The perfect analogy on why Paulie M. will beat Hatton

Hatton don't got the speed to handle Paulie. Fight will likely involve a lotta movement from Paulie which might make it dull, but he'll use that to UD Hatton.

I can't say i disagree on what you expect the outcome to be (ie. Paulie Malignaggi beating Ricky Hatton) but i do disagree on how you think it will be. I learned a long time ago dont base who could beat who because of who they each fought in the past because while logically it seems like a good measuring stick its not. Look at say; Bernard Hopkins and Jermain Taylor. Taylor won a decision over hopkins (twice) and Pavlik won a decision (and via knockout) over taylor twice...so does that mean pavlik would bury hopkins and knockhim out within 4 rounds if they fought? no. you cant base it off that. I think Paulie Malignaggi will defeat hatton however. Paulie is a textbook pure boxer...doesnt have great power (he has poor power; very poor power); and he has pretty solid defense. His jab is his best tool and should use it early and often. Stick and move from the outside (not allowing hatton inside at all which he will be trying to do as he has the shorter reach). Paulie's biggest issues in this fight will be; how to keep hatton away with paulie's lack of power? and can paulie tie hatton up when he bullies his way inside? Hatton on the other hand MUST fight on the inside. he has short arms; the shorter fighter; etc. and it plays into his style as he likes to fight inside. Hatton is going to need to implement a jab if he stands a chance at winning. if all he does is bully his way in and swing like a wildman he will get a boxing clinic from paulie...so hatton needs to come in and out off the jab. in fact hatton shouldnt even as much as blink without the jab. when hatton does get inside on paulie he needs to make the most of it. he needs to go with combinations to the body to slow paulie down. left hooks to the body and uppercuts to the body...hatton needs to slow paulie down with the body attack...and in the later rounds gun for the knockout. that will be his best chance... its very unlikely (damn near impossible) that paulie will win by knockout and very unlikely (damn near impossible) hatton will win a decision over a boxer as textbook as paulie. so paulie needs to stick and move and attempt to make the fight (as many seem to say as), "boring" as possible to cruise to a decision and hatton needs to work behind the jab and work the body; and gun for a knockout in the late rounds. My pick: Paulie Malignaggi via close decision Awesome post man. Good read and i totally agree. People keep looking at Paulies last 2 fights and i keep saying about Paulie's and him sometimes being over-confident, he was champ vs N'goudjo and expected to step in there and just win, then N'Dou II he destroyed the guy once and expected to step in there and do it again though in fairness he broke his hand half through and the other half of the fight he had hair in his face. Hatton is a different kind of fish. His the guy Paulie has wanted for years and now he has got his man. Paulie will be up for this like he was Cotto and N'Dou (both for Paulie to become champ) and will have his best fight in his career to date and biggest win. I have said from day one, UD for Paulie and nothing will change, Paulie knows this is a HUGE fight, make or break for his career basically and he will be ready to go. Cant wait for this and liking all the Paulie/Hatton threads popping up.

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Yea but these fighters have completly different footwork and styles of agression so how can you compare that way? Well because I can. Sometimes it's just easy to see a fighters abilities. Hatton showed me everything I needed to know vs Collazo, then Mayweather and then Lazcano, for me to be pretty sure that a Malignaggie type of fighter has what it takes to box his ears off. Him putting on a brave performance in a losing effort against Cotto only confirms that. Hatton can't hurt him.

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In some cases it does. When you have the classic boxer vs brawler/pressure fighter showdown. Malignaggie was that guy Vs Cotto and he took everything Cotto had and went the distance losing 116-112 or something winning a few rounds in the process. Not many people took everything Cotto has and made it all 12 rounds and Malignaggie did. So I don't see a lighter hitting, less accurate smaller fighter in Hatton doing as good or bettter then Cotto did. Yes he puts on great pressure but it has already been proven that he isn't as good at it as Jose Louis Castillo. Some Hatton fans tried to make the analogy that Hatton fight just like Castillo but does everything better. That has been proven wrong. In fact, just his last fight vs Lazcano, he got caught with some Mayweather-ish counter punches and Lazcano is a garbage fighter. Btw i agree with you about the outcome, did you read the rest of the post?

