I'm pretty sure I seen this thread somewhere but the goddam search function isn't turning any results up when I try it, anyway who takes this match-up prime-for-prime? Was watching the HBO Legendary nights episode of Hearns-SRL the other day and watched Hearns-Benitez as well. Assuming this match were to take place at welter, 147, who wins?
I think Tommy just moves so extremely well, caught opponents on the end of his long arms, I can't see Floyd outboxing him being so much smaller in comparison. He'd have to first get in Tommys range then catch him, but in doing that he'd leave himself open to that blockbuster right hand. It depends really. If Tommy believes he can steamroller Floyd he'd go after him, a la Duran, and Floyd would be able to pick him off with counters. But I just dont see Floyd beating Tommy, I like both of them a lot but Tommys dimensions are freakish and I think a couple of big right hands and Floyd would go into a bit of a shell, let himself get outworked like in that first Castillo fight in a scrappy contest. Tommy UD
Hearns.
Mayweather is a special fighter and all, but there's a good number of welterweights throughout the years I pick over him, and perhaps none with more confidence than Tommy.
so because he picked floyd over tommy, he is nuthugging and cannot be reasonable? i guess anybody on here who picks floyd is nuthugging then. you're a fucking joke, and i really mean this. you're so wrried about somebody picking floyd because he is the better boxer, much better mover, better defense, better counterpuncher, and faster fighter, that you don't even give a reason why you picked tommy over him, you're a fucking joke.
floyd would be too much for tommy hearns, and he would beat him by ud. his defense is too good and better than sugar ray leonard's was and duran's was. floyd is too crafty for tommy and wouldn't waste punches like leonard did, he is more accurate by far. he chooses his shots well and positions his body where he can offset tommy to the core. it's funny you guys say tommy would knock floyd out as if floyd as even been in trouble like that to where he looked as if he was going to be knocked out. tommy hearns ain't knocking out shit, that's for damn sure, floyd would beat tommy hearns, who is bigger than him, has a longer reach, and uses hisjab effectively was floyd moves better and throws sharper punches.
Floyd is a better boxer than Thomas Hearns? ROFL, honestly, that must be the funniest thing I have ever heard in my life.
Hearns by late TKO. His jab would dictate this fight.
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Cant agree on the smarts mate , Tommy even with every advantage could not out smart a plodder like Barkley , Tommy was a power fighter not a tactition of any kind , I loved Hearns but he was not a smart fighter at all , if he was he would have beaten Hagler , he lost to him the only way he could lose, in a firefight , Tommy was not smart or a good thinker , same thing to me .
Hearns fought very smart against Wilfred Benitez and Virgil Hill.
He was a fighter but he could also box and Hearns showed this when he, a past prime former welterweight, fought against a bigger champion at LHW and outboxed him.
I wouldn't say Hearns was smarter than Mayweather but he wasn't 10x dumber either, Hearns made some mistakes during his career but he had brilliant performances as well.
Yes he is , Tommy didnt even know to hold when hurt , great fighter Hearns and I believe he is to big because Floyd is not a true welter so the fight is unfair , but Tommy is not a smarter fighter than Floyd .
Hearns is the better pure boxer and thinker in the ring. Mayweather is smarter when it comes to tying up when in trouble. Big difference. Mayweather is not out smarting Hearns.
Hearns, by EARLY brutal KO (following 2 knockdowns, early in the 2nd or 3rd round).
Hearns was too big, too quick, and too aggressive for Mayweather to handle. I think Mayweather gets caught early and cold, and finishes the fight in the prone position.
And Hitman was a finisher. One he hurt him, it's all over. I also think Mayweather is a tad chinny, but that's just a suspicion. I've only seen him get caught flush once, and he was hurt pretty bad. This was by Corley, for heaven's sake.
Incidentally, I'd also pick Sugar Ray Leonard over Mayweather, too. Every day of the week, and not just because he beat Hearns. Ray was exactly the type of fighter that can hurt Mayweather, multiplied by a factor of about 10. Think of a Mayweather in the ring against another version of himself that isn't afraid to stand toe to toe with anyone, can take a BRUTAL flush punch, and has about twice the power.
Tommy Hearns may be "too tall" for mayweather and "hit too hard", but Mayweather is 10x smarter than Hearns and Hearn's chin is questionable. Mayweather is a much better fight and I wouldn't be surprised if Mayweather took a win. But you have to remember, Hearns' career started at 147 and went up to Cruiserweight. Mayweather started at 130 and finished at 147. (154 doesn't really count IMO)
How does Thomas Hearns' chin factor into a fight with Mayweather? Hearns was hurt and/or stopped by Ray Leonard and big, strong middleweights^ like Barkley, Roldan, Kinchen and Hagler.
