I think since 2005, its been illegal to like floyd mayweather

** Fair enough. The truth more complicated than what I tweaked. I can't say why Floydy chose to take short money against the Great Gatti instead of bigger money in a unified super title fight against Judah. What the hell was he thinking when he took 3 million to Mitchell's 100 grand to fight in an Oregan backwater other than this is easy money? I think Floydy knows he's overmatched physically at the weight. He can get away with this against an old, slow journeyman Baldy, and controversially eke out a decision over an older Oscar with his skill set, but he's skating on thin ice and he knows it. Might as well big himself up while he's got more public recognition and money the past two fights than his entire career combined. I doubt we will see him after this year or the next. Gatti is a very famous and loved fighter, I think that's why he was fighting him, also he knew he would look spectacular, whereas while Judah was not going to be a walk in the park showing off combos. In terms of making more money in his following fights, Gatti made a lot of sense. Mitchell was clearly a tune-up, let the body grow in the weight fight, in fact even against Judah, Mayweather did not gain a single pound from the weigh in. Which brings me randomly to the point that Hatton-Mayweather at 140 before Mayweather filled up to come on fight night at 150 would have been a different fight (maybe same outcome, but surely a different fight). Consider also how Hatton alleged hip problems reduced his mobility. A lot of people are very disappointed with this part of his career, but to me the worse part were exactly the fights between Castillo 2 and Judah. In that sequence the best version of Mayweather was matched against a bunch of inferior fighters. His best opponent from age 25 to 29 was Corley... now, that's sad. I know he had a few problems in those years (adapting to new trainers, charges), but it's still sad, and being suspended from boxing or a detached retina are much more digestible reasons for me to endure the “loss” of the best years of a great fighter. On the other hand Zoo was inactive for most of that time, Arum would not let a green Cotto nowhere near anyone of Mayweather's caliber, and Hatton needed “a couple more fights”. The reality of what happened is to blame on most parties involved, not just one, as it is usually the case. Mayweather should not fight at 147, his right weight was at 140, where he could have stayed and dominate for a long time. The reason he moved up is once again $$$, mostly under the name of O$car. I think his skills and intensity in training are stuff from the past, with respect to his boxing brain he really is a man among boys in today's boxing. Because of this I like his chances against any of these big welterweights. All the trash talk from his family on how skills and smarts win fights is annoying but they do have a major point. No fighter out there is as smart and complete as he is, ”pound for pound“ he is much better than the Cottos and Margaritos of the world. The real question is “is he 10-15 pounds better than they are?” because that's what separates them.

You know I like your writing, but that doesnt change the fact that you stated he waited for Judah to lose, which is hard to back up in light of the contract being signed before Judah lost. ** Fair enough. The truth more complicated than what I tweaked. I can't say why Floydy chose to take short money against the Great Gatti instead of bigger money in a unified super title fight against Judah. What the hell was he thinking when he took 3 million to Mitchell's 100 grand to fight in an Oregan backwater other than this is easy money? I think Floydy knows he's overmatched physically at the weight. He can get away with this against an old, slow journeyman Baldy, and controversially eke out a decision over an older Oscar with his skill set, but he's skating on thin ice and he knows it. Might as well big himself up while he's got more public recognition and money the past two fights than his entire career combined. I doubt we will see him after this year or the next.

** My dearie, Judah was trying to make a fight with Floydy for the undisputed welter title 4 months before Floydy/Gatti which Floydy almost queered because of his legal problems. Almost an entire year before Judah Baldy. Not only did the so called best p4p fighter in the world take short money against The Great Gatti, he turned down his biggest payday and a chance to fight for a unified belt against Judah. Floydy just the p4p houseboy obviously, and you dear chaps challenged to follow the lineal calender of time. Floydy a great boxer, but obviously don't want to fight the best for some time now. Oh, Oscar'll be another big challenge for him, but not as much as the top 6 welters would be. Heck, I don't mind if he wants to cash in on the Oscar sweepstakes. Just don't call him the best. You know I like your writing, but that doesnt change the fact that you stated he waited for Judah to lose, which is hard to back up in light of the contract being signed before Judah lost. And Mayweather is the best out there now, maybe just because the other p4p runner-ups are not doing much better fighting old people above their prime weight class. As I said he is the best out there NOW, but as far as history goes the word Robinson should not even be mentioned in the era of 40 fights careers. Mayweather like others before him has skills that are pretious and rare merchandise, but he has less than 40 fights...

