Someone posted a video of a Kickboxer destroying a Boxer as proof that Boxers suck...

I think it's funny that people say boxers can't compete with MMA fighters.. when Kimbo Slice is nothig but a street fighter who mostly has used weak stand up game and is headlining Elite XC and UFC cards.. Kimbo Slice is a nobody in MMA in terms of accomplishments. He just has a high profile due to Youtube. Thompson had him in real trouble, and by in trouble I mean, Thompson was besting Kimbo in areas that are not Thompson's strengths. Thompson is not a good grappler, but was out-grappling Kimbo. Kimbo would not beat any top 20 heavyweight in MMA, it's pointless using him as an example as to why boxers could succeed in MMA. In a few years when the heavyweight talent pool deepens as more people start training MMA, Kimbo would be probably unable to crack the top 100. And Kimbo has never fought for the UFC. I think the main argument as to why MMA fighters are better fighters is because they can beat boxers in a realm where boxers aren't limited. If an MMA fighter goes into boxing and gets beaten, so what? No one believes a top level MMA fighter could outbox a top boxer because the MMA fighter is drastically limited in what tools he can use. A boxer is not limited in an MMA fight, so in my eyes, if boxers want to prove they are the best fighters, it is they who should be stepping into the MMA world, not the other way around.

Good point as well. I think a boxer would have a harder time with a kickboxer than someone in MMA who's main strength is grappling, for example. I realize once a boxer were to get taken down it would be over but I would still give the boxer a descent chance while both men or on their feet.

While neither should like win in their opponenets sport, the boxer has the better chance. Since MMA or kickboxing both incorporate boxing the boxer has the edge over them in this aspect. If you place an MMA or kickboxer in a boxing match they have NOTHING over the boxer. Good point. But to be honest a kick boxer/thai boxer can easily go a round without allowing a boxer to get near enough to land land a punch from proper use of kicking techniques. So this kind of takes away the "better chance". And yea your completely right that any person from whatever fighting style they may come from will have nothing over a boxer in a BOXING match as has been mentioned earlier. Same way a boxer would have nothing over the local drunk in a drinking competition lol

thats nothing, look at what happens to a top kickboxer, Ray Sefo, when he fights a mediocre boxer... this guy is decent in kickboxing, but not as good as Sefo. hes known mostly for his hard head and mostly only punches in his kickboxing matches... ...but he gets his jaw broken by a bum. and then look at Frans Botha, who was ok in boxing, but nothing special. after he retired from boxing, he went into kickboxing. as you can see in the clips, he is much older, and much fatter. ...despite him getting older and much fatter, he still has wins over two of the top kickboxers in the history of K-1, Peter Aerts and Jerome LeBanner. I know I know, the Aerts one was due to an injury, but still. injuries happen in boxing too, its part of the sport. you can pull up plenty of videos of Botha losing as well, but on the other hand, hes not exactly in his prime, nor the best that boxing has to offer...while he IS up against the best kickboxing has to offer. so all in all, its not impossible for a boxer to have success in kickboxing. nor is it completely impossible for a kickboxer to be successful in boxing, although overall I would say they are not going to be able to do as well. but these guys should stay in the sports they belong in, otherwise its a complete waste of their talent! thats the main point everyone should focus on.

This was a while ago.. Well, here is a Kick Boxer turned Boxer. Just like in the first video, the kickboxer (terdzak) is bigger and ovbiously stronger than the Boxer (JMM), but things end differently than in the first video.. ignore the homo ass music another kickboxer trying to make it in boxing.. the first video was sad to watch. but why the comparison? its like saying, a soccer player wouldn't last in basketball. its a useless comparison really. kick boxers would get beat in boxing and boxers would get beat in kick boxing. simple. really dumbass comparison.

