P4P whos better? Roy or Floyd

^^^^^ Just because Floyd throws sharper punches doesn't mean he has an advantage over Jones. Jones was never really bothered by sharp punchers (or anything for that matter). If you watch Toney-Barkley, you can see how sharp of a puncher James Toney is. Even though Oscar was huge compared to Floyd, that doesn't make any sense as to why Oscar's jab landed so frequently. All that means is that the jab that landed so frequently was going to be a lot more forceful than Floyd had experienced previous to that. I still am not sure either way, but based on what happened in their careers, it does seem like Jones would have a slight advantage. Whether that would mean shit in the ring, we'll never know. By the way, I've seen all of Floyd's fights, and the reason he looks so sharp at 140 (as well as powerful, and just overall ridiculously dominant) was because he really didn't fight anyone of great quality. Corley or Gatti is the best fighter on his resume at 140, which really... isn't anything to brag about.

Very, very difficult to say. Mayweather does seem to be bothered by very sharp punchers (the Oscar jab was a good example), and Jones punches pretty sharp. Jones also made a defensive guru look terrible when he whipped James Toney's ass. I'd say Jones, but in honesty, we haven't seen enough weakness from either of their prime selves to make even a partially educated guess on this one. I go Jones just because he faced less resistance in the ring during his prime. And don't give me that shit about him only facing horrible fighters. The James Toney that Jones beat was considered better at the time than any fighter Mayweather has faced (as in, Toney was more respected in 1994 than Castillo was in 2002, Corrales in 2001, Hatton in 2007, etc.). Very difficult question to answer.mayweather was bothered by oscar's sharp punches at the highest weight of his career, and past his prime imo. his prime was in late 04 and 2005 imo, when he didn't have problems with sharp punchers, just wild punchers who threw awkward shots from weird angles like chop chop did and bruselles did. floyd's methodical intelligence in the ring was not matched and still isn't. roy was flashy, floyd was methodical fluent. if they fought at the same weight naturally with their styles, i'd pick floyd everytime over jones, every single time, he did more things better, like jab, block, counter imo, although that one is close, threw much sharper punches, this is critical, at 140, floyd threw sharp punches, punches thrown right, and his timing was better than roy's was, he fought off the ropes better, he did everything better, because roy hit harder, and roy may have had faster hands, although that can be argued also to the tee, roy moved more, floyd was faster overall, faster upperbody movement, not just head movement, roy was fast with that also, but faster upperbody movement, especially off of the ropes? roy sucked, floyd killed him in this department too. floyd takes this one.

I think Roy would be my pick had he not gotten ko'd by the LHW's. He also fought John Ruiz for a title.... and he sucks. So Floyd...but I could be wrong

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If they were the same size, I think a prime Roy beats a prime Mayweather. But they're both very good.

The quality of opposition is so immense, you can't possibly claim Roy has fought half the competition Mayweather has. People just love Roy for his power, but Mayweather has done more in his time and without ever losing or really even coming close. His only close fight was the one he only had ONE hand.

ROY JONES hands DOWNN!! am always down with roy, its sad that i think mayweather is more popular with his wwe thing, there wont be no other like Roy!!!!

Jones was an uncontested P4P and there was no one who would question it. When Jones was P4P king no one gave a chance to whoever he was fighting, he looked invincible. Roy was truly a no question asked P4P king. Floyd on the other hand is a talented fighter that dissapoints more than he impresses. Only his flomos think he's unbeatable and if he doen't fight a real challenger soon he will lose his status. Floyd is a questionable P4P that is more hype than sustance.

Roy Jones was has more talent, Mayweather has more skill. I think Roy Jones was better P4P though...

Floyd has the better resume, and I doubt floyd would lose to tarver if Floyd was in the same weight class.

Prime Roy Jones Prime Maweather Mayweather is the superior techincal boxer. RJJ is a more phenomenal athlete.

Roy's a lot easier to respect at his p4p peak than Floyd is at his. Jones was thoroughly dominant at the height of his career and cleaned out his division (175). Floyd ain't cleaned out shit at WW.

Floyd has better fundamentals and is more sound, but Roy was a phenom. Classically trained vs one in a million talent. I agree, I think "skill-wise" Floyd is better, IMO Roy relied too much on his athletic ability & once he lost a step, Tarver & Johnson "dented" him! IMO these are 2 guys that Roy would have prob would have beaten soundly in his prime...I was just as shocked as everyone else, but you just don't go from Superman to Clark Kent like that! I mean athletic, "Past" it fighters like Sweat Pea & James Toney (I know he's not offically retired...but) didn't get knocked out (cold) even when their respective reflexes left them! Even Larry Merchant said "He never saw a great fighter out cold"... Roy's Resume was not the best & Floyd's isn't either, but overall I voted Floyd!

