What do you think of Golden Boy owning Ring Magazine?

last time I read the RING, they said some negative stuff about GBP... but we'll see how long that lasts.

If this is true... "The only three occasions when a fighter will lose his championship status are when he retires, moves to another weight division, or is defeated in a championship bout." -Ring Magazine Then neither Floyd Mayweather nor Ricky Hatton can be RING Champions. Quoting SinatraFan: "On the first two criteria, you could make a case that Mayweather should have given up rights to the Ring Magazine belt after the de la Hoya fight when he moved up in weight to fight for another title and afterwards vacated it by announcing his retirement." Quoting myself: "Hatton first went to 147 to fight Collazo, came back to 140, went to 147 again against Mayweather, LOST, and then came back to 140." But then they moved back down in weight, as stated above, I think it means if a fighter moves permanently up or down to a weight class.

This is an obscene conflict of interests. I hate capitalism on this scale. fuckers.

If this is true... "The only three occasions when a fighter will lose his championship status are when he retires, moves to another weight division, or is defeated in a championship bout." -Ring Magazine Then neither Floyd Mayweather nor Ricky Hatton can be RING Champions. Quoting SinatraFan: "On the first two criteria, you could make a case that Mayweather should have given up rights to the Ring Magazine belt after the de la Hoya fight when he moved up in weight to fight for another title and afterwards vacated it by announcing his retirement." Quoting myself: "Hatton first went to 147 to fight Collazo, came back to 140, went to 147 again against Mayweather, LOST, and then came back to 140." That's referring to a permanent move in weight class. If that figher makes a move up in weight and stays there then the title is vacated i.e. Winky Wright. In the case of Hatton and Mayweather, they both moved back into thier respective weight class immediately after one fight. (Hatton moved back twice, but it was an immediate return). The ring allows the fighter some time to determine which weight class they're goin to remain in. i.e. Joe holds the title at SMW and LH.... it would be wrong to immediately strip joe for making one fight at LH. He's not even sure which weight class his last fight is going to be in. Also, in mayweather's retirement case he was only retired for a solid 3 months... then the talks for hatton and mayweather began, in which that fight was a defense of that title. Mayweather is goin to fight in september (that BS DLH rematch) so he's still active. In a perfect world, if mayweather does not defend his title against Cotto (or the winner of Cotto vs margo) by mid next year or so he should be stripped of the ring title, but that's against policy.

I don't have big problems with it.....yet. If this is true... "The only three occasions when a fighter will lose his championship status are when he retires, moves to another weight division, or is defeated in a championship bout." -Ring Magazine Then neither Floyd Mayweather nor Ricky Hatton can be RING Champions. Quoting SinatraFan: "On the first two criteria, you could make a case that Mayweather should have given up rights to the Ring Magazine belt after the de la Hoya fight when he moved up in weight to fight for another title and afterwards vacated it by announcing his retirement." Quoting myself: "Hatton first went to 147 to fight Collazo, came back to 140, went to 147 again against Mayweather, LOST, and then came back to 140."

They can spin it anyway they want, but when a boxing promoter owns a boxing publication it screams conflict of interest. It's fine for boxing articles, but I could never buy into their ratings or champions as being above suspicion. I agree with this and all the posts expressing similar sentiments. The bottom line for me is that there is a huge conflict of interests and with Ring being so influential it should never have been allowed to happen. Its nothing new in todays world though, is it.

I don't have big problems with it.....yet. COSIGN---- They haven't given me a reason to have any problems; however, if they start stripping titles, making interm champs, and charging sanctioning fees then we have a problem. The thing about ring magazine's ratings is that it is not based entirely on ring magazine employees. They have a diverse set of editors, historians, etc. on their board that develop the ratings. There is atleast one representative from boxingscene, maxboxing (and others that i will not mention) on the board. So it's not up to golden boy nor the editor-in-chief of the magazine to make the determination of how a boxer is ranked.

They can spin it anyway they want, but when a boxing promoter owns a boxing publication it screams conflict of interest. It's fine for boxing articles, but I could never buy into their ratings or champions as being above suspicion.

I only found out about this yesterday, and I have to say I find it very disappointing. If Ring were just a boxing magazine I would have no problem with it at all, but for a promotions company to own the body that controls boxing's most prestigous and influential titles is, I think, very alarming. I'm sure that Golden Boy justify it by saying that Golden Boy is a huge company and its acquisition of Ring is just part of an expanding corporate portfolio and that the promotions arm will have no input into the magazine, but this doesn't wash with me. There are huge amounts of money involved in boxing and money will make people do the strangest things. The titles that Ring bestows upon boxers to a large extent determine the fights that are financially viable and the fights that can be made. How can Golden Boy possibly separate the interests of its fighters from its administration of the Ring titles? I think its a farce to be honest. What do you guys think? Kinda like Rupert Murdoch buying the WSJ. Can't believe they got away with this...

This is old news. It don't really matter cuz the Ring is still unbiased recognizing its champions and Oscar gets criticized in the Ring so it hasn't turned into a DLH mouthpiece just yet.

Wrong. Even if they try to be fair, there will always be an air of bias on their rankings (and, by the way, there IS bias on their rankings).

You mean because the titles are still being done properly? I'm sure it'll stay that way for a while, but money talks and I am certain it won't stay that way forever. There hasn't been anything shady going on yet, but I would have major problems if strange things start happening.

I don't have big problems with it.....yet. You mean because the titles are still being done properly? I'm sure it'll stay that way for a while, but money talks and I am certain it won't stay that way forever.

I don't have big problems with it.....yet.

Ring Magazine magazine assures me that it's awesome.

Only problem I have it that it seems to be harder to get ahold of, and that the site is down now, technically. Other than that, it's not a problem to me.