Top 5 Middleweights Ever

yo, are you serious, dude?? I mean I like Miranda, but really how many world Championships has he won, or defended? Pavlick just won his first Title.:haha: :haha:

1. Robinson 2. Jones 3. Ketchel 4. Greb 5. Monzon

Hagler Robinson Monzon Hopkins Greb

1.hagler 2.hopkins 3.pavlik 4.edison miranda 5.william joppy yo, are you serious, dude?? I mean I like Miranda, but really how many world Championships has he won, or defended? Pavlick just won his first Title.

all i know is that Monzon HAS to be there TraxNYC

1.hagler 2.hopkins 3.pavlik 4.edison miranda 5.william joppy :rofl: you forgot morade hakkar.

1.hagler 2.hopkins 3.pavlik 4.edison miranda 5.william joppy Ok putting pavlik on there is a joke to... but EDISON MIRANDA? :nonono:

1.hagler 2.hopkins 3.pavlik 4.edison miranda 5.william joppy No Sugar Ray?

Hagler Monzon Greb Robinson Hopkins

1.hagler 2.hopkins 3.pavlik 4.edison miranda 5.william joppy

Hagler Monzon Greb Robinson Ketchel

good to see alot of people with monzon on the list! fucking warrior! i don't like his ugly style (except for the benvenutti ko, that was beautifully brutal) and he was a despicable human being, but let's be real, he was a great, great fighter.

good to see alot of people with monzon on the list! fucking warrior!

In no order, Robinson Monzon Greb Ketchell Hagler Hopkins could easily fit on this list. Anyone that puts Pavlik (who hasn't even defended the title once) on this list is a joke. I agree, that is "THE" list right there!

Hagler, Robinson, Monzon and Nunn are the top four for me, that I've seen and know. I rate Toney over Hopkins. Not seen Greb, Ketchel or Tiger. Toney was too inconsistent at 160. He got a gift against Dave Tiberi, barely squeaked past Reggie Johnson, and arguably lost the Mike McCallum rematch. The win over Michael Nunn was excellent, and he should've won a close one over McCallum the first time around, but he was hardly one of the greats @ 160 and certainly below B-Hop at there. Toney was a little green @ 160 and still improving. He was better at 168 where he was much more dominant in his title fights before running into Roy Jones.

Not taking anything away from Monzon. I just thought Hagler and Sugar Ray had a better body of work. I mean Marvin Hagler had one of the best fights ever with Hearns. Monzon was good, only had 14 title defenses Hopkins had 20...do the math...no h8 Only 14? That's the 2nd most in middleweight history. And when he won the title, he took it from THE champ in Nino Benvenutti. Similar to Calzaghe, Hopkins won his title via vacancy and was one of a number of champs in the division until he unified.

Carlos Monzon had wins over Nino Benvenuti (82-4, 3-time world champion), Emile Griffith (70-11, 5-time world champion), Jose Napoles (75-5, 3-time world champion) and Rodrigo Valdez (57-4, 2-time world champion). Monzon fought anyone, anywhere, anytime. He always fought solid opposition and beat them in their own home countries. Also count in the fact that he was not beaten for 13 years, he only lost in his early 20's.

Hagler Monzon Robinson LaMotta Hopkins

1. Hagler 2.Monzon 3. Hopkins don't know many top fighters in the middleweight division over the years

It's pretty much accepted among fans that Monzon, Hagler, and Robinson are at the top. I rate Hopkins also because of the 20 defenses, even though some were against weak opponents. Ther's no way you could leave Monzon out of the picture with his 14 defenses, a record that stood up until Hopkins started on a roll with his win over Trinidad. Monzon was no prodigy skillwise but his style was effective and he holds wins over Emille Griffith and Nino Benvenutti, to name a few.