Very, very difficult to say. Mayweather does seem to be bothered by very sharp punchers (the Oscar jab was a good example), and Jones punches pretty sharp. Jones also made a defensive guru look terrible when he whipped James Toney's ass. I'd say Jones, but in honesty, we haven't seen enough weakness from either of their prime selves to make even a partially educated guess on this one. I go Jones just because he faced less resistance in the ring during his prime. And don't give me that shit about him only facing horrible fighters. The James Toney that Jones beat was considered better at the time than any fighter Mayweather has faced (as in, Toney was more respected in 1994 than Castillo was in 2002, Corrales in 2001, Hatton in 2007, etc.). Very difficult question to answer.

Mayweather has been in his prime in the last couple of years, the comparison of opponents is not even comparable, Mayweather takes this hands down, u guys are in denial It's hard for me to imagine Mayweather beating Jones if they were in the same weight class..

Floyd has better fundamentals and is more sound, but Roy was a phenom. Classically trained vs one in a million talent. I voted roy

you guys know i'm going with floyd, and again, what is his prime? imo it was when he was at 140 as far as power, speed, and accuracy with immaculate defense. he punched sharper than roy. his defense was better than roy's was. he moved more fluently. he jabbed much better than roy to the head and body. his left hook could be argued as thrown better than roy's. floyd was the total package. why do think he is considered the greatest fighter of his era? he dominated his opponents just as much as roy did, if not more. roy has him on power and maybe even handspeed as far quick combos go, but floyd was much faster overall and moved much better off of the ropes where roy was vulnerable to, and i have both of their careers on tapes and dvd's, and have watched them exstensively, so i know what i'm talking about. roy was special, amazing to watch, a conerstone in boxing history, bar none, arguably the most elusive 160-175 pound fighter i have ever seen, but floyd is boxing to the core. it's hard to compare who was better without... i have to finish this later. anway, like i was posting, floyd is the most fluent fighter of the past 3 decades, and it's no comparison. i watched 3 fights that floyd fought at 140, corley, gatti, and bruselles, and i haven't seen roy look in any form like mayweather did those 3 fights. floyd had it all, and had it not been for his brittle hands, i guarantee you all, he would have had much more ko's on his record. floyd was considered a big super featherweight at 130, but when he moved up, he looked smaller than majority of his opponents and he really was, but he made them look like amateur fighters, he was that good. and i take floyd's sixe into consideration when talking about him being better than roy, because roy was bigger than a lot of his opponents and floyd was smaller than a lot of his, hell more than a lot. i haven;t seen a performance from jones jr besides when he fought that argentinian dude, that has been more dominant than floyd against gatti, coralles, and corley, and floyd didn't have to rely on just his reflexes, which were on those fights also, he used his amazing blocking, upperbody postioning, faints were spectacular, counterpunching off of the ropes and making his opponent miss after a counterpunch like he did with chop chop, those things that people really don't focus on, i do in depth, and he just looked like the perfect boxer in those fights. roy has amazing reflexes, but his blocking sucked and he had one of the worst jabs i have ever seen and threw it out there like a sucker in his prime, and although it improved slightly to some degree as he moved up, overall it sucked. floyd used his jab more at 130, but when he fought gatti, he used it very fluently, and he his stance was just phenomenal. floyd had the style that was un touchable, and still does. floyd threw a fast and hard snapping jab and a hard pushed jab to the stomach, and the combination he threw at gatti in the 6th round was one of the greatest i have seen of the last 40 years. floyd just knew where he was mostly at all times and his defense was 2nd to none. tell me another fighter, including roy jones that could counter a fighter with a jab to the stomach, like floyd did with justin jukko, a fight he calls his best performance ever, and i have brought this fight up many times as to him being on that night. roy was very risky with his style which i feel is a big reason he is adored by many today, especially on this forum, because of how dynamic he was and his unorthodox he was. he wasn't your tradtional fighter/boxer, he brougt a style that was flashy as shit and his athleticism just amazed people, but in no way was he a better athlete than floyd was, floyd's stamina lasted the whole fight, and he could fight 15 rounds i guarantee you all, because floyd's jab had the same snap it had in the 1st round in the 10th, 11th, and 12th rounds of his fights. floyd takes this one, because he used his style better than roy, and did everything right. floyd could do more than roy did in his prime, but roy's athleticism and dynamics kept people in awe with him and kept their minds away from his weaknesses, which he got away it because of this. floyd, although he has weaknesses also, was more fundamentally sound, which is why he was able to do what he did as he aged and it still doing it now. floyd takes this one easily, and this thread has been made countless amounts of time.

might catch some heat 4 this...fuck it tho, roys a legend imo

RJJ no doubt.

Roy was the baddest man on the planet! The same can't be said for Mayweather.