Can u be great without a great names on your Resume ,Calzaghe Misleading resume , allthough Calzaghe is undisputed Champ at LHW & SMW & still unbeaten the intangibles to his career are quite different IMO
most of Calzaghe's best names on his record were on the slide before he fought them and the others are made up of average fighters or up and comers
Eubank lost to Steve Collins twice Pre Calzaghe been involved in many wars over the years
Woodhall lost his World Title to Marcus Beyer Pre Calzaghe ,subsequently retired after the Joe Calzaghe fight
Robin Ried lost his title to Thulani Malinga pre Calzaghe , lost to Silvio Branco staright after the Calzaghe fight
Brewer lost title to Marcus Beyer ,was beaten Twice by Beyer Pre Calzaghe
Byron Mitchell Lost his title pre Calzaghe to Sven Ottke
Lacy Overated Clearly looked absolute garbage against Peter Manfredo
Kessler great win against a young hungry up and comer
Hopkins 43 year old fighter that cannot sustain activity due to age
Calzaghe nuthuggers playing the race card again.
They're scrapping the barrel big time these days.
in this case the calzache huggers may be right. when you seem to hate every single white fighter it draws suspision
Racism against white people
- Bolshevik purges USSR, 1920s and 1930s: 20 million killed, all churches destroyed, millions enslaved and/or displaced
- Armenian Genocide, 1917: 1.5 million killed
- Haiti genocide 1804: 20,000 (all the whites) killed
We just don't hear as much about all that. People people of all races have suffered.
First two there Tunney were also committed by white people, so they don't really count. I don't know what happened in Haiti.
You could add stealing the US and Australia from their indigenous peoples and the subjugation of blacks in South Africa under apartheid, the governance of India (and lots of other places) by the British Empire, conquest of Mexico by the Spanish...really where white people are concerned, we don't have a leg to stand on.
All races have suffered in the course of history, just its been mostly white people handing it out.
Again, I myself am white.
I don't believe either Tunney or Terrible to be racists, it's a great shame it's spiralled into such a sensitive debate which is essentially off topic.
If one is interested in the subject topic, comment on it, but don't be so provocative or willing to throw dangerous insults around, leaving ppl insulted, a topic ruined, off topic, and tensions high between a few. It does no good.
Threads about boxing be it a subject you like or not, belong here. If you think there's too many on a particular subject, fighter, or question fans motives, fine, but don't dismiss or argue so much man, it's ruins threads, creates tension and goes off the topic were all here for. IF you don't like the topic, don't say it should stop, or is wrong, make the odd comment but don't ruin it due to hating on another forum member, take it private or onto a suitable site if you must. Much Respect.
Now, fighters can be great without a great resume, but it's down to the individual how you rate they're resume. I don't think Calzaghes is bad or fantastic, great, well ppl seem to hold that word with high regard imo, but yes. Perfect, no.
I cannot second this strongly enough.
I don't believe either Tunney or Terrible to be racists, it's a great shame it's spiralled into such a sensitive debate which is essentially off topic.
If one is interested in the subject topic, comment on it, but don't be so provocative or willing to throw dangerous insults around, leaving ppl insulted, a topic ruined, off topic, and tensions high between a few. It does no good.
Threads about boxing be it a subject you like or not, belong here. If you think there's too many on a particular subject, fighter, or question fans motives, fine, but don't dismiss or argue so much man, it's ruins threads, creates tension and goes off the topic were all here for. If you don't like the boxing topic, don't say it should stop or criticise it, leave it be. Make the odd constructive comment but don't ruin it due to hating on another forum member, take it private or onto a suitable site if you must. Much Respect.
Now, fighters can be great without a great resume, but it's down to the individual how you rate they're resume. I don't think Calzaghe's is bad or fantastic, great, well ppl seem to hold that word with high regard imo, but yes. Perfect, no.
JC has a great record and is great because anyone would want an unbeaten record since 17 years of age like he has. He is 36. Not to have lost and be as consistent as him requires one to be great. Average Joes cant do what he has done.
So how is he being a racist if he's white...Thats all I'm asking you...Do you even know the TRUE meaning of being a RACIST....IF you feel like that you could'nt live a day in a BLACK person's shoe's...The amount of RACISMS we go through is unbeleivable...You dont know what it feels like to not get any service because of the color of your skin. You dont know what it feels like to get pulled over because of the color of your skin. You dont know what it feels like to get jumped because of the color of you skin...So stop throwing that racsist when he isnt doing anything but just stating his opinion. Its not like he is calling him racial slurs or anything...He just dont agree with your opinion and you have the nerve to call him a racist...Not to be rude or anything but thats just wrong on your part man.
I agree with you. I'm white, but it makes me extremely uncomfortable, or sometimes just amused when white people start complaining about racism against them.
Racism by White People
Holocaust
Slavery
Ku Klux Klan
Some name calling
Racism against White People
Some name calling
No contest!