I can't say i disagree on what you expect the outcome to be (ie. Paulie Malignaggi beating Ricky Hatton) but i do disagree on how you think it will be. I learned a long time ago dont base who could beat who because of who they each fought in the past because while logically it seems like a good measuring stick its not. Look at say; Bernard Hopkins and Jermain Taylor. Taylor won a decision over hopkins (twice) and Pavlik won a decision (and via knockout) over taylor twice...so does that mean pavlik would bury hopkins and knockhim out within 4 rounds if they fought? no. you cant base it off that. I think Paulie Malignaggi will defeat hatton however. Paulie is a textbook pure boxer...doesnt have great power (he has poor power; very poor power); and he has pretty solid defense. His jab is his best tool and should use it early and often. Stick and move from the outside (not allowing hatton inside at all which he will be trying to do as he has the shorter reach). Paulie's biggest issues in this fight will be; how to keep hatton away with paulie's lack of power? and can paulie tie hatton up when he bullies his way inside? Hatton on the other hand MUST fight on the inside. he has short arms; the shorter fighter; etc. and it plays into his style as he likes to fight inside. Hatton is going to need to implement a jab if he stands a chance at winning. if all he does is bully his way in and swing like a wildman he will get a boxing clinic from paulie...so hatton needs to come in and out off the jab. in fact hatton shouldnt even as much as blink without the jab. when hatton does get inside on paulie he needs to make the most of it. he needs to go with combinations to the body to slow paulie down. left hooks to the body and uppercuts to the body...hatton needs to slow paulie down with the body attack...and in the later rounds gun for the knockout. that will be his best chance... its very unlikely (damn near impossible) that paulie will win by knockout and very unlikely (damn near impossible) hatton will win a decision over a boxer as textbook as paulie. so paulie needs to stick and move and attempt to make the fight (as many seem to say as), "boring" as possible to cruise to a decision and hatton needs to work behind the jab and work the body; and gun for a knockout in the late rounds. My pick: Paulie Malignaggi via close decision glad you took the time to make a real fight breakdown... I think you nailed it pretty much.. I would just add that Ricky should probably jab to the body a lot to work his way in and occasionally try to counter Paulie's jab with a straight right to the body, (preferably the ribs right under that extended left).. For Paulie, the health of his hands come into play. If they can hold up so he can throw a stiff jab while stepping side to side he can keep Ricky from getting that bouncing rhythm he seems to need to be effective. A stiff jab with just enough of a straight right to keep Ricky from bulldozing, along with a lot of angles in the middle of the ring will get Paulie the win. He's tough enough and if his conditioning is there he can pull out the decision.:boxing:

In some cases it does. When you have the classic boxer vs brawler/pressure fighter showdown. Malignaggie was that guy Vs Cotto and he took everything Cotto had and went the distance losing 116-112 or something winning a few rounds in the process. Not many people took everything Cotto has and made it all 12 rounds and Malignaggie did. So I don't see a lighter hitting, less accurate smaller fighter in Hatton doing as good or bettter then Cotto did. Yes he puts on great pressure but it has already been proven that he isn't as good at it as Jose Louis Castillo. Some Hatton fans tried to make the analogy that Hatton fight just like Castillo but does everything better. That has been proven wrong. Yea but these fighters have completly different footwork and styles of agression so how can you compare that way?

The fighter A did well against fighter B so he will beat fighter C because Fighter C did bad against fighter D stuff is never correct in any way so i dont at all understand the analogy . In some cases it does. When you have the classic boxer vs brawler/pressure fighter showdown. Malignaggie was that guy Vs Cotto and he took everything Cotto had and went the distance losing 116-112 or something winning a few rounds in the process. Not many people took everything Cotto has and made it all 12 rounds and Malignaggie did. So I don't see a lighter hitting, less accurate smaller fighter in Hatton doing as good or bettter then Cotto did. Yes he puts on great pressure but it has already been proven that he isn't as good at it as Jose Louis Castillo. Some Hatton fans tried to make the analogy that Hatton fight just like Castillo but does everything better. That has been proven wrong. In fact, just his last fight vs Lazcano, he got caught with some Mayweather-ish counter punches and Lazcano is a garbage fighter.

