he knows he would get killed in, he wasnt even classy about it.
Normally, guys like Mayweather, they duck but they do it with some class. Mayweather gave Cotto his props.
Calzaghe said that it was PAVLIK who didnt want to fight HIM?!?!?! Wtf. PAVLIK was asking for it, Arum was asking for it and said negotiations were going great, Warren even wanted it... CALZAGHE was the only one that didnt want the fight!!!! And he has the balls to say it was Pavlik who didn't want it? LOL.
And then he goes on to say that he is to big a step up for Pavlik??? Pavlik, who JUST became champ less then a year ago, ALREADY practically has an equal pedegree. I mean, taylor twice and Miranda and Zertucheis as good as Kessler and a 43 year old Hopkins. Calzaghe has a bit better ledger... but he has been champ for 10 YEARS!!!!! lol
Calzaghe is HARDLY a big step up, and now the pavlik-Calzaghe superfight will never happen, because Roy Jones is OBVIOUSLY going to knock the crap outta Calzaghe. what a mismatch that is
Yes, Calzaghe has several fight offers on the table for once, and he most likely chooses the one he always said was his first preference, and he's ducking the other. LOL. Grow up cynics. Calzaghe and many have said it, Pavlik = Lacy mixed with Kessler all over again, Pavliks taylor made for Joe and a predictable win.
I would have fancied joe to beat pavlik in 06. Around the time he beat Lacy. Hes got old over night mayb?e, i could'nt imagine calzaghe ducking him either back then.
Its either a smart move by joe, or he just wants to fight roy jones first. Coz if theres a chance of him loosing to pavlik he wont be able to fight jones after that will he.
He could fight jones for the money, get £20million in the bank...... then see how it goes after the hopkins disaster then if hes feeling sharp, and in shape still he'll fight pavlik.
And if he fought Pavlik the RJJ fans would say he bitched out of a fight with Roy. You see how pointless this argument is.
And Roy initiated negotiations long before Pavlik did.
If Pavlik really wanted Calz he should have tried to set it up immediately after the BHop fight like Roy did.
He's retired. That means he wont fight Cotto!
So it's ok if Floyd fights ODLH twice for money and then Cotto but not if Calzaghe fights Roy Jones once for money and then Pavlik?
OMFG :lol1:
I don't defend cowards you should do the same!
Floyd and Cotto was NEVER close to becoming reality! but Arum and Warren was so close to makin Calz vs Pavlik until Calz chose to go after "Grey" Jones! If Floyd had been at the tables with Cotto's people then decided to take DLH, thats called being a COWARD not a business man! but Mr. Arum and Floyd NEVER had one conversation regarding he fighting Cotto! Like I fuckin said before, if Floyd would not have fought the Cotto-Tony winner after DLH then his ass would've been gone!! it is what it is!
I simply cannot understand where all this delusion comes from?:ugh:
Now, Calzaghe is ducking Pavlik???:nonono: So, a guy who is a brand new Middleweight champ with one defense of his title is suddenly the only guy who is eligible to fight Calzaghe who has only ever fought at Supermiddleweight and now is fighting at LHW? What the f*ck is wrong with all of you freaks?
How is Calzaghe ducking Pavlik? He's right when he says that Pavlik is too new. He's only just won his title and had one defense. How does that make him the lead runner for a superfight at Light Heavyweight? If you think they're going to fight at some catchweight around 166 or even 168 you're demented. Calzaghe is not going to go back down. He's staying at LHW and Pavlik didn't look that crash hot at 166 against Taylor in the second fight.
Isn't the definition of some ducking another fighter when one of them pursues a fight with the other guy for a long time and is his number one contender? Pavlik is a f*cking Middleweight for gods sake! Calzaghe is now fighting at LHW! Pavlik is also one of the newest champs in the sport. Calzaghe is the oldest!
Thank you.
I'm not a big Calzhage fan and certainly would prefer a Pavlik fight over Roy Jones 'Junior'.
However to claim that Calzhage is 'ducking' Pavlik is crazy.
Do you REALLY think that Joe believes he'd lose to Pavlik because a very basic Lockett got rightfully smashed up?
Do you REALLY think Joe thinks he'd lose to anyone right now?
I'm not saying that Pavlik can't and won't beat him.
But do you REALLY think Joe is scared?
This decision purely comes down to cash and misguided legacy concerns.
