Fuck Calzaghe Haters

u must b a real idiot...! The real idiots are the one's that don't even have him in their top 10. #3 sounds about right.

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dumb ass Calzaghe #1 P4P u must b a real idiot...!

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Godamn 4 posts into this thread...this post OWNED. God job dave man. Well, apart from the fact he isn't english. And the rest of it was shit. Yeah it OWNED! PWN PWN PWN!!!!! Fucks sake.

Godamn 4 posts into this thread...this post OWNED. God job dave man. You still think Paul Williams will dominate WW to LHW for years to come and will be #1 p4p for a decade? You still think Paulie Malignaggi is top 10 p4p? Do you still think Malignaggi and Williams >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe Calzaghe?

"Oscar Wilde is my bitch" - Addison Arrest this man for buggery. :cop:

if joe was from the USA he might not have his perfect record And many fans over here would still hate on him just like they do flyod, roy and even Ali Well...yes...but this is all hypothetical. I'm just saying if the Joe we see today were American he'd be a lot more respected than he is now, by Americans at least. Lots of fans would hate him too, no doubt.

If Joe was from the US, probably Mozza wouldn't think of him as a legend, its natural, if not always desirable to support and look out for your 'hometown fighter' as it were. I'll tell you something though, if Joe were from the US, the US fans would be hugging his nuts harder than any have been hugged before. He would be their most popular fighter easily, and he'd be acclaimed as a legend from now until the end of time. I guarantee it. if joe was from the USA he might not have his perfect record And many fans over here would still hate on him just like they do flyod, roy and even Ali

Damn aint that the truth Nor overrated slapping Euro bums. Nor Jermain Taylor Nor Antonio Tarver and Glen Johnson This thread owned? I think not.

"Oscar Wilde is my bitch" - Addison Of all the Irish poets in history I'm sure that Wilde would appreciate this the most.

Americans have every right to feel superior. We have the best boxers in history of boxing. The Ali's, the Leonard's, the Joe Louis's, The Robinson's. A top 20 ATG in Roy Jones.....and one of the most gifted fighters ever. The phenomenon of Mike Tyson. The Holyfield etc,etc, etc,. You get the point. This is why America is the center point to becoming great. If you're looking to become great then you have to come to America to fight the greate fighters and prove yourself. A guy like Lennox Lewis did that and he has secured a spot in the history books. Guys like Darius Michaelchewzki (if that's how you spell it), Sven Ottke, Henry Maske are lucky if they land in some Eurpean Hall of fame because they haven't done anything to come even close to the fighters I mentioned above. You just proved my point. Thanks!

this is the best post ive read for a while and i so true ,u should make a thread with this as the opening post i still dont think Cazlaghe would beat Hopkins of 2001 but Karma :fing02: Done! Thanks for the K

If Calzaghe was a yank they would be compring him to SRL FACT Jeez :pat:

Americans are worse than the rest of the world when it comes to overestimating their own fighters, although I accept that this can often include boxers who box out of America too, and include Mexicans, Puerto Ricans etc. It's not so much national pride that you have, more a belief that the entire world of boxing is basically the US and an at times amazing disregard for other fighters. Virtually every single elite fighter you have, once they pass a certain point in their careers is acclaimed as a legend, no matter how often they actually lose. Look at Hopkins, Jones, Winky, Trinidad, Toney, even Tarver! At times US fans act like these guys never lost a fight in their life, continually saying, your guy will never beat my amazing legendary legend (even though he's lost his last two fights!) You certainly don't extend this incredible willingness to forgive defeats to non-US and particularly European fighters. Every loss by a European proves beyond all reasonable doubt that he is a bum! So no, its not national pride exactly, more a huge and overweaning national sense of entitlement and presumed superiority, combined with an almost wilful disregard for the achievements of boxers from any other nation. Not trying to stir anything up, just saying! Americans have every right to feel superior. We have the best boxers in history of boxing. The Ali's, the Leonard's, the Joe Louis's, The Robinson's. A top 20 ATG in Roy Jones.....and one of the most gifted fighters ever. The phenomenon of Mike Tyson. The Holyfield etc,etc, etc,. You get the point. This is why America is the center point to becoming great. If you're looking to become great then you have to come to America to fight the greate fighters and prove yourself. A guy like Lennox Lewis did that and he has secured a spot in the history books. Guys like Darius Michaelchewzki (if that's how you spell it), Sven Ottke, Henry Maske are lucky if they land in some Eurpean Hall of fame because they haven't done anything to come even close to the fighters I mentioned above.

If Calzaghe was a yank they would be compring him to SRL FACT

Americans are worse than the rest of the world when it comes to overestimating their own fighters, although I accept that this can often include boxers who box out of America too, and include Mexicans, Puerto Ricans etc. It's not so much national pride that you have, more a belief that the entire world of boxing is basically the US and an at times amazing disregard for other fighters. Virtually every single elite fighter you have, once they pass a certain point in their careers is acclaimed as a legend, no matter how often they actually lose. Look at Hopkins, Jones, Winky, Trinidad, Toney, even Tarver! At times US fans act like these guys never lost a fight in their life, continually saying, your guy will never beat my amazing legendary legend (even though he's lost his last two fights!) You certainly don't extend this incredible willingness to forgive defeats to non-US and particularly European fighters. Every loss by a European proves beyond all reasonable doubt that he is a bum! So no, its not national pride exactly, more a huge and overweaning national sense of entitlement and presumed superiority, combined with an almost wilful disregard for the achievements of boxers from any other nation. Not trying to stir anything up, just saying! this is the best post ive read for a while and i so true ,u should make a thread with this as the opening post i still dont think Cazlaghe would beat Hopkins of 2001 but Karma :fing02:

Fair enough but I still disagree. The clinching, etc. is a secondary choice of action due to loss in physical abilities. The fight was determined by Joe's workrate and Hopkins lack of. A result of age. I feel Hopkins was able to still defend himself just fine without resorting to clinching when he was able to and in most cases get the better of exchanges. Therefore the only thing I would see different if the fight took place years ago would be less clinching and more exchanges which would likely have suited Hopkins even more. Totally understand what you're saying, but for me, in a more active fight, Calzaghe wins even more easily. Thats what he does.

I don't think Hopkins is better now either. I do think the Hopkins we see now has a style more suited to beating Joe than the Hopkins of old though, what made Hopkins hard to hit was not any incredible defense, but basically just a lot of smothering and clinching, which Hopkins did less of in the past. Thats why I think Joe beats him anytime. Fair enough but I still disagree. The clinching, etc. is a secondary choice of action due to loss in physical abilities. The fight was determined by Joe's workrate and Hopkins lack of. A result of age. I feel Hopkins was able to still defend himself just fine without resorting to clinching when he was able to and in most cases get the better of exchanges. Therefore the only thing I would see different if the fight took place years ago would be less clinching and more exchanges which would likely have suited Hopkins even more.