..WILLIAMS And COTTO: The Hypocrisy...

Cotto and Marg have to do business wit each other before either of them can duck or accept a fight wit anybody else. And I doubt either one of them, win, lose, or draw would refuse to fight Williams. It's a tough challenge for Cotto and a revenge challenge for Marg. If PBF ireally is retired, let him be retired and don't worry anymore about all the shit he said and did/didn't do. The best will fight the best at WW and someone will prove themselves to be the boss. To fight fans that's what really matters. I totally agree. And it seems in the case of Williams fighting Margarito or Cotto, so do Williams fans. They just didn't when Mayweather was in the Cotto (or Margarito) position. I was pointing out the hypocrisy of the whole thing. Believe me, I wouldn't mind seeing Williams take on either Margarito or Cotto AT ALL.

Cotto and Marg have to do business wit each other before either of them can duck or accept a fight wit anybody else. And I doubt either one of them, win, lose, or draw would refuse to fight Williams. It's a tough challenge for Cotto and a revenge challenge for Marg. If PBF ireally is retired, let him be retired and don't worry anymore about all the shit he said and did/didn't do. The best will fight the best at WW and someone will prove themselves to be the boss. To fight fans that's what really matters.

Mosley should fight Williams - if he wins he will definitely spark some noise. But Paul williams on an "off night" in a 12 rounder?? I dont think so. He gave his all but quintana took it too em, its a geat fight to watch. If he didnt catch quintana early it wouldve exciting. Quintana shouldve had his guard up.

Hey C-Drone, here's something I wrote in one of Horus' that has more or less the same point you make: Ever since Williams won to Quintana yesterday, Horus and every Floyd fan has been acting like he is the greatest of them all, that he will beat Cotto and dominate the division. What is funny is that fans like Horus contradict themselves because they demand Cotto to do somethings like fight P4P fighters and top contenders (which by the way he is doing) but you didn't see Floyd Mayweather doing that and we all know Horus was his biggest fan, then we have claims that Cotto is overhyped because he knocked a lot of lightweights, but Cotto has never fought a lightweight, he has fought light welterweights and welterweights, then they say Cotto should stop fighting people's remains since he is fighting Margarito and Paul Williams deafeated Margarito but then again remind me who it was that beat Paul Williams and it took another fight so he could defeat him? Was it someone that Cotto had already deafeated? Then there's all this new Williams fight who were Floyd fans saying that Cotto is either ducking Williams or that Cotto should fight Williams and clear out the division, these are the same members who critized fans for trying to look for someone to deafeat Mayweahter, and now that Mayweather is gone they are trying to find fighters to defeat Cotto, and by the way just to make sure, Cotto is not ducking or avoiding Williams, he is concentrated on his July fight against Antonio Margarito, after that he will fight Williams sooner than you think. Like I said stop being hypocrites and give Cotto the credit he deserves, because it is these members discrediting Cotto's wins that leads other members to "overhype" Cotto the same way that some members overhyped Floyd Mayweather and are now overhyping Paul Williams.

Excellent post, my sentiments exactly, I was going to write something like this myself but you expresed yourself better than I ever could. Green K for you. Thanks, appreciate the K.

NOTE: I'm speaking in a generalized way. I'm talking about the average fan(atic), not the rare exception. I've noticed three things about the Paul 'The Punisher' Williams fans on this site. First of all, they all seem to likie Floyd Mayweather. Secondly, they they don't seem to be fans of Miguel Cotto. Finally, most want him to replace Floyd Mayweather as the best fighter inn the world are are quick to push him into the spot. Right off the top of the bat, that's not a problem. You can like who you like, root for who you want and dislike whoever you feel sucks. I have no problem with that. The problem comes into play when Williams fans get VERY hypocritical. There are three types of people I hate in this world.... Liars, cheaters and hypocrites. And A LOT of these Williams fans are ENTIRELY hypocritical. One of the major ways that A LOT of these fans have shown their hypocritical ways is by 'demanding' that the winner of Antonio Margarito and Cotto fight Williams. Claiming that they would need to prove themselves against 'the beast' in the division. And I agree with this sentiment, ENTIRELY. Here where the Williams nuthuggers and I start to have problems. He beat the guy that Mayweather wouldn't fight and wins a competitive but clear fight and then moves on to Quintana. In terms of a TRUE test, anyway. He then LOSES to Quintana, a guy that had been BROKEN DOWN by Cotto and some write him off. Which I never agreed with. Then he comes back and catches Quintana early, sits down on his shots and takes him out powerfully in the first round. And all of a sudden, that makes him the divisions top dog? Yet, Cotto, as stated, already took out Quintana, is fighting Margarito and fought Mosley before Mayweather wanted anything to do with him. So, Williams fans demand Cotto or Margarito fight him. Yet, when Mayweather was at the top, a guy that most Williams fans love, they never bought into that public demand thing. 'Fight who makes money, it's a business. I suck Floyds dick.' Is what most of the Floydboys would say. Cotto didn't sell the number of PPVs that Mayweather did. Didn't bring in the attendance that Mayweather did. Did have the crossover appeal that Mayweather did. Well, Williams/Floyd fans, Cotto is the star now. Williams doesn't bring the PPV number that Cotto has. Certainly couldn't sell out madison Square Garden. And Cotto lives in another country and has a endorsement deal with Ecko. Not to mention all the offers/deals he has going in his homeland. Now I know some Floyd fans will say, 'Floyd is different. He's all time, Cotto is just making his mark.' The reason I don't buy that is that Mayweather MAY BE all time, but the BEST all time fighters, fought EVERYONE they could. The exclamation point was never big enough for the TRUE greatest of all time fighters. That's why Mayweather, if he stays retired, will NEVER break the top 30 all time. Back to my point, it's somehow different because you HAPPEN to like Williams more. Williams can become the p4p champ to a lot of you, when alls he's down is something that Cotto has already done, or is more likely about to do. Cotto might lose, and I wouldn't be entirely surprised. It's a pick 'em fight. But until then, Williams hasn't done much special. He's a good fighter, fun to watch and is virtually undefeated due to the redemption factor. HOWEVER, Cotto hasn't had to do that, and on his WORST night (against Torres) he adjusted DURING the fight. Yet, he's not able to be as great as Williams in some ridiculous way. That's insane, and stupid. Excellent post, my sentiments exactly, I was going to write something like this myself but you expresed yourself better than I ever could. Green K for you.