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we need to stop these mma vs. boxer , kickboxer vs. boxer threads. it's just ignorant. think of it this way...... will a great amateur boxer always be a great pro boxer? every great pro boxer has been a great amateur boxer? no. think of all the great amateurs that weren't great pros. how many times have we seen a pro boxer beat the same guy they lose to in the amateurs. why? because of different rules. see how different rules make a difference? and it's the SAME sport!!!!!

there's no point in this thread. so if a nba guy dunks on a chicago cub shortstop , the nba is better? if someone from machester united scores a goal on a ncaa linebacker as a goalie? if a nhl player outskates a boxer , hockey is better skilled? if hockey players in the nhl make more money than a soccer player from the l.a. galaxy , hockey is superior to soccer? apples and oranges. can a kickboxer outbox a boxer? doubtful. can a boxer out kickbox a kickboxer? maybe. it all depends on the person. if mike tyson studied kickboxing i'd bet you he'd be a monster at kickboxing too. kickboxing is similar to boxing. there some parts of kickboxing and boxing in mma. but they're all different. obviously those more familiar with their respective sport would more than likely beat someone else in another sport at it.

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you're absolutely right, but the original author of the post felt he needed to prove that boxers were ultimately inferior fighters of all combat sports. Francois Botha went to K-1 and competed with the worlds best in kickboxing despite the fact Botha was a washed up, old boxer. The best kickboxers have ventured into boxing and got destroyed. Mighty Mo got his jaw broken in the 1st round and Ray Sefo got KO'd by a journeyman boxer. They are different but somewhat similar sports. LOL. The bottom line is a boxer has a huge asset in that they have incredibly handspeed, footwork and defense. When you look at muay thai fighters they have nowhere the defense that a professional boxer has. And they also dont know how to punch properly. However, they obviously have more weapons at their disposal. Boxers would need to learn how to check and defend against kicks to be able beat a kickboxer and its not as hard as you think. I think a boxer can make a much easier transition to K-1 than a kickboxer to boxing.

I think it's funny that people say boxers can't compete with MMA fighters.. when Kimbo Slice is nothig but a street fighter who mostly has used weak stand up game and is headlining Elite XC and UFC cards.. his not in the ufc. he's in elite xc. elite xc is like the wbf compared to the wbc. he's not even a champion and almost lost to a mediocre mma fighter who was like 1-5 in his last 6 fights. that's why they've been hand feeding other one dimensional strikers , they know he can't hang with the groundgame. he's only there for the publicity because he's famous on the internet.

While neither should like win in their opponenets sport, the boxer has the better chance. Since MMA or kickboxing both incorporate boxing the boxer has the edge over them in this aspect. If you place an MMA or kickboxer in a boxing match they have NOTHING over the boxer.

Good looking out with the vids. But correct me if i'm wrong...doesn't this just prove if a kickboxer was to step into a boxer's field of just boxing that the boxer would be better? I always thought that was obvious and the main argument would have centred around the issue of both arts against eachother? A kick boxer/thai boxer who is just boxing is being restricted of their other weapons, thus stepping into the comfort zone of a boxer to begin with? So it would be like a boxer having a boxing rules fight with an MMA fighter...then beating the MMA fighter leading people to conclude that boxing must be better than MMA (this is just an example) you're absolutely right, but the original author of the post felt he needed to prove that boxers were ultimately inferior fighters of all combat sports.

I think it's funny that people say boxers can't compete with MMA fighters.. when Kimbo Slice is nothig but a street fighter who mostly has used weak stand up game and is headlining Elite XC and UFC cards..

Didn't Shannon Briggs go to K-1 and win a fight in Japan?

Good looking out with the vids. But correct me if i'm wrong...doesn't this just prove if a kickboxer was to step into a boxer's field of just boxing that the boxer would be better? I always thought that was obvious and the main argument would have centred around the issue of both arts against eachother? A kick boxer/thai boxer who is just boxing is being restricted of their other weapons, thus stepping into the comfort zone of a boxer to begin with? So it would be like a boxer having a boxing rules fight with an MMA fighter...then beating the MMA fighter leading people to conclude that boxing must be better than MMA (this is just an example)

here is a better video of the ponce de leon fight:

Different sports like MMA and Boxing. But alot depends on the opponent. A top boxer could destroy a journeyman Kickboxer and vice-versa.

I saw Sod Lonknongyangtoy get his ass knocked out live! I thought he was dead!