Why didn't you terminate Floyd for ducking Cotto? Double standards...:bottle:
If Floyd would have not fought Cotto after DLH, his ass would've got terminated to!
Calzaghe being a lil bitch about it. Take the fucking fight, get KOed by Pavlik, then retire. That's all you gotta do. So now sign the dotted line and stop acting like it's Pavlik who doesn't want the fight when he asked the ENTIRE crowd if he should fight him, and everyone agreed. Pavlik will sign the fight as soon as the contract is made, don't worry about that. I think, they used Lockett as a, let's see just how real Pavlik is and they found out the hard way after Pavlik dominated Lockett who I think Enzo thought was better than what happened. Then Enzo goes and asks Lockett how you think his son would fair in the fight and Lockett says don't risk it, guy is tough and hits hard. So now they tryin to find any bullshit to stay away. Pussies, lost all respect for Cal.
Dam! Thats EXACTLY how I think it happened! just like that!!
So he's obviously justified for fighting Jones then? As you say... Jones will "knock him out".
Kball is just an idiot, he needs to pull Pavliks balls outta his mouth so he can speak properly.
I simply cannot understand where all this delusion comes from?:ugh:
Now, Calzaghe is ducking Pavlik???:nonono: So, a guy who is a brand new Middleweight champ with one defense of his title is suddenly the only guy who is eligible to fight Calzaghe who has only ever fought at Supermiddleweight and now is fighting at LHW? What the f*ck is wrong with all of you freaks?
How is Calzaghe ducking Pavlik? He's right when he says that Pavlik is too new. He's only just won his title and had one defense. How does that make him the lead runner for a superfight at Light Heavyweight? If you think they're going to fight at some catchweight around 166 or even 168 you're demented. Calzaghe is not going to go back down. He's staying at LHW and Pavlik didn't look that crash hot at 166 against Taylor in the second fight.
Isn't the definition of some ducking another fighter when one of them pursues a fight with the other guy for a long time and is his number one contender? Pavlik is a f*cking Middleweight for gods sake! Calzaghe is now fighting at LHW! Pavlik is also one of the newest champs in the sport. Calzaghe is the oldest!
Damn, I was once a fan of Calzaghe until he did this bitch move where he says he is retiring after he beats a shot roy jones jr. I'd laugh my ass of if roy pulls off the upset, just because Calzaghe is a clown with a hand picked resume of overrated fighters. Best name on Calzaghes resume is Eubank, Hopkins didn't look good against winky either because Hopkins is shotttttttt to pieces too. Calzaghe is a bitch, and I hope the worse for him. In history books they will write how much of a pussy he was ducking fighters like Pavlik, fuck right now I think even taylor whoops the crap out of Calzaghe. Calzaghes defense isn't even that good he got hit with some bombs by that overrated jeff lacy at times in his dominate performance over him.
If Hopkins can knock Calzaghe down, I wonder what Pavlik could do.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/graphics/2008/04/20/uogarside120.jpg
http://www.hbo.com/boxing/img/events/2007/0929_taylor_pavlik/482x316/action2/action08_wh_482x316.jpg
This is what would have happened to fraud Calzaghe if he got in the ring with Pavlik, but probably in the first round since he probably doesn't have bigger balls then Taylor.
Hopkins isn't shot but he did look old towards the end of the fight.
Styles make fights, Hopkins' style would frustrate anyone while making his opponents look bad in the process. Pavlik's style is totally different from Hopkins'.
And Taylor wouldn't beat Calzaghe.
Calzaghe is a big step up for Pavlik, he's on a whole different level from the opposition Pavlik has fought, I don't think Calzaghe is ducking him.
It would have been an interesting fight though.
I was really looking forward to calzaghe beat pavlik so then all the pavlik nuthuggers would disapper and stop claming him to be the best thing in boxing since ring girls seriously Imo calzaghe easily beats pavlik by UD. c'mon palvik is the same fighter as kessler but not as good.
hopefully calzaghe beats roy jones (another great fighter) and then beats Pavlik and puts a stop to all the pavlik hype if your going to be a nuthugger at least nuthug a world class fighter and not a hype machine.
dont get me wrong I have no problem with non biased fans of pavlik but people who think pavlik is the bomb and unbeatable and has no flaws and dont give any other fighters credit piss me off.