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Brunette Busty
Terrible did say he was white, but he must have been lying because later he posted that he's black.
So how is he being a racist if he's white...Thats all I'm asking you...Do you even know the TRUE meaning of being a RACIST....IF you feel like that you could'nt live a day in a BLACK person's shoe's...The amount of RACISMS we go through is unbeleivable...You dont know what it feels like to not get any service because of the color of your skin. You dont know what it feels like to get pulled over because of the color of your skin. You dont know what it feels like to get jumped because of the color of you skin...So stop throwing that racsist when he isnt doing anything but just stating his opinion. Its not like he is calling him racial slurs or anything...He just dont agree with your opinion and you have the nerve to call him a racist...Not to be rude or anything but thats just wrong on your part man.
Technically supporting a fighter based solely on their skin colour is racist. It's a choice mad solely on racial grounds.
However I'm not sure its wrong exactly. As long as no-one is getting hurt by that choice then its up to the individual concerned. We can't edit people's thoughts.
Denying someone a job, or punching them, or saying you hate a fighter because of their race, that's the only kind of racism we need to worry about.
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Terrible did say he was white, but he must have been lying because later he posted that he's black.
that is a complete lie never have i said i was black not once
go onto my profile and u will see a picture of my son
Terrible....man dont even waste your time man...They clearly stated how they feel! I'm failing to see how you're racist...You're a straight up poster who gives HONEST opinion on fighters (black, white, hispanic, ect.)
I remember a while back when you stated that you're white...so how is critizing Calzaghe being a racist....Some people dont even know the meaning of the word RACIST...it seems like these two nuthuggers are looking for a way out of the debate...so the resort to calling you racist...Thats bullshit...A BIG OLE' PILE OF BULLSHIT!
Ray Lewis Jr c
cheers fella
i am white yeah , im retiring from this thread ,Tunney ,Jim :smashfrea
Once again, I never said it was okay, I just said it wasn't racist.
And if you think that race doesn't play some part in who the majority of people root for you're nuts.
u said u agreed with Tunneys opinion that its okay to root for a white guy based on the fact he is white as long as u aint hating on the black guy ,colour should not come into it Boxing is entertainment and u dont support a guy cause if he does'nt entertain u because he happens to have the same skin colour as u
in a life or death scenario i wonder who u would & Tunney would rescue if u could save a white guy or a black guy ? sadly i think we all know the answer to that u racist fuck
bad kamra sent back BTW if u cant handle my posts stop being such a racist
But you said you always support black fighters, never white, Terrible. By your own definition of a racist, then you're a racist yourself.
But I don't think your always rooting for black fighters makes you a racist. By my definition, you are a racist because of your hatred for white boxers such as Joe and Wlad, and your daily hate threads about them.
This guy makes up definitions to suit himself and his twisted ideas.
A lot of hate in this one, he said I should die in one of his red K comments to me, I guess that's because he thinks I'm white.
Jim Jeffries
u and Tunney are hilarious mate im saying its racist to support a fighter based on thier skin colour black or white & u and Tunney are saying its okay
and im the racist :lol1: does'nt make sense does it fella
Terrible....man dont even waste your time man...They clearly stated how they feel! I'm failing to see how you're racist...You're a straight up poster who gives HONEST opinion on fighters (black, white, hispanic, ect.)
I remember a while back when you stated that you're white...so how is critizing Calzaghe being a racist....Some people dont even know the meaning of the word RACIST...it seems like these two nuthuggers are looking for a way out of the debate...so the resort to calling you racist...Thats bullshit...A BIG OLE' PILE OF BULLSHIT!
Jim Jeffries
u and Tunney are hilarious mate im saying its racist to support a fighter based on thier skin colour black or white & u and Tunney are saying its okay
and im the racist :lol1: does'nt make sense does it fella
Once again, I never said it was okay, I just said it wasn't racist.
And if you think that race or nationality doesn't play some part in who the majority of people root for you're nuts.
Thanks for the red K. You really think I don't deserve to live for trying to educate someone who desperately needs it?
Jim Jeffries
u and Tunney are hilarious mate im saying its racist to support a fighter based on thier skin colour black or white & u and Tunney are saying its okay
and im the racist :lol1: does'nt make sense does it fella
i dont hate fighter based on colour and u have no evidence to support your fantasy claim
fact is u have admitted u are racist cause u agree with Tunneys opinion ,which is obviously racist to anyone with a little commonsense
now go away ive got no time for people like u
:smashfrea
You must be the slowest poster on here.
Carry on with your hate threads, get it all out. It might just be cheaper than the therapy you need.
Hating fighters based on color (like you do) is worse, and racist.
i dont hate fighter based on colour and u have no evidence to support your fantasy claim
fact is u have admitted u are racist cause u agree with Tunneys opinion ,which is obviously racist to anyone with a little commonsense
now go away ive got no time for people like u
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