The thread about Cotto not bein important sparked a conversation between some people over here. Did Floyd hope it would come to this (eventually havin to fight the Cotto-Margarito winner, his clear #1 challenger) cuz he feels he has a better chance beatin Margarito or Cotto after they do some serious damage to each other? Is he hopin Marg does his dirty work for him and beats Cotto cuz he thinks Tony is the easier opponent, or vice versa? Is he tryin to build anticipation to make the Cotto fight as rich as possible, or is he just flat out scared shitless?
He's trying to let Margarito take a bit out of Cotto and then fight Cotto if Cotto wins.
Margarito is an easier opponent for Mayweather because Mayweather's style is perfect to offset Margarito's.
And, he's also making the fans salivate for the fight so he can make more money from it.
I think he definitely wants Cotto to win though. Cotto can potentailly bring more $$$ to the table than margarito and he also brings his undefeated record as well. Money and legacy is Mayweather trademark, P4P Baby!!
I'm a little surprised honestly. To me that's giving Floyd alot of credit in terms of future-sight. Maybe more than a person can have. Floyd didn't think Cotto could beat Judah or Mosley. I wonder if he thinks Cotto can beat Margarito.
The idea that Floyd is legitimately waiting for the Cotto fight to blowup into something bigger is not really it to me at all. Isn't that just him gassing about why he won't fight Cotto?
I'm fast losin patience with him, but I still respect Floyd for now so I've been willin to give him the benefit of the doubt. I'm sure in his heart he'd love to see Cotto KTFO by Tony, but in his head he'd love the big payday of a Cotto fight. The greed in him would make him feel better takin a risky fight he don't want for a shitload of money than watchin Cotto lose and not takin any fight at all. I wanna believe if Marg wins Floyd would man up and fight him, but there's a bigger chance he'd say fuck it and retire if Tony won than if Cotto won.
funny thing about floyd is ,he thinks he's the greatest,and when he says it his fans believe it.so him wanting to retire is justified to them.but the fact of the matter is he isn't.and anyone who disagrees IS a fan boy.it's cool for him to let the fight stew,but his fans need to be converted to the truth,he aint the fucking greatest,no matter how much he says it.
I don't think Floyd's pride will allow him to retire without facin the winner of this fight cuz he'd get torn to shreds by the public, and in that case any hate towards him would be 100% justified. I think he wants the Cotto fight to be as big as possible, so he's puttin it off as long as he can, which is the end of this year after he fights DLH again and the Cotto-Marg fight is over with. I agree he'd get away with dodgin Marg if he won more so than Cotto, but since Cotto is worth more $, I don't think he'd want Miguel to lose.
I'm a little surprised honestly. To me that's giving Floyd alot of credit in terms of future-sight. Maybe more than a person can have. Floyd didn't think Cotto could beat Judah or Mosley. I wonder if he thinks Cotto can beat Margarito.
The idea that Floyd is legitimately waiting for the Cotto fight to blowup into something bigger is not really it to me at all. Isn't that just him gassing about why he won't fight Cotto?
I would have to disagree respectufully. I think my basis is just on seeing how Floyd was when he was trying to make a name for himself. He was calling out an undefeated Shane Mosley when he was still at 130. Now his bases is more on money than the opponent, I don't think he cares who he faces as long as he is making top dollar. He will fight either of them if they get him to rake in the dough.
Really? You make Floyd sound like a fearless gigolo.
I honestly think Floyd is conscientious of losing, and he's watching all the angles. Look how he fights, symbolically.. He's pragmatic this guy.. I don't think he'll fight anyone he isn't 110% he can beat fairly easily at this stage. His pockets are fat. He'll only fight for the spotlight, that's what I'm seeing.
As I just said in the other thread; Floyd is not keen on natural pressure fighters. Some people would argue that Margarito and Cotto are both natural pressure fighters.
I like the way you did this because even though our questions are similiar, they're completely different. The thing I keyed on here is; I think immediately in Floyd's mind he wants Margarito to beat Cotto for him. He can still avoid Margo for the most part like Mech said.. I think he wants Cotto knocked out the box for all the talk. At the very least.. Floyd doesn't seem to have problems acting like these guys aren't right in front of him anyway.
I don't think Floyd's pride will allow him to retire without facin the winner of this fight cuz he'd get torn to shreds by the public, and in that case any hate towards him would be 100% justified. I think he wants the Cotto fight to be as big as possible, so he's puttin it off as long as he can, which is the end of this year after he fights DLH again and the Cotto-Marg fight is over with. I agree he'd get away with dodgin Marg if he won more so than Cotto, but since Cotto is worth more $, I don't think he'd want Miguel to lose.
Mayweather easily beats Margarito, the same way he beat Baldomir. Cotto would be a tougher fight, although I think it’s a fight he could win. But if Margarito beats Cotto – which is a strong possibility, I don’t think the Cotto-Mayweather fight will ever happen, even though it should.
I would like to see Mayweather in against someone with some speed like a Mosley or Clottey. When was the last time he fought someone who was as quick as him…besides Zab Judah. Mayweather’s made his money, now he needs to cement his legacy by fighting the best out there(in his division)….before his skills are diminished.
I like the way you did this because even though our questions are similiar, they're completely different. The thing I keyed on here is; I think immediately in Floyd's mind he wants Margarito to beat Cotto for him. He can still avoid Margo for the most part like Mech said.. I think he wants Cotto knocked out the box for all the talk. At the very least.. Floyd doesn't seem to have problems acting like these guys aren't right in front of him anyway.
I would have to disagree respectufully. I think my basis is just on seeing how Floyd was when he was trying to make a name for himself. He was calling out an undefeated Shane Mosley when he was still at 130. Now his bases is more on money than the opponent, I don't think he cares who he faces as long as he is making top dollar. He will fight either of them if they get him to rake in the dough.
I like the way you did this because even though our questions are similiar, they're completely different. The thing I keyed on here is; I think immediately in Floyd's mind he wants Margarito to beat Cotto for him. He can still avoid Margo for the most part like Mech said.. I think he wants Cotto knocked out the box for all the talk. At the very least.. Floyd doesn't seem to have problems acting like these guys aren't right in front of him anyway.
Margarito and Cotto are the best challengers out there for Mayweather, so they should fight each other to see who is the better man. The winner will become an even bigger name than they are already meaning the fight with Mayweather will be worth even more money! That is providing Mayweather beats Oscar and Hatton, which I'm sure he will. Then Mayweather can retire undefeated!
He's trying to let Margarito take a bit out of Cotto and then fight Cotto if Cotto wins.
Margarito is an easier opponent for Mayweather because Mayweather's style is perfect to offset Margarito's.
And, he's also making the fans salivate for the fight so he can make more money from it.
Agreed. Whoever wins may not be what they used to be after that, since the fight is likely to be a war with both taking heavy damage. Then he'll say say the loser sucks and he never should have fought him and the winner sucks since he had such a hard time. He might fight the winner though but they won't be what they were possibly.
He's trying to let Margarito take a bit out of Cotto and then fight Cotto if Cotto wins.
Margarito is an easier opponent for Mayweather because Mayweather's style is perfect to offset Margarito's.
And, he's also making the fans salivate for the fight so he can make more money from it.
I made this exact statement like a month ago.
This will turn out just like Leonard/Hagler. Leonard only took a fight with Hagler after Mugabi took a ton out of Hagler. The same's going to happen when Margarito takes a ton out of Cotto. That's when Floyd will jump in.