Glenn Johnson Speaks The Truth

I'm guessing you had money on Johnson... I had money on a 4 fight parlay - Margarito, Cotto, Tarver and Johnson. Basically I was betting Johnson (because I was sure of the other three) at 9-1 as opposed to takig him straight up at 2.8-1. I thought at WORST Johnson should have gotten the draw...but he's on the way out, and kinda serves as the industry's door mat... Promoter X: "Hey, we need to put our guy in with someone we can completely fucking shaft if he appears to lose a closer one than expected. You have any ideas?" HBO, SHO, or SKY: "What happened, Glenn Johnson is not around anymore?" Promotor X: "Oh shit. That's right. Ole Glenn the Go-To. No Vaseline necessary. I always forget about him." Glenn prob should have tried to bank one more middle round to seal it, but still , 8-4 was fucking ridiculous. I thought Gentleman Glenn caught/blocked a lot of Dawson's punches with his gloves, but they're looking to make some money off of Chad, so guys like Glenn are going to get fucked.

I had Johnson up 7 to 5 and a couple of his rounds coulda been 10-8. He got fucked over. Dawson owes him a 2nd fight.

Good post, ST, good to see you, my man. :beerchug: On TV it honestly looked like Dawson was connecting a fair amount but Johnson did look pretty damn clean. :lol1: Nice to see you are still around as well, I've been gone awhile from the boards, but I will try to spend more time posting. Cheers my friend...

I was routing for Chad Dawson, but I had Johnson winning, so did everyone I know.

I thought Johnson won 7-5. That said, if Dawson doesn't give him an immediate rematch then that tells me Dawson thinks he lost too. Something tells me that Dawson has his heart set on the easier fight with Tarver. Agreed, and i think dawson/tarver sells better... I don't know about that - for two reasons: 1. Showtime would have no problem playing up the "controversial decision" side in promoting the fight, and have plenty of fight footage to edit the fight to make it look "spectacular" as Johnson really rocked Dawson on more than a couple occasions, and Dawson did hit Johnson with "one" good shot that would have put some fighters on the canvas. 2. Styles do indeed make for great fights, and with a Tarver vs Dawson matchup, both fighters like to dance around and throw "pot shots" from outside, this fight would have lots of footwork, but not anywhere near as much "in your face" action as a fight that involves a Glenn Johnson. As for me personaly - I can't stand watching a "jabfest matchup" - I would rather take a nap ...

I thought Johnson won 7-5. That said, if Dawson doesn't give him an immediate rematch then that tells me Dawson thinks he lost too. Something tells me that Dawson has his heart set on the easier fight with Tarver. I have no doubt in my mind that Dawson knows he got beat, that said, you can bet the house that he wants no more of Glenn Johnson. As far as I am concerned, Johnson is indeed the "Gatekeeper" of the division - you gotta get past him to be the King of the Mountain. For his part, Dawson "snuck out the back door" with the belts, because if the fight is scored by who LANDED the clean shots, and not the "jabs to the forearms" he loses, simple as that....

It's up to Showtime, really.. Agreed, and i think dawson/tarver sells better...

I thought Johnson won 7-5. That said, if Dawson doesn't give him an immediate rematch then that tells me Dawson thinks he lost too. Something tells me that Dawson has his heart set on the easier fight with Tarver. It's up to Showtime, really..

it's just a flat out injustice in our sport that incompetent judges can't see the real winner, they can't see the true skill that is/was going on, johnson was picking off those shots and that is what i was saying to my buddies during the fight. i was saying look at that skill, guy is walking through everything barely getting touched!!!! i threw a fucking fitz!!!!! when i heard the scores against johnson, it should have been a unanimous decision for johnson all the way through. it's a real travesty, i'm glad and support johnson in his appeal and anyone else who is one his side, it's truly fucked up to take that away from a guy, a guy that has given nothing but good to the sport, a guy that has been patient and had enough bad beats in the sport. they did the same thing to hopkins with taylor, they robbed him for the younger more marketable guy, at least so they thought/think. taylor didn't take the belt away from hopkins, just as johnson took the fight to dawson and took the belts away from dawson, or so he should've been awarded the belts. that is what is fucked up about this sport, and the fucked up politics about boxing, all the way from the greasy promoters and all involved in fixing fights, that shit was a fix if i've ever seen one, paid off judges for sure.............................!!!!!!!!!!!!!! complete crap, johnson is the champion, no doubt. i just hope they flip it or give him another shot........................but they should flip it. also to note, i like what he said about not buying into dawson's fights and shit, boycotting his fights so they can't sell him as a attraction and shit, that is right, that is what needs to be done, that is how i feel about gary "shithead" shaw, that corrupt fat pervert fuck, i can't stand that douche bag, it seems that one way or another people get seriously fucked being around that guy.............hhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmm????? fat piece of shit..

