Posters slate the Brits for not fighting outside their own country i.e America, yet they fail to acknowledge that the big time American fighters are reluctant to leave theirs.
What about England? Mayweather vs Hatton would make millions at Wembley.
Ricky has a fanbase like no other UK/EURO/maybe anyone in boxing period. The follow him and spend money. Why do you think Floyd wants to go there? To prove something? No the obvious answer is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. In general, the money is to be made in the states. You know dis Smokey.
Posters slate the Brits for not fighting outside their own country i.e America, yet they fail to acknowledge that the big time American fighters are reluctant to leave theirs.
Because of shit like Round 10, Lazcano vs Hatton. End of story.
Yup basically. There is an American fighting tomorrow in the UK so this thread is irrelevant already. No need to even go into history.
But anway, should NBA, MLB, or NFL players leave their league to go play English or Italian hoop ball? Yeah, if they are garbage. The US is where it's at for most sports, including boxing. Whether it's Vegas, NYC or Cali; the UK doesn't compare unless Hatton or Calzaghe are fighting.
-no one buys your cars
-no one plays your sports
-no one respects your military
all this coming from a guy with a ladyboy in his avatar....
Yup basically. There is an American fighting tomorrow in the UK so this thread is irrelevant already. No need to even go into history.
But anway, should NBA, MLB, or NFL players leave their league to go play English or Italian hoop ball? Yeah, if they are garbage. The US is where it's at for most sports, including boxing. Whether it's Vegas, NYC or Cali; the UK doesn't compare unless Hatton or Calzaghe are fighting.
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You Americans amaze me. The US is where its at for most sports! Priceless.
I think the most telling aspect of the US bias is that fights that happen outside the US are decried as being irrelevent, regardless of who is taking part in them. For example the fight between Calzaghe and Kessler for unification of the Super Middleweight division or between David Haye and Enzo Calzaghe for unification of the Cruiser division are completely dismissed, as was Calzaghe against Lacy (after Lacy got battered of course).
good point.....spot on too
I think the most telling aspect of the US bias is that fights that happen outside the US are decried as being irrelevent, regardless of who is taking part in them. For example the fight between Calzaghe and Kessler for unification of the Super Middleweight division or between David Haye and Enzo Calzaghe for unification of the Cruiser division are completely dismissed, as was Calzaghe against Lacy (after Lacy got battered of course).
Hate to break it to you, but baseball and american football are pretty small in global terms. Basketball is hugely popular though and a lot of the best players come from outside US (didn't spain or argentina win the world championships last time out??).
I take the point about america being the biggest boxing country in the world, but if a champion is from elsewhere, challengers should come to them, fair standards should be enforced. Hence it is a huge disappointment that his experience in seol put RJJ off winning the LHW title v darius M.
hi.
do you not think somewhere like wembly would bring in alot more money(because it hold 90 thousand people) than cesars palace?
the palace only hold about 20 thousand people.
look at the hatton fight tommorow. 55 thousand people compared to the 20 thousand in las vegas.
plus calzaghe got 50 thousand in cardiff! i think if the british boxing council exploited this i think britian could become the "mecca" of boxing(money wise.)
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I agree. I was just saying what i was told when i asked this question. I like fighters who take risks...
Juan Guzman was gunna go to Scotland to fight Arthur.
Calzaghe went to America to fight Hopkins
Hatton went to US to fight Mayweather
There was a real chance of them getting ripped off, but they did it anyway. I think more fighters should come to Britain, the arenas we have are great. Look at the crowd last night!
Posters slate the Brits for not fighting outside their own country i.e America, yet they fail to acknowledge that the big time American fighters are reluctant to leave theirs.MR T SYNDROME
i aint getting on no plane fool i aint getting on no plane
you are delusional. I could name 50 really good fighters that fight in american for every 1 really good fighter that fights only in the UK or all of europe for that matter. why argue against facts? I don't get it. I understand that you love your country and hate america but why be delusional?
america is where the money is and where the top competition is in the world. you are looking at a couple of fighters from the UK who have had success and you are blowing them up as if they represent the whole state of boxing in the UK.
