Dam i just re-watched hamed v kelley

yeah. whoever gets hit 1sts BIG gets down and get kayoed sooner or later. You think Naz will land 1st i think pac will land 1st. fair enough. but in addition Morales, Barrera and Marquez outboxes naz by popular opinion while Pac already destroyed EM and MAB ( Both were 29 @ the time of the 1st stoppage) in reality...no more not in prime arguments pls. we'll see if pac can complete it this March againts JMM. i think you forget that morales and barera have been fighting since the age of 16 professionally. they had been in a number of wars and were damaged goods. however thats a side argument for another thread

you could suggest naz is the ultimate finisher.... once he hit you there was rarely a way back into the fight both guys are unorthodox but if pac came into trying to trade then theres only one winner imo, pacs going to sleep. Thats why a fight with morales would of been so exciting as well yeah. whoever gets hit 1sts BIG gets down and get kayoed sooner or later. You think Naz will land 1st i think pac will land 1st. fair enough. but in addition Morales, Barrera and Marquez outboxes naz by popular opinion while Pac already destroyed EM and MAB ( Both were 29 @ the time of the 1st stoppage) in reality...no more not in prime arguments pls. we'll see if pac can complete it this March againts JMM.

out the 4 i think PAC is naz's best bet. BUT i think PAC still knocks him out. Whoever lands the money punch wins it. NAz wont survive if he got KD like kelly did to him. PAC is the ultimate finisher. you could suggest naz is the ultimate finisher.... once he hit you there was rarely a way back into the fight both guys are unorthodox but if pac came into trying to trade then theres only one winner imo, pacs going to sleep. Thats why a fight with morales would of been so exciting as well

another thing as well.... i'd pick prime naz to knock pac out in convincing fashion. morales, barera and marquez would all have a great chance of outboxing naz but he always had that equaliser out the 4 i think PAC is naz's best bet. BUT i think PAC still knocks him out. Whoever lands the money punch wins it. NAz wont survive if he got KD like kelly did to him. PAC is the ultimate finisher.

another thing as well.... i'd pick prime naz to knock pac out in convincing fashion. morales, barera and marquez would all have a great chance of outboxing naz but he always had that equaliser Barrera had his card marked, he fought behind a high guard and had superior ring savvy, Hamed never had plan B! Morales would I feel would have tried to KO Naz (which he might have done) but this style would have gave Naz a chance that MAB never gave him. As you mentioned, Naz never really returned because his Ego wouldn't let him, very exciting fighter though. Arsehole as a bloke.

As a man I couldn't stand him but as a fighter he was as exciting a fighter as you could get. The first time I saw him I couldn't quite believe what I was seeing and expected him to be one of those flashy but powder puff punchers until he unleashed a leaping corkscrew uppercut which almost ripped his opponents head off. P4P easily one of the hardest hitters ever in the sport but he was easy to nail himself with his leaning back defense and chin held high, that's what made his fights exciting. His style, ring entrances and devastating KO's are definately missed in the sport today.

another thing as well.... i'd pick prime naz to knock pac out in convincing fashion. morales, barera and marquez would all have a great chance of outboxing naz but he always had that equaliser

once hamed lost his ego wouldn't allow him to come back.... his comeback fight after barera was a disaster and i dont think he could handle not being top dog. Agreed with you all regarding ingle. In the commentary during the kelley fight foreman said that you cant refine these kind of fighters otherwise you take away what makes them special.... suarez and steward did exactly that

Hamed is all right but Morales, Marquez and Barrera will own him over and over.

Lol.. He was a funny dude.

I'm sure his head got swelled up from fame, but the worst mistake Hamed made was hiring Steward and that awful Oscar Suarez. They tried to refine him and just ended up taking away what made him special. Agreed. He should have never gotten rid of Brendan Ingle, he was the only one who understood Hamed's style.

His arrogance made him a brilliant fighter but ultimately destroyed him. He thought he was better off with out Ingle, which was wrong and like most boxers he let the wrong people get too close to him. His behaviour over the car accident stuff was shocking as well. Still I can remember his fights and fuck could he throw some leather for a small guy. Ultimately, he failed the 'Mexican Test' and I've got a horrible feeling Amir may follow in his footsteps I'm sure his head got swelled up from fame, but the worst mistake Hamed made was hiring Steward and that awful Oscar Suarez. They tried to refine him and just ended up taking away what made him special.

naz this naz that u fg that kelly made it a good fight 2 ...plus hes from ...QUEENS Kelly was a good fighter, but certainly past his best by the time he fought Naz......and he was one of the classical cases where someone stays too long in boxing. He had gone over ten years before taking the huge steps up and he fought some serious names late in his career. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

Yeah, that was a very good fight, showed Naz' vulnerabilities though.

naz this naz that u fg that kelly made it a good fight 2 ...plus hes from ...QUEENS

when does he get out

His arrogance made him a brilliant fighter but ultimately destroyed him. He thought he was better off with out Ingle, which was wrong and like most boxers he let the wrong people get too close to him. His behaviour over the car accident stuff was shocking as well. Still I can remember his fights and fuck could he throw some leather for a small guy. Ultimately, he failed the 'Mexican Test' and I've got a horrible feeling Amir may follow in his footsteps

I used to really dislike Naz back in the day, but he was enertaining. Those ring entrances were crazy as was his style which made good enertainment.

By the time I was turned on to boxing, he was gone.