I just finished watching parts 1,2 & 3 of Glenn Johnson speaking out on the Dawson fight. The man spoke the truth, the piece was filmed just 2 days after the fight, and Johnson has no swelling, no bruising - not a sign of even being in a fight with Dawson. As Glenn said, Dawson threw 90% of his punches at Johnson's head, and there isn't a single mark on him - and why is that? Because, as Johnson correctly stated, he blocked nearly everything with his gloves and forearms. For the record, Dawson's face is swollen so bad his Mom wouldn't recognize him, because Glenn Johnson was able to deliver punches that actually LANDED! Look, I have been involved in the sport before some of you around here were even born, and I for one am tired of judges who do not score a bout under the very criteria set forth under the Unified Rules Of Boxing. You cannot score points for punches that are not landed "clean and effective". Certainly, you cannot be awarded a round in which your opponant is the "effective aggressor" and the one landing the "clean shots", while your punches are being blocked. In other words - if you are running, and you are not landing punches - while your opponant is busy beating you about the head and shoulders - and body too for that matter - you lose the round - pretty simple. If one fighter has the edge in two out of three of those rules for scoring a round - he is supposed to be awarded the round!!! Pretty friggin' simple. Rocket Scientists need not apply!!! The three judges for the Johnson vs Dawson fight should have their state license revoked, and never be allowed to judge a fight again - period. Furthermore the Florida Boxing Com. should seriously do some MAJOR house cleaning because it STINKS TO HIGH HELL and has for YEARS NOW. I thought Johnson won 7-5. That said, if Dawson doesn't give him an immediate rematch then that tells me Dawson thinks he lost too. Something tells me that Dawson has his heart set on the easier fight with Tarver.

Nice post, Soundtraveler. Johnson won the fight as far as I'm concerned. Took the words out of my mouth. I remember telling everyone Johnson was blocking a lot of shots. You are so right in your post Soundtraveler....

Oh, make no mistake about it, Glenn Johnson is a BEAST - and he doesn't cut easily, but I have seen his eyes get swollen in fights where his opponant actually connected clean, effective punches, after all, Light Heavys do have some good pop as a rule. In this fight however, Johnson used his considerable skill in picking off Dawsons' punches. BTW, Glenn Johnson is a MASTER at picking off shots, he even blocks body shots with his elbows - he is quite the slick brawler, maybe one of the best ever for the division as far as being a "brawler" and yet being "sneaky slick" - we like "sneaky slick brawlers":fing02:

I didn't see him connecting much. I saw Johnson picking stuff off with his gloves and forearms. He wasn't connecting much, but he was connecting. Watch only the 7th round for that right hook if you need evidence of contact. It would have flattened any other man. It was a monster shot. Glen walked through it though. He's unreal.

I didn't see him connecting much. I saw Johnson picking stuff off with his gloves and forearms. I don't know why you always start shit with me on this forum, when me and you think alike.

Good post, ST, good to see you, my man. :beerchug: On TV it honestly looked like Dawson was connecting a fair amount but Johnson did look pretty damn clean. :lol1: I didn't see him connecting much. I saw Johnson picking stuff off with his gloves and forearms.

Dawson isn't quite feather fisted. He's got good power actually. In fact he caught Johnson with a right hook in the 7th that turned Glen completely sideways for a second, and slowed him down for the rest of the fight. Particularly the entire next round or two.. I think Glen is playing up that fact that his peanut is hard to damage. Laughin...No doubt.

I'm guessing you're just a hardcore nutt-hugger, Johnson had the better offense and defense through out the 12 rounds. Thank god you're not judging matches.

Johnson won the fight period, thats all that ever has to be said.

I'm guessing you had money on Johnson... Graham Houston scored it 115-113 Dawson. Dawson was hurt several times and didn't finish strongly, but he won more rounds than Johnson. Unfortunate, but he lost in a close fight, that might of looked like he should of won because of his strong finish and rocking dawson a couple times. It's more likely Dawson is feather fisted than Johnson wasn't getting hit. Dawson isn't quite feather fisted. He's got good power actually. In fact he caught Johnson with a right hook in the 7th that turned Glen completely sideways for a second, and slowed him down for the rest of the fight. Particularly the entire next round or two.. I think Glen is playing up that fact that his peanut is hard to damage.

Nice post, Soundtraveler. Johnson won the fight as far as I'm concerned.