I want to hear about fighters from 1985 and earlier.
I wasn't around to see Aaron Pryor fight in his prime live, but even today when I watch what he was able to do against Alexis Arguello and other sturdy fighters, I'm still amazed. The hand speed, the lack of regard for his own safety, the raw athleticism, he had it all. I've never seen a fighter like him whose dynamic ability amazes me like Pryor's.
If you had eyes, you recognized his ability.
When you think of the lackluster heavyweight division of recent years, it makes you appreciate Muhammad Ali more. It's almost as simple as mentioning that he punched in combination, but he did it and did that well. He was quick as lightning, cocky as all get out and could turn it up when need be. It's amazing to think that a man that size could do that.
damn scott, your offline. i was going to ask you who is the lovely lady in your avy.
yup, jack had a lot of interesting advice. one or two examples, he mentioned taking a walk after a meal to help aid digestion. he recommended boxing as an excellent form of exercising and self defence.
you guys can probably pick up his auto bio for $15 or so on ebay. that's where i got mine. it was a 1969 second printing i think. i was old school paperback form with his famous pose on the cover that is remarkably similar to my boxing arts main training posture. chinese boxing and older school and bareknuckle boxing share a lot of similarities.
yeah, i recommend it highly as well. he describes his fights, whom and where as well as what went down as well as his personal life from an early age.
i have unforgivable blackness as well, but i enjoyed jack's auto bio a bit more.
def jack johnson. i mean what he did at the time he did. fucking unmatchable!
i encourage you guys to pick up his autobiography. yeah, i bet most didn't know that he wrote one. well he did. and if you read it, good luck separating fact from fiction.
it's kinda sad that he is forgotten about as much as he is. ali gets big props in black history month. but, there would be no ali without johnson. even ali said that, after watching a play on jack's rise to being the first colored heavyweight champ, there were so many similarities. ali basically said that he has balls upon balls for doing what he did.
anyways, jack, not only a great boxer, but in a time where blacks were still getting lynched, he chose to stay away from judging people based on color. helluva guy if you ask me.
there is a lot people don't know about jack. example, he spoke more than one language. he opened a club(club de champion i think) which admitted people of all races.
a man ahead of his time.
Johnson's autobio was the best I ever read. He had opinions on everything. Highly recommended.
def jack johnson. i mean what he did at the time he did. fucking unmatchable!
i encourage you guys to pick up his autobiography. yeah, i bet most didn't know that he wrote one. well he did. and if you read it, good luck separating fact from fiction.
it's kinda sad that he is forgotten about as much as he is. ali gets big props in black history month. but, there would be no ali without johnson. even ali said that, after watching a play on jack's rise to being the first colored heavyweight champ, there were so many similarities. ali basically said that he has balls upon balls for doing what he did.
anyways, jack, not only a great boxer, but in a time where blacks were still getting lynched, he chose to stay away from judging people based on color. helluva guy if you ask me.
there is a lot people don't know about jack. example, he spoke more than one language. he opened a club(club de champion i think) which admitted people of all races.
a man ahead of his time.
Bob Foster was the ultimate boxer-puncher at 175. He'd spend a few rounds setting his opponents up by outboxing them, then when the time was right he'd turn their lights out.
I had a great conversation with my dad today about Salvador S anchez. he said he'd never seen anyone like that. He was soft spoken but a real beast in the ring and a true champion. He was fighting and beating the best. Before he died he was scheduled to fight Alexis Arguillos in a super fight.
Ruben Carter was also as strong as they come. He reminded me of Hagler iin his style and strenght. He seemed incredibly strong
I want to hear about fighters from 1985 and earlier.
I wasn't around to see Aaron Pryor fight in his prime live, but even today when I watch what he was able to do against Alexis Arguello and other sturdy fighters, I'm still amazed. The hand speed, the lack of regard for his own safety, the raw athleticism, he had it all. I've never seen a fighter like him whose dynamic ability amazes me like Pryor's.
If you had eyes, you recognized his ability.
When you think of the lackluster heavyweight division of recent years, it makes you appreciate Muhammad Ali more. It's almost as simple as mentioning that he punched in combination, but he did it and did that well. He was quick as lightning, cocky as all get out and could turn it up when need be. It's amazing to think that a man that size could do that.
pryor was a beast. I remember watching his fights as a kid with my dad. srl clearly ducked him for good reason
I want to hear about fighters from 1985 and earlier.
I wasn't around to see Aaron Pryor fight in his prime live, but even today when I watch what he was able to do against Alexis Arguello and other sturdy fighters, I'm still amazed. The hand speed, the lack of regard for his own safety, the raw athleticism, he had it all. I've never seen a fighter like him whose dynamic ability amazes me like Pryor's.