Until Cotto beats Margarito, that name is more impressive then Mosley or Judah. There's a reason Mosley and Mayweather didn't want to fight Cotto for large money. I'd take Judah and Mosley or Margarito, anyday. First of all. Second of all, he's already fighting him, and I doubt he'd deny a fight with Paul Williams. He actually WANTS to fight the best. All I'm saying is, Cotto has proven more, whereas Williams is PROVING that he's a really good fighter. Big difference. Yet, Williams already gets that credit and Cotto is denied. You don't have to like Cotto to give him credit. Yet, hardly any Williams/Mayweather fans will do that.

Good post. Beating Carlos Quintana does not make Wlliams the man at all. Cotto did exactly the same thing and has Mosley and Judah on his resume too. Very soon he might have Antonio Margarito. Right now, and if he beats Margarito, Cotto is the man. However, we shouldn't take away from Williams. He has beaten Margarito himself with a very impressive performance, and it now looks very much as though his "off night" against Quintana was exactly that, an off night. Those who wrote him off afterwards did so far too quickly. This is clearly a man with the potential to make real noise at welterweight, and whoever wins between Cotto and Margarito will have to think about facing him soon enough if they want to clean out the division and rise indisputably to the top. It wouldn't be a case of beating the man to be the man, but of beating all the other men to be the man. You can't be the indisputable best in your division until you've beaten all the guys who might beat you. Right now Paul Williams is definitely one of those guys.

if it's okay for cotto/marg to duck williams then why isn't ok for floyd to duck cotto/marg? he's actually saying why is it the other way around. and Cotto hasnt denied a fight with Williams as of yet because he has one on july 26th. these dudes demanding this shit have thrown all respectability out the window. someone is mad.

if it's okay for cotto/marg to duck williams then why isn't ok for floyd to duck cotto/marg?

NOTE: I'm speaking in a generalized way. I'm talking about the average fan(atic), not the rare exception. I've noticed three things about the Paul 'The Punisher' Williams fans on this site. First of all, they all seem to likie Floyd Mayweather. Secondly, they they don't seem to be fans of Miguel Cotto. Finally, most want him to replace Floyd Mayweather as the best fighter inn the world are are quick to push him into the spot. Right off the top of the bat, that's not a problem. You can like who you like, root for who you want and dislike whoever you feel sucks. I have no problem with that. The problem comes into play when Williams fans get VERY hypocritical. There are three types of people I hate in this world.... Liars, cheaters and hypocrites. And A LOT of these Williams fans are ENTIRELY hypocritical. One of the major ways that A LOT of these fans have shown their hypocritical ways is by 'demanding' that the winner of Antonio Margarito and Cotto fight Williams. Claiming that they would need to prove themselves against 'the beast' in the division. And I agree with this sentiment, ENTIRELY. Here where the Williams nuthuggers and I start to have problems. He beat the guy that Mayweather wouldn't fight and wins a competitive but clear fight and then moves on to Quintana. In terms of a TRUE test, anyway. He then LOSES to Quintana, a guy that had been BROKEN DOWN by Cotto and some write him off. Which I never agreed with. Then he comes back and catches Quintana early, sits down on his shots and takes him out powerfully in the first round. And all of a sudden, that makes him the divisions top dog? Yet, Cotto, as stated, already took out Quintana, is fighting Margarito and fought Mosley before Mayweather wanted anything to do with him. So, Williams fans demand Cotto or Margarito fight him. Yet, when Mayweather was at the top, a guy that most Williams fans love, they never bought into that public demand thing. 'Fight who makes money, it's a business. I suck Floyds dick.' Is what most of the Floydboys would say. Cotto didn't sell the number of PPVs that Mayweather did. Didn't bring in the attendance that Mayweather did. Did have the crossover appeal that Mayweather did. Well, Williams/Floyd fans, Cotto is the star now. Williams doesn't bring the PPV number that Cotto has. Certainly couldn't sell out madison Square Garden. And Cotto lives in another country and has a endorsement deal with Ecko. Not to mention all the offers/deals he has going in his homeland. Now I know some Floyd fans will say, 'Floyd is different. He's all time, Cotto is just making his mark.' The reason I don't buy that is that Mayweather MAY BE all time, but the BEST all time fighters, fought EVERYONE they could. The exclamation point was never big enough for the TRUE greatest of all time fighters. That's why Mayweather, if he stays retired, will NEVER break the top 30 all time. Back to my point, it's somehow different because you HAPPEN to like Williams more. Williams can become the p4p champ to a lot of you, when alls he's down is something that Cotto has already done, or is more likely about to do. Cotto might lose, and I wouldn't be entirely surprised. It's a pick 'em fight. But until then, Williams hasn't done much special. He's a good fighter, fun to watch and is virtually undefeated due to the redemption factor. HOWEVER, Cotto hasn't had to do that, and on his WORST night (against Torres) he adjusted DURING the fight. Yet, he's not able to be as great as Williams in some ridiculous way. That's insane, and stupid. Williams and Cotto fan fight here, not a Mayweather fan right here..............