Judah-Mayweather was signed BEFORE Judah lost to Baldo. Dismissed. ** My dearie, Judah was trying to make a fight with Floydy for the undisputed welter title 4 months before Floydy/Gatti which Floydy almost queered because of his legal problems. Almost an entire year before Judah Baldy. Not only did the so called best p4p fighter in the world take short money against The Great Gatti, he turned down his biggest payday and a chance to fight for a unified belt against Judah. Floydy just the p4p houseboy obviously, and you dear chaps challenged to follow the lineal calender of time. Floydy a great boxer, but obviously don't want to fight the best for some time now. Oh, Oscar'll be another big challenge for him, but not as much as the top 6 welters would be. Heck, I don't mind if he wants to cash in on the Oscar sweepstakes. Just don't call him the best.

LMAO.. you have already lost this argument child. now you are merely rambling :bottle: lol No comeback for a few posts = you lost (I apologize to the rest of the board for pointing out the obvious)

LOL... WEAK.... is that why he is BACK AGAIN AT 140?? No, that's because fighters at 140 dont come in at 160, like Cotto, Margarito, Williams... A pathetic reply from you, as usual...

He is back at 140 because its easier competition. Jesus Christ thanks for explaining in simple words

LOL... WEAK.... is that why he is BACK AGAIN AT 140?? He is back at 140 because its easier competition.

Hatton is better at 140, FACT, why are you even trying to argue that? I gave you proof that he performs better at 140.. but its common sense if you are a boxing fan. by your logic fighter perform better at higher weigh classes cuz they dont have to burn the Xtra weight.. you dont know much about boxing with that comment. 7 XTRA pounds can ALSO slow you down if you have been fighting YOUR WHOLE CAREER AT alower class. Some fighters even lose power, let alone stamina moxing up. go away. Hatton camp said they made mistakes the 1st time they fought at 47, and came in lean and fast the 2nd time. Hatton did not come in heavy against Mayweather. You lose. As always.

lol.. you are CLUE LESS. so the shedding the X tra pounds ONLY applies to Hatton? OR is it when you are trying to argue something? HAtton LOOKED his worse agaisnt Collzao at 147.. HENCE , WHY HE WENT BACK DOWN TO 140 ..HE IS BETTER THERE.. YOU NEED SOME PLAIN AND BASIC COMMON SENSE :duh::duh: Read my post again, cry on not being able to come up with a logical argument. What's your point? Who are you talking about? Try to answer clear posts with clear replies instead of going for smillies and CAPS.

yes, Hatton is better at 140 then 147. you think Dela Hoya is better at 154 or 160? lol use some plain and basic common sense will ya ? I am using logic, you cant even make your point... you probably meant to say Hatton does much better against 140 fighters, than against 147 fighters. Which is true for EVERY fighter on earth... But your point is moot, because Mayweather is NOT a natural 147 fighter. Saying that he is a worse fighter when he is given the option to weight above 147 is just retarded. So you made a moot point or a retarded one... good job!

yeah, but you only started saying this when Floyd was exposing himself by making excuses not to fight Cotto. reality set in and you dont wanna talk about it no more whaaaaa whaaaaaaawhaaaaaaaa. :nonono:I'm putting you back on ignore...I've said many times the fight will happen..Just because he's not fighting him WHEN YOU WANT HIM TO doesnt mean he wont fight him...Damn homeboy, is there any fighter you talk about instead of Mayweather...Grow the fuck up!!:bottle:

** Floydy ain't evolved since 1998 when he won his first WBC title. Since then, WBC this, WBC that, and more WBC. Makes you kinda wonder if he and Suliman got something goin' on the side. Nobody doubts he's a good fighter, but all this nonsense about him being the best ever in spite of never holding 75% of the titles available for him exposes you more than him. Joe C and Manny have more claim about being the best as he does. You mention Cotto, but let's face facts here. Cotto currently the best in the division. Maybe he could lose to Margarito, but Floydy won't fight either one, at least for now. He'll wait for one to get battered and fight the loser like he did with Judah. I've got a sharp memory, and I remember when he was offered the undisputed hot of his KO of Spinks Judah. Floydy chose to fight the Great Gatti instead, taking short money. I also remember after Gatti he challenged Wright who's team showed up the next day with a 50/50 split contract. Floydy sneaked out the back door and couldn't be found for a month. By then the fight was queered. Offered Margarito for a career payday. Turned that down Why? Well, why fight anyone else when the WBC sets your table with easy pickin's. You can just say Floydy would have beat them anyway. Just match'em in the computer and pay Floydy his millions. That's what he wants. Judah-Mayweather was signed BEFORE Judah lost to Baldo. Dismissed.

