If Cotto KOS (margarito) him he will be ranked p4p #1.
FMJ is the p4p #1 right now but I don't think he is the best WW. That will be decided next month. I don't think FMJ could beat Cotto, PW or AM and it would be very interestng to see hi fight CC.....
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Which Margarito is better Status Wise..The One that Fought Paul Williams or the one that will fight Miguel Cotto..???
So if Cotto becomes the best fighter in the world after he just got through beating Alfonzo Gomez and then Antonio Margarito...
What will Margarito be if he beats Cotto...????
A Top 3 or 5 fighter in the world and sport...???
Since when does beating Margarito becomes such a huge accomplishment....and deserving of p4p# 1 status..??
Paul Williams Margarito
What happen to Paul Williams after he beat Margarito...???
Did he even get in the top 10 p4p..??
And this right after Margarito beat a 30-1 Joshua Clottey and undefeated Kermit Cintron for the first time.....
(A PRIME Margarito)... when he had (the most feared man in the world tag)
Cotto Margarito
But Cotto becomes P4P #1 fighter in the sport if he beat A Margarito who last two wins was against Golden Johnson ( WORLD CLASS BUM) and a repeat victory over kermet Cintron...?????:sad:
Explain How This Margarito is better then the Margarito Paul Williams Fought Status wise...if you compare to the two fighters Margarito fought before he fought each fighter.....????
Paul Williams vs. Margarito ( Clottey, undefeated Cintron)
Miguel Cotto vs. Margarito ( Golden Johnson, repeat victory over Cintron)
THIS SHOULD BE INTERESTING..!!!
Which Margarito is better Status Wise..The One that Fought Paul Williams or the one that will fight Miguel Cotto..???
Explain How This Margarito is better then the Margarito Paul Williams Fought Status wise...if you compare to the two fighters Margarito fought before he fought each fighter.....????
Paul Williams vs. Margarito ( Clottey, undefeated Cintron)
Miguel Cotto vs. Margarito ( Golden Johnson, repeat victory over Cintron)
:boxing: fight night...
So I can't answer because the fight hasn't happened yet.
lol how in the hell are we supposed to know what kind of effort Cotto puts up? Nobody knows what version will show up.
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Depends on the manner of victory. I think that Marg sees this as his career defining fight, hence he should put everything on the line! Against P will he froze in the 1st half of the fight and came on strong. Status wise i don't see much difference in Marg before both fights. here's hoping for a great fight !!!!!!!
Judah turned down a williams fight and you are right, he did lose to quintana, but williams ended up blasting him in the 1st round, thus it kind of answered any questions about his ability to beat him, hed probably do more of the same in the rematch.
Yeah my argument wasn't really whether Williams deserves credit or not, but more that Cotto's fought better competition and has been blazing a nice little trail on his way to the Margarito fight.
Williams kind of just came out of nowhere as an unknown and was kind of a style mismatch for him (a la Forrest-Mosley). I don't think Margarito even wins a rematch with Williams.
If he had beaten Judah and Mosley right before that Margarito fight, then yes, he would have been in the top 10 p4p.
Not to mention he later lost to Quintana (who Cotto demolished).
Judah turned down a williams fight and you are right, he did lose to quintana, but williams ended up blasting him in the 1st round, thus it kind of answered any questions about his ability to beat him, hed probably do more of the same in the rematch.
I still stand by my point that the Margarito Paul williams beat is better than the margarito that is fighting cotto...status and pre opponent wise..
Then you're just outright wrong. I know you do this for the sake of argument and to ruffle some feathers, but come on now.
What happen to Paul Williams after he beat Margarito...???
Did he even get in the top 10 p4p..??
If he had beaten Judah and Mosley right before that Margarito fight, then yes, he would have been in the top 10 p4p.
Not to mention he later lost to Quintana (who Cotto demolished).
ANSWER ME THIS
Which Margarito is better Status Wise..The One that Fought Paul Williams or the one that will fight Miguel Cotto..???
So if Cotto becomes the best fighter in the world after he just got through beating Alfonzo Gomez and then Antonio Margarito...
What will Margarito be if he beats Cotto...????
A Top 3 or 5 fighter in the world and sport...???
Since when does beating Margarito becomes such a huge accomplishment....and deserving of p4p# 1 status..??
Paul Williams Margarito
What happen to Paul Williams after he beat Margarito...???
Did he even get in the top 10 p4p..??
And this right after Margarito beat a 30-1 Joshua Clottey and undefeated Kermit Cintron for the first time.....
