maybe in his "fat" days but in his prime he had good defense and okay head movement. nothing great but he was solid.
he is slow footed but most heavyweights are and he can't fight going backwards because of his style. he can't fight on the outside with such a height and reach disadvantage he'll get jabbed to death.
as far as the rahman fight. the 2nd fight draw was generous to say the least to tua. the 1st fight although was stopped prematurely i think he would have stopped rahman. the shot hasim took after the bell already rung really hurt him. he was still defending ok but one more flush hook would've hurt him again.He was a B fighter his prime that's all I can say. A b class fighter. He was never considered great because of his limited skills.
I dont know, when I think of a One dimensional fighter I think of the following scenario:
What fighter has one specific thing (can't be to general) that if it gets neutralized or if u do it to them will mean disaster for them.
Examples:
Tua, if you can neutralize that left hook he is done.....ala Lennox Lewis.
Darchinyan, if you can avoid that looping right he is in trouble.
Cintron, you get inside on him and he is in trouble.
Mayweather, you take away his left hand, well his right hand too, maybe even amputate his legs and he becomes a one dimensional punching bag.....LOL j/k.
LOL! Tua's only arsenal was his power. He can only go forward. No defense, slow, can't fight going backwards. Rahman schooled him twice but got unlucky. First fight was a controversial early stoppage the second time he got a draw which rahman clearly won it.
maybe in his "fat" days but in his prime he had good defense and okay head movement. nothing great but he was solid.
he is slow footed but most heavyweights are and he can't fight going backwards because of his style. he can't fight on the outside with such a height and reach disadvantage he'll get jabbed to death.
as far as the rahman fight. the 2nd fight draw was generous to say the least to tua. the 1st fight although was stopped prematurely i think he would have stopped rahman. the shot hasim took after the bell already rung really hurt him. he was still defending ok but one more flush hook would've hurt him again.
wrong. tua in his younger days had solid skills. he had good upper body movement and good defense. he might get hit a lot but what slugger doesn't? to be close enough to land a punch you have to be close enough to receive a punch. even harder when all your opponents have height and reach advantages over you.
being one dimensional doesn't mean NO skills. tua was 5'10 fighting guys 6'1-6'4 which large reach advantages. his size predicated that he fight on the inside.LOL! Tua's only arsenal was his power. He can only go forward. No defense, slow, can't fight going backwards. Rahman schooled him twice but got unlucky. First fight was a controversial early stoppage the second time he got a draw which rahman clearly won it.
I don't really think there is such a thing as a 1 dimensional fighter.
If there was, they won't be where they are right now.
Otherwise you would figure them out from the 1st round.
You're really on a mission to discredit Joe, aren't you, Addison?
No need, Tunney. He's already done that himself.
It seems like you're on a mission to suck him off. :blowjob:
Pavlik may be one-dimensional, but his one dimension is friggin deep. I wouldn't put him on the list because he is so excellent at what he does. Samuel Peter is a very limited one-dimensional fighter, but he is a heavyweight so its excusable. Juan Diaz is one dimensional to a fault.
Anybody that puts Cotto, Pacquaio, or Calzaghe on the list is a bit touched in the head.
That's primarily the reason that he is one-dimensional at this point, because he has never had to shift out of his plan A. When someone figures out how to stop the 1-2, he is going to be in trouble.
Nice to see you back Wiley, it's been a while.
Kelly Pavlik- slowly come forward, throw either a 1-2, or a 1-1-2. Sometimes a 1-3-2. If knocked backwards bull forward
Joe Calzaghe- just move your hand 750-1000 times a fight, look like a 12 round amateur fight
Please keep in mind that one-dimensional does not disqualify a fighter from being good. Kelly Pavlik is one-dimensional. Kelly Pavlik is a good fighter. The truly great elite fighters are the ones who can at least make a fight against their stylistic nightmare a close loss, or even a win.
If you can't adjust at all effectively when you are losing, you are probably one-dimensional.
Tarver against Hopkins showed that he was having a bad night, but even on a good night, he is so one-dimensional, being a defensive first 1-2 fighter, that it probably wouldn't have made much of a difference.
Anyone who said Cotto hasn't seen his fights, is a hater or is just a fucking idiot. That dude has more angles to his game than Mayweather. Cotto can box, brawl, pressure, pretty much everything. I haven't seen anything like it since Marco Antonio Barrera.
Pavlik may be one-dimensional, but his one dimension is friggin deep. I wouldn't put him on the list because he is so excellent at what he does. Samuel Peter is a very limited one-dimensional fighter, but he is a heavyweight so its excusable. Juan Diaz is one dimensional to a fault.
Anybody that puts Cotto, Pacquaio, or Calzaghe on the list is a bit touched in the head.
Kelly Pavlik also overcame someone who has the best jab in boxing as well as a dramatic speed advantage. He Did it with Heart, Strength, Determination and grit when Taylor hurt him in the first fight and then took his right hand away in their second fight. Is he still one dimensional?
Pavlik is not a world beater, nobody is, but he works with what he has and does a damn good job with the tools he got.
You have to take intangibles into consideration with any fighter. A gifted fighter, without heart, will amount to nothing.
Pavlik overcame Taylor's arsenal with his workrate of 1-2's. Taylor's defense is bad enough to let him do that.
Once again, keep in mind that one-dimensional does not automatically disqualify a fighter from being a good fighter, or even take them out of the elite category. They will just be in trouble if someone figures out how to counter their plan A.
Cotto, Hatton, Calzaghe, Pavlik, Mayorga.
Calzaghe and Cotto are not one dimensional. Not only can they both bring the fight to their opponents, but they also have good hand speed and boxing ability as well. When you think about a one dimensional fighter, then you want to look at someone along the lines of Tarver, Pacquaio, Mayorga, Kessler, Foreman ect.