I really dont see any Pavlik dickriders on this forum..
sure there are fans, but not dickriders
Joe Calzaghe on the other hand, well, lerk the forums and youll see the same bullshit by his cheerleaders.. hes better than a prime roy.. bla bla la.. fuck that shit son..
A Mayorga fight would be so damn meaningless. Maybe I'm the only one who has had enough of his share of fun watching Mayorga get his face mopped all over the ring and his loud mouth shut for the umpthteen time? Enough already. Pavlik is close to achieving greatness at such a young age, but if the promoters don't act on it, it'll slip. I think Pavlik gives anyone hell while he's in his current prime years, but he has to act now on these fights. He's tough as hell, durable, decent boxing skills, and hits hard as hell.
It was pretty obvious that it was Arum that didn't want the fight. Just watch the press conference for fucks sake.
"Yeah yeah, negotiations are going well, now stand up here and take a stare down photo with Rubio Kelly!"
It was obvious that Arum was trying to blow smoke up our asses. Anyone with half a brain could see that the only thing on his mind was getting Kelly a fight with Rubio.
I think it is Arum trying to lock up many things for Pavlik. He tried for Joe (you can tell from Joe and Lockett's statements the last couple days) but has Rubio as a failsafe. He is probably looking into other options also. I even heard Mayorga mentioned.
It is not always easy to get the big fish on your first try, so it helps to have something lined up as backup to keep Pavlik busy.
It was pretty obvious that it was Arum that didn't want the fight. Just watch the press conference for fucks sake.
"Yeah yeah, negotiations are going well, now stand up here and take a stare down photo with Rubio Kelly!"
It was obvious that Arum was trying to blow smoke up our asses. Anyone with half a brain could see that the only thing on his mind was getting Kelly a fight with Rubio.
are you aware that the sole reason Gary Lockett was chosen for the Pavlik fight was because he is trained by Enzo Calzaghe, which would create a side-story for the Pavlik fight?
Any "uncertainty" u heard in Arums voice was just boredom from having to answer the same question 5,000 times.
Calzaghe being a lil bitch about it. Take the fucking fight, get KOed by Pavlik, then retire. That's all you gotta do. So now sign the dotted line and stop acting like it's Pavlik who doesn't want the fight when he asked the ENTIRE crowd if he should fight him, and everyone agreed. Pavlik will sign the fight as soon as the contract is made, don't worry about that. I think, they used Lockett as a, let's see just how real Pavlik is and they found out the hard way after Pavlik dominated Lockett who I think Enzo thought was better than what happened. Then Enzo goes and asks Lockett how you think his son would fair in the fight and Lockett says don't risk it, guy is tough and hits hard. So now they tryin to find any bullshit to stay away. Pussies, lost all respect for Cal.
Not only does he clearly duck Pavlik, a fight he knows he would get killed in, he wasnt even classy about it.
Normally, guys like Mayweather, they duck but they do it with some class. Mayweather gave Cotto his props.
Calzaghe said that it was PAVLIK who didnt want to fight HIM?!?!?! Wtf. PAVLIK was asking for it, Arum was asking for it and said negotiations were going great, Warren even wanted it... CALZAGHE was the only one that didnt want the fight!!!! And he has the balls to say it was Pavlik who didn't want it? LOL.
And then he goes on to say that he is to big a step up for Pavlik??? Pavlik, who JUST became champ less then a year ago, ALREADY practically has an equal pedegree. I mean, taylor twice and Miranda and Zertucheis as good as Kessler and a 43 year old Hopkins. Calzaghe has a bit better ledger... but he has been champ for 10 YEARS!!!!! lol
Calzaghe is HARDLY a big step up, and now the pavlik-Calzaghe superfight will never happen, because Roy Jones is OBVIOUSLY going to knock the crap outta Calzaghe. what a mismatch that is
It was pretty obvious that it was Arum that didn't want the fight. Just watch the press conference for fucks sake.
"Yeah yeah, negotiations are going well, now stand up here and take a stare down photo with Rubio Kelly!"
It was obvious that Arum was trying to blow smoke up our asses. Anyone with half a brain could see that the only thing on his mind was getting Kelly a fight with Rubio.
Pavlik is nothing special. He's Diego Corrales with a better chin, which makes him highly enjoyable, but his fans overrate him insanely. I'm a huge Corrales fan, but I never said he could beat anybody he clearly couldn't.
No, Diego was much quicker, relatively speaking.