(A PRIME Margarito)... when he had (the most feared man in the world tag)
Cotto Margarito
But Cotto becomes P4P #1 fighter in the sport if he beat A Margarito who last two wins was against Golden Johnson ( WORLD CLASS BUM) and a repeat victory over kermet Cintron...?????:sad:
Explain How This Margarito is better then the Margarito Paul Williams Fought Status wise...if you compare to the two fighters Margarito fought before he fought each fighter.....????
Paul Williams vs. Margarito ( Clottey, undefeated Cintron)
Miguel Cotto vs. Margarito ( Golden Johnson, repeat victory over Cintron)
THIS SHOULD BE INTERESTING..!!!
the margarito v. cotto...easily.
The Margarito who fought Williams and the Margarito who fought Cotto is still the same Margarito skill wise and in age. Now if you where to compare the De La Hoya who fought Mosley and the De La Hoya who fought Mayweather... then you would have a point.
See that's your double standard.. you try to say that the DLH who fought Mosley is just as good as the one who fought Mayweather and that's simple not the case.
With Margarito however that fight wasn't long ago.. he is still the same skill wise and age wise and he didn't lose all that lopsided against Williams and the fight was close.
yup, that's what I thought :owned: in his own thread again :D
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I still stand by my point that the Margarito Paul williams beat is better than the margarito that is fighting cotto...status and pre opponent wise..
The Margarito who fought Williams and the Margarito who fought Cotto is still the same Margarito skill wise and in age. Now if you where to compare the De La Hoya who fought Mosley and the De La Hoya who fought Mayweather... then you would have a point.
See that's your double standard.. you try to say that the DLH who fought Mosley is just as good as the one who fought Mayweather and that's simple not the case.
With Margarito however that fight wasn't long ago.. he is still the same skill wise and age wise and he didn't lose all that lopsided against Williams and the fight was close.
It depends on how he wins and it depends on whether or not Cotto goes on to lose an obvious decision to Carlos Quintanna immediately after.
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Which Margarito is better Status Wise..The One that Fought Paul Williams or the one that will fight Miguel Cotto..???
Explain How This Margarito is better then the Margarito Paul Williams Fought Status wise...if you compare to the two fighters Margarito fought before he fought each fighter.....????
Paul Williams vs. Margarito ( Clottey, undefeated Cintron)
Miguel Cotto vs. Margarito ( Golden Johnson, repeat victory over Cintron)
Miguel Cotto vs. Margatito...
Because, honestly (especially after the Clottey fight) I thought PW would blow margo away. Since the fight was close, margos stock went up. Had he started earlier, he would have had a good chance of winning.
But on paper, you are right. The margo vs PW looked better.
you don't get P4P status by beating one person.. Yeah Williams beat Margarito, it was a close fight too. Other then that what else has he done? He is 1-1 with Quintana and hasn't done anything else.. Cotto on the other hand has a more impressive campaigne and career thus if he beats Margo gets him closer to being P4P 1..
P4P rankings are bullshit anyway though.. it's all about being best in your division.
the difference is..is that margarito didnt just beat a clottey and a undefeated cintron but he beat him twice.. and when he fought paul williams he didnt lose a blowout fight he loss a close fight...paul williams didnt knock him out.. margarito fought 12 hard rounds against him where paul williams was being duck by many also..so the status of margarito has never dropped..
The Margarito that Cotto is fighting, and by far.
Margarito beat Cintron on ESPN, and then looked awful in his win against Clottey when he won a bad looking decision. Nobody knew who Clottey was either, or really even Cintron then either.
Then he dropped that close fight to Williams.
After Williams he destroyed Golden Johnson on a big PPV Cotto-Mosley undercard. Dont forget Johnson was coming fresh off a knockout win over highly touted prospect Oscar Diaz. Nobody really knew Johnson, but the devastating 1st round KO on that big stage drew attention. Then we had "the new" Kermit Cintron who rebuilt himself with Emmanuel Steward after the first loss and won a world title and gained some more experience, and no hand injury or lay off before the fight. Margarito scored a devastating KO over him on a big HBO card.
Margarito's status right now is way up there. After the Clottey fight his status was real low. And Williams fought him right after Clottey.
also if Cotto beats Margarito its way more impressive to me than Williams beating him. Williams is huge for that weight and he was still pretty much fighting a smaller man in Margarito. Margarito's main advantage over opponents is his size and power and Williams was bigger than him. Cotto is a lot smaller than Williams and Margarito's normal size advantage will be in full affect.
my thoughts
It's the same fighter. Styles make fights and it will depend on HOW Miguel Cotto beats him, if he does in fact beat him.
If Miguel Cotto gets his first L against Margarito, would you consider Williams better than Cotto (unless you do already)?