ATG status considering Wladimir?

Is he there yet through unifying and disposing of more then 10+ top 10 heavyweight contenders, as well as being the most dominant champ of the latter part of the 21st century. OR Does he still have to unify all the belts. Who decides, and where is the line drawn. I'm sorry.. Is the question "Is Wladimir Klitchsko an ATG?" :?!:

I don't like rating active fighters all time, but seeing as you asked the question, how do you think Klitschko would do against these guys: Muhammad Ali Rocky Marciano Mike Tyson Joe Frazier Joe Louis Lennox Lewis George Foreman Sonny Liston Floyd Patterson I'd even pick Jack Dempsey to hammer Klitschko despite the disparity in height and weight.

Compare Wlad Record to any GREAT HW of All time Before anybody ask this Question again..

If Wlad can do this in the rest of his carreer I say he is top 15 of all time. Beat (in this orderish): Tony Thompson Alexander Povetkin Ruslan Chagaev or Nikolai Valuev (1) Samuel Peter David Haye John Ruiz or Andrew Golota or Hasim Rahman (2) Alexander Demitrienko 1= Rematch winner 2= HoFer (yes old though) In short, the competition isn't around to make Wladimir an all time great. The skill is, for sure, he has tremendous skill, not the opponents though. If he beats those guys he has cleaned out though.

He needs all the belts and he needs to start to wiping out all the competition in more impressive fashion. He is in a very weak era, he should be DESTROYING everyone, but isnt..... jeez dude. have high expectations much? no great heavyweight has destroyed all opposition even in the weakest of eras which this is not. there's always certain boxers that are extremely difficult to look good against

nah, not yet he is not. the next few yrs are crucial!

Some will never look at him too highly due to us being in a weak heavyweight era. If(more like when) he unifies then we could discuss it.

You said, "The most dominant champ of the latter part of the 21st century?" lol, i think its the beginning of the 21st centuary actually lol. No, our memories arent that short to forget his awful display against Ibragamov, and he really hasnt faced anyone of any quality. Ha didn't even realize it, I meant the latter of the first 10 years of the 21st century.

He has to do more to be considered an ATG, he is a very good heavyweight but no where near ATG status yet, he got knocked out 3 times and only avenged 1 of the losses.

By the end of 2009 he should be undisputed champ before we really even start considering him an ATG, I don't think he will ever make the ATG status, he may be the best HW in a weak era but alot of people are gonna look at who he lost to which was brutally knocked out except for the Chris Byrd fight which he quit, and that is gonna take a big toll.

Wlad need to fight a bit more often, three times a year, and take out these good fighters by the end of 2009: Thompson Povetkin Chagaev Peter Valuev Then he is clearly an ATG. Anybody who thinks those I've named above are not worthy opponents is not being honest. Valuev? VALUEV?? :haha::haha::haha::haha:

"For his height and reach advantage, he should be kicking but if he was a great fighter. Take away his height and reach advantage, and he would be even with all the other fighters around today." :nonono: Are we going to have to bust out the video of him knocking out McCline, Jefferson, and Austin again?

In my opinion an ATG becomes one by beating other ATG's not just top 10 fighters. The strength of the division and quality of opponents also come in to play.

He'll have to retire before we can really place his career in the proper context. He needs to be more active, but his record's looking pretty good so far.

Is he there yet through unifying and disposing of more then 10+ top 10 heavyweight contenders, as well as being the most dominant champ of the latter part of the 21st century. OR Does he still have to unify all the belts. Who decides, and where is the line drawn. You said, "The most dominant champ of the latter part of the 21st century?" lol, i think its the beginning of the 21st centuary actually lol. No, our memories arent that short to forget his awful display against Ibragamov, and he really hasnt faced anyone of any quality.

All im saying is.. FUCK ALI! JOE LOUIS ATG!

I know people just love to play into the stats, but I think when considering ATG's you need to throw the stats out the window. Or at least don't put so much emphasis on them. It's hard to imagine he could even be considered an ATG with how lame he's looked against the weak opposition of his era. Yes he's had some knockouts, but he's also been knocked out by the same opposition. Anyone can get knocked out if you beat on them enough, but Wlad was KO'd two times early without being worn down by his opponent first. He's a good fighter and everything, I don't even hold his last performance against him because he dominated, and every great heavyweight has had boring fights. But when it comes down to it, his career has been very rocky, and he hasn't looked as good as he should against this type of opposition. For his height and reach advantage, he should be kicking but if he was a great fighter. Take away his height and reach advantage, and he would be even with all the other fighters around today. His chin is also a big strike against him.

This is not accurate.^^ In such a competitive sport as boxing, there will never be an individual who destroys all the top fighters over an extended period. If there is a person who destroys everyone he faces, he faces lesser opponents. All ATG fighters have struggled with many quality fighters, even lost some. Klitschko should first and foremost be more active. Fight 3-4 fights a year. Preferably 2-3 of them against the top ranked guys, and one "off-fight" a year. He would need to establish himself as a confident, dominant champion who seeks out the toughest opposition. Wlad is fighting a uphill struggle to be considered an ATG. He needs to start doing SOMETHING.

He needs all the belts and he needs to start to wiping out all the competition in more impressive fashion. He is in a very weak era, he should be DESTROYING everyone, but isnt..... I beg to disagree, he has steamed rolled through nothing but top 10 contenders in the last 3 years. He fights the top opposition consistently and wins. I am sure he still hasn't achieved ATG status, but how many more defenses will it take? Or is the honor granted upon a boxer as soon as he unifies.

Wlad rules!!!!!!