Danny Williams says David haye will punch harder than wlad klitschko

Thats all conjecture until we see how he grows into the heavyweight frame though.

He's not packing on too much at 199. He blatantly boils down to that weight. I'd wager that his ideal walking around weight is probably around 220lbs and his ideal fighting weight is about 5lbs lighter than that as he always seems in fairly good fighting condition (part and parcel of being a pin-up poster-boy). So he probably will be packing on a bit too much in order to move properly up to heavyweight and it likely wont improve his chin TOO much, but it should help his legs out a bit and it was his legs that went when he fought Thompson and almost went against Mormeck. He's got too much in his pectorals and biceps. That's where his weight is. Compare his body to Wlad's. Wlad is just as ripped without the bulk. If he bulked as much as Haye does already at CW, he'd fight at 265 instead of 238 Look at Haye's frame, it's thin as a rail. It's like you read the news clips without looking at the pictures. When you say "his ideal walking around weight," you're not factoring the needless muscle he's already got on.

He's not packing on too much at 199. He blatantly boils down to that weight. I'd wager that his ideal walking around weight is probably around 220lbs and his ideal fighting weight is about 5lbs lighter than that as he always seems in fairly good fighting condition (part and parcel of being a pin-up poster-boy). So he probably will be packing on a bit too much in order to move properly up to heavyweight and it likely wont improve his chin TOO much, but it should help his legs out a bit and it was his legs that went when he fought Thompson and almost went against Mormeck.

Haye's troubles have stemmed from getting clipped on the top of the head (Mock, Mormeck). Does that count as having a bad 'chin'?

I just read an interview with Cro-Crop where he admitted that he'd beefed up for his latest victory to give himself more punch resistance. I tend to believe him when he says its what happens. In the case with Haye, I think that its more a matter of not draining himself (which definitely DOES effect your punch resistance). I doubt that he'll ever have a granite chin, but at heavyweight you can quite often go without taking huge clean punches all the time, cos most of those guys are afraid to punch anyway. Mik, Haye's punch resistance does not stand to improve much. He WAS ALREADY PACKING ON TOO MUCH WEIGHT at 199. Why do some people miss the obvious?

Danny Williams is a third-class boxer trying to hype his countryman. Do any more Limeys want to use what he says as if it were meaningful? Go cosmopolitan, gentlemen. Lately all te English posters are deluded patriots.

I agree with all that. Haye is going to need a good chin to be successful at HW. I don't think putting on muscle strengthens your chin any. I just read an interview with Cro-Crop where he admitted that he'd beefed up for his latest victory to give himself more punch resistance. I tend to believe him when he says its what happens. In the case with Haye, I think that its more a matter of not draining himself (which definitely DOES effect your punch resistance). I doubt that he'll ever have a granite chin, but at heavyweight you can quite often go without taking huge clean punches all the time, cos most of those guys are afraid to punch anyway.

I think Haye should weigh 225 as a heavyweight but not more. i think Wlad Owns should stop being a shameless nuthugger and get a life!

What the hell makes you say Bonin has a good chin??....Bonin is a tomato can bum that got KO'd by Fraudley and knocked down by other fellow tomato cans. Beating a nobody bum like Bonin proves jack shit. Audley would beat any heavyweight on his good day

I think Haye should weigh 225 as a heavyweight but not more.

What the hell happened to Ray Austin??.....He got humuliated and KO'd by Wlad in 2 rounds and than he just disappeared, he hasn't fought since..... Anyway, Austin would most likely KO that bum Bonin. there is a trainer at the gym i used to go to who acts like a big bad ass comes in dropping hooks on the heavybag... i looked him up on boxrec awhile back.. he got stopped by ray austin in 1 round

lmao. youve got to be joking I hope. the only guy with even half a pulse that bonin fought was fraudley harrison and he got beat! the only recent opponent of wlad that would even have a chance of losing to bonin is austin,,,and even austin would likely beat bonin. bonin is a club fighter with a ridiculous high ranking from one corrupt organization that had peter mcneely of all people in the top 10 at one time What the hell happened to Ray Austin??.....He got humuliated and KO'd by Wlad in 2 rounds and than he just disappeared, he hasn't fought since..... Anyway, Austin would most likely KO that bum Bonin.

Bonin's better than 80% of Klitschko's past opposition. lmao. youve got to be joking I hope. the only guy with even half a pulse that bonin fought was fraudley harrison and he got beat! the only recent opponent of wlad that would even have a chance of losing to bonin is austin,,,and even austin would likely beat bonin. bonin is a club fighter with a ridiculous high ranking from one corrupt organization that had peter mcneely of all people in the top 10 at one time

wow, it seems everyone is a David Haye expert all of a sudden. and when I was boosting him not even 2 months ago, everyone was saying how garbage he is and he won't be as good as a heavyweight when I kept insisting that he is a natural heavy and moves like nobody else at that weight. I guess everyone has now caught up with me. Everyone should feel free to ask me about any up n' comers and I will be happy to oblige with some info. Ha, "not even 2 months ago" Haye was already a two belt champ and ranked #1 by every credible source. Hardly an up and comer.

Bonin's better than 80% of Klitschko's past opposition. Go to boxrec buddy, if you look up tomato can in the dictionary Bonin's picture would be right next to it. Bonin's biggest victory was a close decision over some guy named Fernely Feliz who's record was 21-5. In his fight before the Haye bout Bonin took on a guy making his pro debut named Pavel Silvin and he was knocked down and almost KO'd in the 1st round, LOL. Even the joke Tye Fields has a much better resume than this tomato can bum Bonin....That's how bad the guy really is. Do some research before you make retarded posts.:nonono:

danny who? has someone actually asked his opinion about anything?

What the hell makes you say Bonin has a good chin??....Bonin is a tomato can bum that got KO'd by Fraudley and knocked down by other fellow tomato cans. Beating a nobody bum like Bonin proves jack shit. Bonin's better than 80% of Klitschko's past opposition.

For all we know haye could have tyson like power . Did you see what he did to tomaz bonin with one punch and just to listen to the sound of his punches . you know he hits like a truck. Bonin has a very good chin What the hell makes you say Bonin has a good chin??....Bonin is a tomato can bum that got KO'd by Fraudley and knocked down by other fellow tomato cans. Beating a nobody bum like Bonin proves jack shit.

For all we know haye could have tyson like power . Did you see what he did to tomaz bonin with one punch and just to listen to the sound of his punches . you know he hits like a truck. Bonin has a very good chin

Definately not. I think his stamina will get to him when he puts on 30 pounds. It will also slow him down significantly