The hypocrisy of Michael Katsidis...

The belt wasn't unjustly stripped. For once the wbc inforced its own rules and told Casamayor to fight the 1 ranked fighter at the time, David Diaz. Casamayor refused, there for they moved the interim champion to wbc champion. Blame Casamayor. edit: D.Diaz ko'd Santa Cruz to fight for the wbc title. A fighter Casamayor lost too. Casamayor wanted a rematch with Frietas at the time and was much more interesting at the time. The WBC was all bitchy and wanted him to fight Diaz. And Diaz ko'd Santa Cruz when Santa cruz got caught. Cruz was winning up until then. So you are saying that Ring Magazine recognizes a non linear champion who just happens to be a part owner of the company that owns Ring Magazine. Gee, nothing suspicious looking about that... Yeah especially when Hopkins won that belt in 2006...And the merger happened in like september or whenever it was, but I know it was after Bernard beat winky. And like Hyperion said, it was roy's belt. I'm not sure how he won it, but I'm pretty sure it was vacant until Roy (#1) and Tarver (#2) faced off in 2004 and Roy won it. Or The Ring had someone else #2 and DM #3 and Roy beat the #2 guy.

No matter how bad Casa looks. he's still the linear champ at lightweight. and katsidis might want that recognizition.

not really, ring broke the lineage when they gave roy jones their title...even though dariusz michelzsewsky was the linear champ...they may have been right to apply it, as dariusz didnt show any interest on fighting roy...but they never do that shit so why do it then??? If we're being truthful then we have to admit that Roy didn't show any more interest than Michalcewzski in getting that fight made.

So you are saying that Ring Magazine recognizes a non linear champion who just happens to be a part owner of the company that owns Ring Magazine. Gee, nothing suspicious looking about that...:ugh: not really, ring broke the lineage when they gave roy jones their title...even though dariusz michelzsewsky was the linear champ...they may have been right to apply it, as dariusz didnt show any interest on fighting roy...but they never do that shit so why do it then???

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=142035&highlight=Katsidis+ring+magazine+belt What a joke. He says it's not a title, but now....he's fighting for it! Sure they have those shitty interim titles on the line, but everyone knows that those don't mean shit compared to the ring (or in Katsidis's case, Juan Diaz's WBO belt. I won't say David Diaz's WBC belt because it was unjustly stripped from Casamayor. I think the belt went to Santa Cruz anyway...) The belt wasn't unjustly stripped. For once the wbc inforced its own rules and told Casamayor to fight the 1 ranked fighter at the time, David Diaz. Casamayor refused, there for they moved the interim champion to wbc champion. Blame Casamayor. edit: D.Diaz ko'd Santa Cruz to fight for the wbc title. A fighter Casamayor lost too.

Not really, thats the only ring title that is not linear.....the linear champ is zolst erdei... hatton's is the only one that matters.....but he is garbage anyway... So you are saying that Ring Magazine recognizes a non linear champion who just happens to be a part owner of the company that owns Ring Magazine. Gee, nothing suspicious looking about that...:ugh:

Casamayor holds the WBC interim title. If Santa Cruz had been given that decision, he would be the WBC champion and that would be who Katsidis would want to fight. All boxers really care about is how much money they are making. The only fighters that care about the Ring belt are the ones who have it. The Ring belt is just a prop given by a magazine that is owned by a boxing promoter and hyped up by guys like Brian Kenney. The only Ring belt that means anything would be the one Hopkins has. Not really, thats the only ring title that is not linear.....the linear champ is zolst erdei... hatton's is the only one that matters.....but he is garbage anyway...

Biggest? Why do you think that would be? Because Casamayor has the ring title. If Casamayor didn't have that title and Santa Cruz did, I'm sure that Katsidis would be fighting Cruz on the 22nd. Not Casamayor. Casamayor holds the WBC interim title. If Santa Cruz had been given that decision, he would be the WBC champion and that would be who Katsidis would want to fight. All boxers really care about is how much money they are making. The only fighters that care about the Ring belt are the ones who have it. The Ring belt is just a prop given by a magazine that is owned by a boxing promoter and hyped up by guys like Brian Kenney. The only Ring belt that means anything would be the one Hopkins has.

Not very much. I doubt they are getting more then a million, if that.

I think $$$ might also come into this. Katsidis/Casamayor would most like generate much more coin than Katsidis/Santa Cruz and these guys are trying to make a living. anyone know what GBP is paying these two?

Exactly. The fight with Juan Diaz fell through so Katsidis took the next biggest fight he could. There is nothing hypocritical. It's strictly good business. Biggest? Why do you think that would be? Because Casamayor has the ring title. If Casamayor didn't have that title and Santa Cruz did, I'm sure that Katsidis would be fighting Cruz on the 22nd. Not Casamayor.

Well B is probably the most logical answer. I can't see him changing his view in just like 4 months.

Katsidis is gonna take the biggest fight available to him, and the fight his camp tells him to take. If that happens to conflict on some level with one of a million statements he's made in his career as a professional boxer, it will not affect his decision making in the slightest. This is a ridiculous thread.. still better than the Mayweather/wwe threads though! Exactly. The fight with Juan Diaz fell through so Katsidis took the next biggest fight he could. There is nothing hypocritical. It's strictly good business.

As I've said, it's either: A) He changed his opinion about the Ring Magazine Or B) He thinks he can take Casamayor because of Casa's last performance C) Fuck all that, he is a hypocrite. Vlad is stuck on A & B

Personally I feel Katsidis was planning on ducking Casamayor until he saw the Santa Cruz bout and figured it would be a winnable fight. I could just tell from his interviews it was a fight he didn't want to take.

Katsidis is gonna take the biggest fight available to him, and the fight his camp tells him to take. If that happens to conflict on some level with one of a million statements he's made in his career as a professional boxer, it will not affect his decision making in the slightest. This is a ridiculous thread.. still better than the Mayweather/wwe threads though!

lo, tis thread backfired in ur ass.... how is katsidis gonna be proud of fightig paper champ casamayor??... I thought you had me on ignore? And paper champ? Casamayor beat Corrales, who he won the title from. He sure as hell got a gift in his last fight, but that doesn't make him a paper champion.

NO I'M PISSED!!! GARRRRRRRRRRRRR!!111 How is he being a hypocrite if he is fighting Casamayor now? "No one wants to see this fight." Then he goes and fights him. Especially after he should have lost. And that was a pretty arogant statement which I'm pretty sure he woudln't go "Oh hey I was wrong" Especially in like 4 months. I have no problem with him fighting Casamayor, but the fact that he said that "It's just a magazine" and now he's fighting for that title makes him one. Or if anything, it's ironic.

Then why not fight Jose Santa Cruz? He clearly beat Casamayor, he could have fought him. Why? Because Casamayor has a title...the ring title...the same one he said was "just a magazine" Calm down dude. How is he being a hypocrite if he is fighting Casamayor now? Did it ever cross your mind that maybe he changed his mind about the whole thing? That maybe he reads what people say on the internet about his comment regarding "The Ring Magazine" and decided to make up for it by fighting Casamayor. Secondly, he could also have chosen Casamayor because he thinks that Casamayor is shot after seeing his last performance and he thinks he can take him.

lo, tis thread backfired in ur ass.... how is katsidis gonna be proud of fighting paper champ casamayor??...his title means nothing..only juan diaz' belts mean something...