I dont understand why Kimbo would give up a lot of his natural advantages to go in a boxing ring.
I dont think he is the type of guy who can box 12 rounds in a strategic kind of fight.
Every boxer has fights where he needs to grind out a points victory, i just can`t see kimbo having the necessary skills or patience to do this,
he should stay in MMA, he is far better suited to it...
lol what you say is absolutely corect, however money talks and if he gets offered a fat pay cheque to box he'll take it straight away. he's more of an exhibition fighter in my opinion
I dont understand why Kimbo would give up a lot of his natural advantages to go in a boxing ring.
I dont think he is the type of guy who can box 12 rounds in a strategic kind of fight.
Every boxer has fights where he needs to grind out a points victory, i just can`t see kimbo having the necessary skills or patience to do this,
he should stay in MMA, he is far better suited to it...
lol kimbos boxing style isnt actual too bad, he has power, a lot of lateral movement, decent defence and considering the state of the heavyweight division at the minute he would have a punchers chance against anyone. im not saying he would become champ in fact i think that is laughable, but he would create a bit of a buzz in he heavyweight division and might even beat one or two top contenders on sheer size and stength alone.
i think there are massive question marks surrounding his footwork, discipline and fitness though.
Decent contender??? Maybe
Heavyweight Champion? fucking doubt it!
what do you lot think?
I have a great idea, why would not Kimbo fight Haye.
If Haye beats kimbo then he gets the recognition in the US, if kimbo beats haye then he can have bragging rights to fight a champ
are you serious? you think kimbos first aponant below 50 should be david haye an in prime world champion lol haye would fuck Kimbo up Quick 1st round K.O.
and i dont think it would give haye that much recognition beating up an old streetfighter with little boxing skill
maybe Haye should go onto WWE and fight sum sweaty bloke with spandex on that seems to get a lot of recognition nower days
Tank has been washed up for ten years. Why would Kimbo fight a guy that's one-dimensional (Tank) and has one victory in this decade?
I guess they wanted Kimbo's resume to have Tank Abbott on it, he's still a pretty big name in MMA.
Not with the technique he showed against Tank.
Tank has been washed up for ten years. Why would Kimbo fight a guy that's one-dimensional (Tank) and has one victory in this decade?
There must be millions of people in the world with the talent necessary to be a good boxer, I dont think Kimbo is unnaturally talented. He's pretty good but most amatuer boxers are pretty good.
He could jump to the front of the queue and get a shot but i think if you put him in the ring with 10 ounce gloves on he would get beaten up pretty quick.
Most people can produce knockouts with 4oz gloves or fists, 10oz gloves requires timing, speed and accurace, something i dont think Kimbo has enough of.
remember what happened to mighty mo and ray sefo? both k-1 stars famous for their punching (at least when compared to the guys from their talent pool), and they couldn't get past c-d level boxers (mighty mo getting his jaw destroyed by some 40 year old who just boxed on the side). and i believe that sefo and mighty mo both punch MUCH harder and much better than kimbo can or ever will...but even they got embarassed.
you give kimbo a set of boxing gloves and place him under unified rules and he won't be able to accomplish jack shit. he would be a poor version of vinnie madalone with even less skill. the level of competition he's faced, and the utilization of 4 oz gloves just gives the illusion that this guy is a wrecking machine in terms of punching power. there's a reason his game plan was to take an old ray mercer to the ground (despite swearing he was gonna stand and slug it out), cus even his handlers knew it would have been a horrible idea to go toe-to-toe for too long.
in boxing, it takes a WHOLE LOT to be labeled as a hard puncher, so the ones worthy of being described as "heavy handed" or being "knockout artists" truly deserve it. flip the switch, and any wrestler with a total of 2 months of boxing training who just happens to toss a wild haymaker and land flush on an opponent of equal or even less boxing experience is easily labeled by naive, overacting commentators as a "devastating puncher". it's pretty hilarious to be honest with you. it's not a knock on them, it's just that when compared to boxing a guy can get by on a whole lot less punching power in mma to score some KO's, and practically anyone can pull it off...it's just the nature of that particular sport. in boxing, the guys who you see with loads of consecutive KO's are truly something special. a guy like chris byrd could probably put plenty of guys to sleep if you give him 4oz gloves due to the sharpness of his punches.
probably the most important reason why kimbo would fail miserably would be this....throughout the history of the sport, even the hardest punchers along the lines of shavers, foreman, liston, tyson, etc., have all had to go the distance sooner or later. they've all had to encounter opponents who could take their best shots, and give back in return. could kimbo do this? given the guys he was floored by in his internet fights, and the fact that he was whooped on his feet by a cop/part-time boxer in sean gannon leads me to believe that kimbo can only dish it out, but probably can't take it. and even if he could, there's no way that guy is gonna do it for more than a few rounds.
he is far more suited for mma, as his short, bursts of violence are more suited to the rule set, and it's much easier to finish a fight within a minute or two in mma than it is in boxing. there are plenty of club fighters who are of kimbo's cloth - wild swinging brawlers who look like body builders thal burn out and fold if they can't finish it early - he isn't unique at all. boxing has far too deep of a talent pool, and he isn't gonna be getting any freebies on his way up. unlike in mma (cough...PRIDE..cough), you don't get an instant shot at a champ just because you have an internet following.
excellent post bud, that sums everything up right there.