I'm canadian and could care less that big name fighters don't come here or that canada isn't the center of the boxing world. I just love boxing and don't care where it happens.
I am not delusional, and I dont hate America. I love America and have travelled there for the past 8 years. I just stick up for my own country when our boxers are frequently belittled for not travelling, when American fighers are even more stay at home than ours.
Also I dont believe British boxing will ever overtake America as a boxing superpower, but I believe Europe as a whole can, by improving the image of the sport of the continent and raising popularity. Even a Europe vs America mentality to the sport would be beneficial. The PPV revenue streams from all the European member states, and the U.S.A, could make for a revival in world boxing, and create some very big cards indeed.
The fact is, with slowing economy's and recession on the horizon, promoters will be looking to stage more fights between British and American fighters because the obvious rivalry is hugely profitable. Thats why I believe America cant go on its own for much longer.
American fighters 9 times out of 10 times dont NEED to leave the U.S. to get worldwide recognition and the big money PPV fights.
Like it or not; the United States IS the capital of boxing; AND has the most talent; not to say that other countries dont have talent (ie. Hatton, Calzaghe, Wlad, etc. etc. etc.) MAJORITY of the best fight in the united states or are from the united states.
We didnt make this up; its just how it goes i guess.
I will tell you why paulie is fighting in england, because hatton is and they want to fight each other should they both win and its best to showcase them BOTH on the SAME card rather than 5000 miles apart...
besides if they both win (which i believe they will) they will be fighting in New York, USA.
SO what does that tell you? the big fight comes back to the U.S.
what's the point of going to America to fight, the dollar is worth fuck all and crashing all the time, Hatton and Calzaghe can make just as much money sitting at home. Look at Amir Khan hes not even European champion and is already a multi millionnaire.
hatton and calzaghe can't make nearly as much money staying in the UK and neither can Amir Khan. if amir khan has made 5 mill so far, he would make 10 mill in the US. its just the way it is. accept it and move on.
In the same breath, British fighters dont need to leave Britain to be considered great. They can make big fights here, make enough money here, and become superstars here. The whole thing about having to go to America to be great is played out.
As for America being the mecca of boxing, I think that is going to change in the next decade or so. Britain is basically the only major boxing power in Europe, but Germany seem to be growing more interested, as do france. If Europe can make more big fights involving the biggest names in boxing, and create a sense of boxing rivalry between countrys like football does, I can see the European PPV market booming. And the PPV money is what makes big fights happen. The more money in Europe, the more Americans will have to come over here to earn their paycheck and respect.
I think in the next 15 years, Europe could realisticly challenge America to be the boxing capital of the world.
you are delusional. I could name 50 really good fighters that fight in american for every 1 really good fighter that fights only in the UK or all of europe for that matter. why argue against facts? I don't get it. I understand that you love your country and hate america but why be delusional?
america is where the money is and where the top competition is in the world. you are looking at a couple of fighters from the UK who have had success and you are blowing them up as if they represent the whole state of boxing in the UK.
I'm canadian and could care less that big name fighters don't come here or that canada isn't the center of the boxing world. I just love boxing and don't care where it happens.
Boxers should travel around the world to countries such as Zaïre, Malasya, Indonesia, Japan and the Philipines like Ali did! It creates a better atmosphere imo. But that's just me ofcourse...
because they don't need to. america is the premier league and the rest of the world is no more than division 1 apart from a few exceptions.
In the same breath, British fighters dont need to leave Britain to be considered great. They can make big fights here, make enough money here, and become superstars here. The whole thing about having to go to America to be great is played out.
As for America being the mecca of boxing, I think that is going to change in the next decade or so. Britain is basically the only major boxing power in Europe, but Germany seem to be growing more interested, as do france. If Europe can make more big fights involving the biggest names in boxing, and create a sense of boxing rivalry between countrys like football does, I can see the European PPV market booming. And the PPV money is what makes big fights happen. The more money in Europe, the more Americans will have to come over here to earn their paycheck and respect.
I think in the next 15 years, Europe could realisticly challenge America to be the boxing capital of the world.