Well me and you just fundementally disagree on hatton's abilities as a fighter. The Lazcano performance did it for me, as unimpressive Malignaggie was on the undercard vs N'dou, he is still prime physically and mentally. He proved that with a dominating performance vs Ednar Cherry in his first fight back after the Cotto beating. Hatton to me looks done. He was never that impressive to beging with but now he has lost his mental edge, not being undefeated anymore. That was his best attribute and he no longer has it. i agree i think Hatton is on the slide too but i think Malignaggi does not have what it takes to earn Hattons respect to stop him doing what he has to do to win the fight and im not just talking about Paulie's lack of power im talking about the damage he stustains in his fights and his inhability to stand his ground which IMO will be a major factor in this fight Hatton will tie him up and walk him back you should not underestimate how dirty Hatton is and how it works to his advantage in his fights IE Kostya Tszyu if Tszyu had gotten any kind of distance between him and Hatton he would probably have Koed Hatton but Hatton's dirty bullrushing tactics made him harder to hurt and neutralised Tszyu's power

The fighter A did well against fighter B so he will beat fighter C because Fighter C did bad against fighter D stuff is never correct in any way so i dont at all understand the analogy but I agree that paulie M will beat hatton. I just posted the reason why here http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=204952 i dont think i need to post it again but thats what I think.

I would disagree there, I think he would have won if he had just been more active. He let Hatton outwork him too much which cost him the decision IMO. I think Hatton will beat Paulie, But as long as Paulie boxes all 12 he can deffinatly win this one. Watch the fight again, he tried to move around in the first round but couldn't and got flash knocked down. After that, he resorted to standing in front of Hatton and cooperating with him, letting him punch & hold. Collazo is not on Cory Spinks's or Malignaggie's level of one-dimensional feather fisted boxing. He is a fighter just like them, relying on alot of movement BUT not as good at it as they are.

to a degree yes but that is why he got bust the fuck up the difference is Hatton is not going to allow him to meet him in the centre of the ring the way Cotto did Hatton is going to physically push him back to the ropes and ruff house him biggest difference between Collazo & Paulie is one is orthadox one is a lefty and Paulie takes punishment when he Boxes or trades with his oponents Well me and you just fundementally disagree on hatton's abilities as a fighter. The Lazcano performance did it for me, as unimpressive Malignaggie was on the undercard vs N'dou, he is still prime physically and mentally. He proved that with a dominating performance vs Ednar Cherry in his first fight back after the Cotto beating. Hatton to me looks done. He was never that impressive to beging with but now he has lost his mental edge, not being undefeated anymore. That was his best attribute and he no longer has it.

You're right. Keys to Victory for Malignaggie: Durable Legs. And Malignaggie has that and can go on a bicycle and be effective doing it all night. Had Collazo used his legs better, he would have come out victorious. Unstead he let Hatton hold him and force him into his type of fight, which cost him rounds. I would disagree there, I think he would have won if he had just been more active. He let Hatton outwork him too much which cost him the decision IMO. I think Hatton will beat Paulie, But as long as Paulie boxes all 12 he can deffinatly win this one.

Hold it right there. Didn't Malignaggie stand in front of Cotto??? That was just as IF not more impressive then what Collazo did Vs Hatton. I don't recall Collazo having the "balls" of coming forward against Sugar Shane when he was behind badly on the scorecards. to a degree yes but that is why he got bust the fuck up the difference is Hatton is not going to allow him to meet him in the centre of the ring the way Cotto did Hatton is going to physically push him back to the ropes and ruff house him biggest difference between Collazo & Paulie is one is orthadox one is a lefty and Paulie takes punishment when he Boxes or trades with his oponents what does the Shane fight have to do with anything different fighter and Collazo was not backing off against Shane majority of the time he had the centre of the ring and Shane was on the backfoot