2501, that signiture of yours is hilarious, haha
Funny stuff. How many years would it take for this clown to get a shot at a world title. He's 34 now, what would he be, like 40? Or does he think beating up a few street thugs and a couple of washed up never has beens with losing records in MMA qualifies him? G T F O H.
whats funny/sad is how quickly he could get a title shot against one of the champs
remember what happened to mighty mo and ray sefo? both k-1 stars famous for their punching (at least when compared to the guys from their talent pool), and they couldn't get past c-d level boxers (mighty mo getting his jaw destroyed by some 40 year old who just boxed on the side). and i believe that sefo and mighty mo both punch MUCH harder and much better than kimbo can or ever will...but even they got embarassed.
you give kimbo a set of boxing gloves and place him under unified rules and he won't be able to accomplish jack shit. he would be a poor version of vinnie madalone with even less skill. the level of competition he's faced, and the utilization of 4 oz gloves just gives the illusion that this guy is a wrecking machine in terms of punching power. there's a reason his game plan was to take an old ray mercer to the ground (despite swearing he was gonna stand and slug it out), cus even his handlers knew it would have been a horrible idea to go toe-to-toe for too long.
in boxing, it takes a WHOLE LOT to be labeled as a hard puncher, so the ones worthy of being described as "heavy handed" or being "knockout artists" truly deserve it. flip the switch, and any wrestler with a total of 2 months of boxing training who just happens to toss a wild haymaker and land flush on an opponent of equal or even less boxing experience is easily labeled by naive, overacting commentators as a "devastating puncher". it's pretty hilarious to be honest with you. it's not a knock on them, it's just that when compared to boxing a guy can get by on a whole lot less punching power in mma to score some KO's, and practically anyone can pull it off...it's just the nature of that particular sport. in boxing, the guys who you see with loads of consecutive KO's are truly something special. a guy like chris byrd could probably put plenty of guys to sleep if you give him 4oz gloves due to the sharpness of his punches.
probably the most important reason why kimbo would fail miserably would be this....throughout the history of the sport, even the hardest punchers along the lines of shavers, foreman, liston, tyson, etc., have all had to go the distance sooner or later. they've all had to encounter opponents who could take their best shots, and give back in return. could kimbo do this? given the guys he was floored by in his internet fights, and the fact that he was whooped on his feet by a cop/part-time boxer in sean gannon leads me to believe that kimbo can only dish it out, but probably can't take it. and even if he could, there's no way that guy is gonna do it for more than a few rounds.
he is far more suited for mma, as his short, bursts of violence are more suited to the rule set, and it's much easier to finish a fight within a minute or two in mma than it is in boxing. there are plenty of club fighters who are of kimbo's cloth - wild swinging brawlers who look like body builders thal burn out and fold if they can't finish it early - he isn't unique at all. boxing has far too deep of a talent pool, and he isn't gonna be getting any freebies on his way up. unlike in mma (cough...PRIDE..cough), you don't get an instant shot at a champ just because you have an internet following.
I do think kimbo is a natural boxer with a heavy punch and smart striking abilities but I don't think he is good enough to go toe-to-toe with a top 10 heavyweight boxer today. He is far too old to learn the game. But it is kinda sad cuz if he had learned how to box at an earlier age he definitley would be heavyweight champ IMO.
Yup, definitely.:pat:
Nah, his best bet is to stay in MMA.
He'll be an exciting MMA fighter to watch as long as he stays away from Fedor.
I could picture him getting a title shot pretty quickly in a HW match actually.
If you mean by around 20 fights against he usual 30 or so fights then yes. Boxing isnt going to bend too far for "kimbo".
I do think kimbo is a natural boxer with a heavy punch and smart striking abilities but I don't think he is good enough to go toe-to-toe with a top 10 heavyweight boxer today. He is far too old to learn the game. But it is kinda sad cuz if he had learned how to box at an earlier age he definitley would be heavyweight champ IMO.
I think he's a tough, hard nosed, heavy handed bare knuckle fighter who has worked hard on his stand up fighting..........and that's showed.
But he clearly has no boxing ability. He's immobile, and his coordination is suspect. He does have the hard straight punch.
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That's really fucking pushing it, lol.
Because he's still amateurish as hell when it comes to punching and he's yet to show any type of boxing ability outside of occasional head feints.
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