If you had eyes, you recognized his ability.
When you think of the lackluster heavyweight division of recent years, it makes you appreciate Muhammad Ali more. It's almost as simple as mentioning that he punched in combination, but he did it and did that well. He was quick as lightning, cocky as all get out and could turn it up when need be. It's amazing to think that a man that size could do that.
thats funny. Aaron Pryor was the first guy that came to mind when I read the thread title. 2nd guy was salvador sanchez.
Joe Frazier's ability to never stop coming forward no matter what was being thrown at him.
George Foreman and Ernie Shavers punching power.
And since someone mentioned Meldrick Taylor, even though it was post '85 his speed was the most amazing display I've ever seen. Scratch that, he was the most amazing thing I'd ever seen. Kid had it all, solid punching power, speed that would make Sugar Ray Leonard shit his pants, and a heart made of iron.
Despite the fact that he could've won so many of his fights on finesse alone, if he got tagged good he always engaged and showed his heart. He didn't have to go toe-to-toe with Chavez, but that was just the kind of man he was.
Good evidence of that in my sig banner.
I want to hear about fighters from 1985 and earlier.
I wasn't around to see Aaron Pryor fight in his prime live, but even today when I watch what he was able to do against Alexis Arguello and other sturdy fighters, I'm still amazed. The hand speed, the lack of regard for his own safety, the raw athleticism, he had it all. I've never seen a fighter like him whose dynamic ability amazes me like Pryor's.
If you had eyes, you recognized his ability.
When you think of the lackluster heavyweight division of recent years, it makes you appreciate Muhammad Ali more. It's almost as simple as mentioning that he punched in combination, but he did it and did that well. He was quick as lightning, cocky as all get out and could turn it up when need be. It's amazing to think that a man that size could do that.
Indeed. Something to behold.
Im still amazed by Fraizer's work rate and head movement. Amazed by how long and powerful Liston's jab was, and how well he fought on the inside to go with it.
Well, they have nothing on Vitali, but throw them a bone why don't ya?
I didnt say they sucked.... I just dont buy that men in the 70's were somehow tougher, faster and harder hitting then men of any other era..
Boxing was lot more mainstream.. and it was Boxing's golden era in terms of Global popularity.. But they were all still, just men..
Nico Locche. Didn't know too much about him until a few years ago. My man Yogi hooked me up with some footage of him, I did my reading, and he was incredible fighter. A true defensive wizard.
This clip is pretty great to watch. He has every trick in the book and he does it against a GREAT, hall of fame fighter in Cervantes. Reflex, blocking with the gloves and arms, ducking, slipping, rolling punches, etc. Great stuff.
That was bad-ass! I was grinning from beginning to end. It was like watching the defensive ring generalship of Whitaker, with a dash of Mayweather and the cocky playful elusiveness of Toney rolled into one, but on another level. It was weird because I was so focused on his movements and what he would do next, I didn't even pay any attention to his opponent.
Carlos Monzon
Tall and powerful, the "Escopeta" (shotgun) was the pride of Argentina in the 1970s and possibly the best pure middleweight of all.
Boxing behind a stinging jab, Monzon's right cross and granite chin helped him sweep aside all before him.
Monzon held the world middleweight crown for seven years, made 14 defences and was unbeaten for the last 81 fights and 13 years of his career.
87-3-9, 59KOs
I was just about to say Monzon.
Damn, I'd heard of how good Locche was but never seen clips till now. Those were awesome, my man!
I'd like to add Arguello, Leonard, Basilio, Esteban De Jesus,Wilfredo Gomez to the names already mentioned here. I love the Classics.
Carlos Monzon
Tall and powerful, the "Escopeta" (shotgun) was the pride of Argentina in the 1970s and possibly the best pure middleweight of all.
Boxing behind a stinging jab, Monzon's right cross and granite chin helped him sweep aside all before him.
Monzon held the world middleweight crown for seven years, made 14 defences and was unbeaten for the last 81 fights and 13 years of his career.
87-3-9, 59KOs
Azumah Nelson is one of my very favorite fighters of all-time. He still makes me say, "WOW", even today. The evolution of his career and some of the things he did during his fighting days were special.
This raw, ultra-powerful Featherweight from Ghana gives the great Salvador Sanchez 14 rounds of hell before succumbing to punishment. He slowly refines his skill and figures out the art of boxing and goes on to become one of the 5 best 130lb fighters the sport has seen. The Gomez win and the Fenech episode will always remain in my mind. The Professor took Fenech to school in the second fight and straight beat the breaks off him. Pretty strong statement after such a poor showing in a fight where you receive a gift draw.