chavez jr vs berto would be great.........

Which is showing improvement. Berto needs to work MORE head movement and MORE bodywork and MORE defensive tactics and he will be a force to be reckoned with. The Berto that beat Estrada would probably SD Chavez Jr. who is big as hell and has some pop on his punches. That Rivera fight he seemed a little off. Other fights before he had good head and feet movement, used his jab well, and went to the body more. Then against Rivera he was flat footed, no head movement, didn't use the jab and was basically just head-hunting. Which led to him getting KD and having a not so spectacular performance. Then the Estrada fight he went back to what he did in previous fights and looked a lot better and you were shown why he was ESPN's prospect of the year.

I agree against Cosme Rivera he faded in the last rounds, but against Estrada he turned it on and got the KO in the late rounds. Your right that Berto does stand in front sometimes too much and that was his problem against Rivera, which led to the KD. Against Estrada he moved more and basically pounded him. Which is showing improvement. Berto needs to work MORE head movement and MORE bodywork and MORE defensive tactics and he will be a force to be reckoned with. The Berto that beat Estrada would probably SD Chavez Jr. who is big as hell and has some pop on his punches.

they both get hit too easily at this stage in their careers, i think berto is more of a volume puncher than chavez jr, i have berto winning a close UD with several KD's from both sides.

Would be a great fight.Berto is the best prospect but i think JCC is one of them kids that will have them Mexican hearts and i can see him beating Berto in the future maybe 3 yrs.But right now JCC needs more fights he never had the ametur fights

don't worry gentlemen, jr's getting all his amateur career learning out of the way now, 08 is going to be huge for him. berto should steer clear of the kid. who is he gonna fight, i think it would for 2009, is too soon i think, these are young prospect and future stars why not match them up

Berto's chin has been checked and if JCC Jr is anything like his pops he gots a granite chin. Berto stands in front too much, and JCC Jr will break him with the patented Chavez left hook to the body. JCC has got good power and skills and Berto fades late and has been down already, so I think Chavez will break him. I agree against Cosme Rivera he faded in the last rounds, but against Estrada he turned it on and got the KO in the late rounds. Your right that Berto does stand in front sometimes too much and that was his problem against Rivera, which led to the KD. Against Estrada he moved more and basically pounded him.

Yeah that's what I was thinking as well. I know Berto is fighting at WW now, while JCC Jr. fights at Jr. Middle. I was watching JCC Jr in his last fight against Sanchez and he looked huge compared to him, like there a was two weight class difference. Little JCC is 6'0 and may still be growing.

I think he has already grown out of making welterweight and may even be a middleweight by next year. Yeah that's what I was thinking as well. I know Berto is fighting at WW now, while JCC Jr. fights at Jr. Middle.

don't worry gentlemen, jr's getting all his amateur career learning out of the way now, 08 is going to be huge for him. berto should steer clear of the kid. I think he has already grown out of making welterweight and may even be a middleweight by next year.

If Berto were to fight the way he did against Estrada which is use his jab and have more head and feet movement then I see him winning a UD. His hand speed and variety in offense would be the difference in the end.

don't worry gentlemen, jr's getting all his amateur career learning out of the way now, 08 is going to be huge for him. berto should steer clear of the kid.

idk what are chavez jr's plans he is gonna get to 100 wins by the time he is 30 damn, wtf

haven't seen enough of either to make a prediction

I don't think Jr is quite ready for Berto yet. Maybe if he'd fought some amatuer fights first.

berto goes head hunting, maybe scores a KD. i then see chavez laying down the hammer downstairs while keeping berto distracted by his pesky jab. i got jr. via UD.