So Hatton is bigger then Dela Hoya too? LOL Hatton 5'6 with a 65' arm reach. started at 140LBS Dela Hoya 5'10 1/2 with a 72'-73' arm reach started at 132LBS..LOL oh my super bologne Hatton is bigger then Dela Hoya..LOL :banana: How old was Floyd when he moved to 140? Until what age did Oscar fight south of 140, how many days before the fight he made 130? Go on, make yourself look like a fool...

I am not here to defend floyds personality, his makin it rain, or his fuckin retarded flashy lifestyle appeal. However there comes a point where i wonder if some of you get tired of what you do. On one hand, you people rip horus and dios for being fantatical, but then you get the SAME PEOPLE year after year, saying the same shit about the same guy. In 2005 it was margarito, then in 06 it was hatton, and since hatton now its Cotto. Every year its something new. No, i dont want to see the DLH rematch, that shit is retarded, but on the other hand, this cotto shit has been brewing for less than a year, and people are losing their minds over this shit. Doesnt it get boring bandwagoning new fighters all the time? Doesnt it get boring hating the same guy for so long? I mean, i dont like alot of fighters, i think wlad is the boringest heavyweight since chris byrd, however i dont make threads about the guy, and i rarely talk about him. Im not saying you should dickride floyd, like him, or anything else, but at some point, honestly, do you guys ever get bored of critisizing anyone who likes him, arguing with fucking horus knowing hes gonna spout the same shit over and over, and just overall cluttering this board with the same bullshit? This board hasnt evolved since late 2005, the names have changed but the obession continues. For every floyd dickrider there are 10 haters, i kid you not. Its almost popular to look "better" by hating dude, as opposed to being in the middle. Most of you, without mayweather jr, have very little to say about anything and anyone else, and that goes for fans and haters alike. So i ask you, at what point are you guys going to give up and move onto something else? Bring bck the roy jones hate, the wlad and vitali hate, the tyson obession, ANYTHING that would renergize this board into something NOT named floyd mayweather vs (insert latest duck job here) I agree with you man...I wish more people would just move on...I say it a lot "There's more to boxing than Mayweather"

puh leas. Floyd beats Hatton at 140 or 147. Hatton already proved with performances against Urhango at 140 and Collazo at 147 he cant beat Floyd. Floyd fought TWO title eliminators to fight Gatti at 140 then ROLLED out. he opnely said he wanted Zoo to have more fights first cuz he doesnt want excuses due to injuries and has also said he want Zoo to get old like his uncle was so he can beat up Zoo.. POINT IS HE PERSUED GATTI (TWO TITLE ELIMINATORS)....NOT zOO or Hatton. Floyd ALSO claims he can fight anywhere from 154 to 140 , YET even though Hatton was the king at 140 (AND LEFT 147 CUZ HE WAS CRAP) Floyd wouldNT finish business at 140....... hatton is a BETTER fighter at 140 then 147. wake up. Floyd "easier fights for more Money" Mayweather Jr. Hatton is a better fighter when he HAS TO shed 7 extra pounds? You got to be kidding me... It only takes logic to recognize bullshit.

everyone knows floyd is the best, he will prob beat cotto then u lot will moan about something else, its just boxing critics u aint ever happy

you are missing my point badly, my point is, we know yall hate him, can we move on just for a moment? i have been here so fuckin long, longer than most of you even knew this place existed before i registered under this name, and i have just never seen this place so fixiated on one person, it bores me and many other longtime posters. i dont give a fuck if you like him or not, but can we fucking move on? Yes, let us please.

LOL... The true thing is that it's always somebody here. I've seen the great Hopes evolve from Margarito to Hatton to Cotto... And every time people move on to the next guy, it's like they never rode the last guy's nuts for the past year. Hatton get's knocked out: 'Oh, he was a smaller guy..' Exactly. I always said that. All fighters lose allot of fans once they lose to Floyd. People can't let floyd go. Funny thing is he's probably gone but we still have to have threads and threads filled with nonsense. I sign every word the original poster posted.

LOL it was never Hatton , Homay. It was MArgarito and now Cotto. any REAL fan knows that. have a good day. Oh yes it was! I remember it soundly! "Floyd never fought a body puncher as skilled as Hatton, Hatton has the style to beat him" Don't make me hit the search button, do it yourself.