Granted any fighter has a chance, but besides that tiny .01%, Mayweather would just get destroyed by Hearns. Everything he could try would fail. Getting in the pocket would be his best bet but he can't stay there with Hearns, plus he'd get hit on the way there, and even in the pocket Hearns would still just be too devestating.
Hearns stops Mayweather.
Tommy Hearns may be "too tall" for mayweather and "hit too hard", but Mayweather is 10x smarter than Hearns and Hearn's chin is questionable. Mayweather is a much better fight and I wouldn't be surprised if Mayweather took a win. But you have to remember, Hearns' career started at 147 and went up to Cruiserweight. Mayweather started at 130 and finished at 147. (154 doesn't really count IMO)
I think Sugar Ray Leonard would beat Mayweather.
Tommy Hearns may be "too tall" for mayweather and "hit too hard", but Mayweather is 10x smarter than Hearns and Hearn's chin is questionable. Mayweather is a much better fight and I wouldn't be surprised if Mayweather took a win. But you have to remember, Hearns' career started at 147 and went up to Cruiserweight. Mayweather started at 130 and finished at 147. (154 doesn't really count IMO)
I have yet to see a good case made for Mayweather in this match-up.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=9VCcxfzHxGQ
Here is a nice highlight of Thomas Hearns anyway...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=wQaYf0xU7-g
Hearns soundly handling the masterful counter puncher and defensive artist Wilfred Benitez.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=gNFi3ZcM_S4
Duran vs Hearns
correct. even pbf's relatively wordy post can be reduced to, "mayweather wins because he's better than everyone at everything".
hearns wins in just about any scenario i can imagine here. floyd could not and most likely WOULD NOT have the stones to come forward the way ray leonard did, and he'd be battered in a fight on the outside.
You can talk about Floyd defeating 'tall' fighters such as Corrales (a great warrior) and N'Dou all you want but the fact is that those two fighters were atleast 20 lbs lighter than Thomas Hearns and not on his level even in a p4p sense.
Its also the fact that N'dou and Corrales didn't use their size and reach to their advantage the way Hearns would. Corrales is a strong banger that looks to get on the inside and beak you down. N'dou was never a major force in the division and commited to slugging when he couldn't get anything going offensively. Oscar is the only fighter to use his natural size and tools to box Mayweather from the outside (which shocked me) and we seen the result. Mayweather nearly lost the fight because he was being out boxed and overwelmed by a naturally bigger fighter that brought educated pressure and stuck to his jab. Hearns could do this and a lot more, as he was faster than Oscar, brought better pressure, a better out boxer, naturally bigger/taller, longer reach and the far bigger puncher. Plus, he wouldn't fade at todays standards because there is only 12 rounds.
I think Benitez had better defense than Mayweather.
They talk about Floyd Mayweather defeating Genaro Hernandez when he was only 21 years old, Wilfredo Benitez defeated a prime, long-reigning champion and a hall of famer Antonio Cervantes at age 17!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=yzwxCEX-p-8
It looks like man against boy, except the boy is schooling the man...
tall fighters are all wrong for mayweather.
Hearns is Tall with Class A boxing skill and a Class A punching power. His weakness (Suspect chin) wont be in the equation either coz floyd is not a big puncher at welter.
I have yet to see a good case made for Mayweather in this match-up.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=9VCcxfzHxGQ
Here is a nice highlight of Thomas Hearns anyway...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=wQaYf0xU7-g
Hearns soundly handling the masterful counter puncher and defensive artist Wilfred Benitez.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=gNFi3ZcM_S4
Duran vs Hearns
I think Benitez had better defense than Mayweather.
MayweATHER jr. will perform better againts SRL and Duran.
Hearns long Arms and SUPERB boxing from the outside is the perfect weapon againts Floyds stance. plus one well timed right hand can end it.
Hearns UD
Should I post a highlight vid of Floyd???...
Sure but I doubt I will see Floyd knocking out any cruiserweights, light heavyweights, middleweights and light middleweights in that highlight vid, actually not even any welterweights.
You can talk about Floyd defeating 'tall' fighters such as Corrales (a great warrior) and N'Dou all you want but the fact is that those two fighters were about 20 lbs lighter than Thomas Hearns and not on his level even in a p4p sense.
Leonard took a huge risk by coming forward against Hearns and had to absorb some devastating punches, as a result the damage to Leonard's eye done by Hearns almost forced him to retire early.
I don't see Floyd taking that kind of a risk and I doubt he could accomplish anything even if he did with his small frame.
We are talking about a 6 inch difference in both height and reach here...
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