The Official Israel Vasquez vs. Rafael Marquez rubbermatch Thread

No way this goes to the cards. the possibilities of darko milicic winning an mvp are higher than if this fight goes to the cards,marquez in 8 by tko

I'd be happier if someone got stopped with one punch early in the fight and don't batter eahc other too much. It will likely end between rounds 4 and 9.

I will be shocked. I'd be happier if someone got stopped with one punch early in the fight and don't batter eahc other too much.

I am and israel fan, and yes he is a quitter, Marquez is not because marquez was willing to take pain and never quit in the second match. The ref had to step in and stop Marquez, thats how much heart Marquez has over Vasquez. Marquez is fucking crazy, he is willing to die in the ring. I don't think Vasquez is. No offence man, but you're a fucking dick! What is it going to take for some people to realise that quitting is not the end of the fucking world. This is a sport, it is not fighting for someones life!!! NO one is willing to die in the ring. If any boxer actually knew they would die from an injury, they would stop. If you think otherwise, you're a complete tool. If you can't breath you can't win a hard, grueling boxing match, heart or no heart! He has showed his heart by training his whole life, getting in the ring professionally, losing a fight, coming back and winning the fucking thing in a seriously brutal match. How can you possibly say he has no heart? Have you boxed professionally? Have you had your nose smashed into your face? Have you had to keep fighting when every punch that lands on it is pure agony? Have you only quit when you couldn't breath, because to keep going only meant flagging completely and getting KO'd for no reason? I'm sick of pathetic fucks like you that have no clue whatsoever these guys put into their fights and training! Do you have any idea how hard they train? No, of course you don't because you've probably never gotten off your fat, piece of shit ass to try. So, you keep sitting on your ass pretending you're hard by bagging out a pro boxer who has given his life to doing something you could only dream of having the heart to do. Next time you think he's a pussy for quitting, go get a hammer and smash your own nose with it, then go for a ten K run whilst every now and then smashing the hammer into your nose. If you make it to the end without passing out or giving up....I'll admit Vasquez has no heart.

if this fights goes the distance i will be the happiest person alive I will be shocked.

if this fights goes the distance i will be the happiest person alive

what a predicament. Here is ANOTHER Marquez who will have to some how isolate his opponent's powerful left. Like his brother, his best chance will be to utilize everything Beri has taught him and tactically box his way to a win, but of course, in exciting fashion. It doesnt get any better than this.

Israel Vasquez can beat marquez any time if Vasquez doesn't bitch out again and quit. He would have probably ko'd Marquez if he didn't quit in the first fight. It was funny, in the first fight Marquez said something after the fight like that he was hurt at times and was shocked when Israel quit. Israel swore he had hard time breathing, but if his nose breaks again (which is exactly what Marquez wants to do because he knows he can force israel to quit) then Israel will look like a bitch. I was glad when he won in the rematch, but he needs to have more heart. He has the tools to beat Marquez, his heart is always the question. I know he is concerned about his health, but most ppl don't die from a broken nose in the ring, does anyone even know if anyone ever died because of a broken nose in the ring? c'mon man, calling a true warrior like vasquez a quitter or bitch must be the stupidest thing you've ever said....or your new to the game... first of all, it wasnt a broken nose...it was a blood clot that accumulated over a period of fights....by the time izzy got tagged in the second round, the internal bleeding grew worse, making it damn near impossible to breathe.....the fact that he lasted more than two rounds past the 2nd is amazing, and proof as to how much a warrior he is... before the rematch took place, the clot was drained and izzy's nose was restored.. izzy's obviously favored to win the rubber match, and for good reason....the way i see it, vasquez's best chance is try to engage marquez in a brawl early on and end it within the 3rd or 4th round.... for marquez to win he must establish the double jab and clinch rather than engage when in trouble....if he allows izzy to reset after planting his feet, he'll set himself up for more short left hooks and straight rights.. should be another great fight..

close voting.

Im pulling for Marquez, but if I had to bet I would put money on Vasquez. He looked much stronger in both fights so far.

I hate to choose but I'll go with Marquez TKO in the 10th!

In both fights Marquez has been hit with quite a few good left hooks from Vasquez. He probably knows that a punch to stay away from. I think this time Marquez will stay away from the left hand enough and land some of his powerful right hands. I see the fight being stopped because of cuts or ref stoppage. Marquez KO9 Vasquez.

the 4th option is supposed to be "Marquez by decision". oops.

I think Vasquez should be the favorite but im gonna be rooting for Marquez!

The less entertaining the fight is, the better chance Marquez wins by ud. If Marquez wants to brawl with Vasquez, then he will lose. And Marquez has a warriors blood running through him just like Vasquez does, so Marquez will not fight with skill he will want to trade shots with Vasquez again :)... hehehe they will both probably try to box early, and less than half way through the fight it will be a slugfest until it ends.

Trust me... Marquez will win 116-112 or 117-111. He will be more careful this time, and he is the better boxer no doubt. If Vasquez wins this fight I will have even more respect for him than I currently do....both of these fighters are evenly matched in terms of vazques power and marquez skills No way this goes to the cards.

Israel Vasquez can beat marquez any time if Vasquez doesn't bitch out again and quit. He would have probably ko'd Marquez if he didn't quit in the first fight. It was funny, in the first fight Marquez said something after the fight like that he was hurt at times and was shocked when Israel quit. Israel swore he had hard time breathing, but if his nose breaks again (which is exactly what Marquez wants to do because he knows he can force israel to quit) then Israel will look like a bitch. I was glad when he won in the rematch, but he needs to have more heart. He has the tools to beat Marquez, his heart is always the question. I know he is concerned about his health, but most ppl don't die from a broken nose in the ring, does anyone even know if anyone ever died because of a broken nose in the ring? If you've follow Israel through out his career, you'd know Israel is faaaaaaar from a bitch. Breathing through your nose in boxing is almost as important as being able to see. If you're fighting with as much intensity as those 2 that night, not being able to breathe could had been fatal.

crazy how a win by decision isnt even part of the equation in this fight. especially when these dudes arent even pure brawlers but effective offensive and tactical machines/boxers. god bless these dudes.

a decision?!? no way i cant se a decision happening,but i got Marquez by tko, and you cant call israel a quitter thats not right,might as well call anyone whos got counted out on a knee a quitter as well,he knew he couldnt last simple as that

I've got Marquez. Anyone down for a bet?