Williams vs Mayweather

are you actually tryin to say paul is soft? ok homie, I hope you still have that opinion when he fights cotto or whoever. Sorry my man, but Williams average opponent has 14 wins 9 losses. That is being in soft. ok fine. But is PW soft? yes or no. dont give me reasons. is he soft? cuz if you say yes, you are a fucking idiot. sorry to be so blunt. call him w/e but dont call him soft. Soft competition fine w/e. You can break down everybodies record and knock the fighter down a few notches. fact is, he beat everyone he has faced thus far and he is not soft. :banghead:

this would be a fun fight to watch imo, with floyd decisioning paul or possibly stopping him. williams is taller has a longer reach and throws a lot of punches, way more than floyd, but you see that only works with fighters who aren't as polished. floyd is an A+ fighter with all of the intangibles to stop williams and throw him out of his game for sure. williams said himself that he would be crazy to try to outbox mayweather, which a fighter of his physical attributes would usually try to do against less par fighters. floyd again is the most methodical fighter of his generation, he could and most likely would take paul out of his game, because as far as smarts go, floyd is in league of his own. would paul give him competition? you damn right he would and on paper he would be his toughest foe, but mayweather knows better than most if not all fighters how to use his opponent's style against them added with his accuracy and fluent movement, he would give paul nightmares in the ring. size in a mayweather fight don't mean shit, because he's too tactical a fighter to let paul reign supreme over him. paul imo is a very good fighter, but against floyd, who i feel would be very aggressive against him, paul would fall short. paul throws many punches per round but against floyd how many would actually land? not too many unless he confuses the shit out of floyd which he could do imo if his stamina holds up, because it would really have to. floyd is a fighter who really doesn't tire out and gets stronger as the fight goes into the later rounds becasue his timing is impecable and his patience in the ring is amazing. paul would have to try to take the early rounds while keeping floyd confused throughout the whole fight, because paul throwing many punches at floyd won't get the job done. his timing would have to be damn near perfect because floyd knows how to time fighters well. add to this, paul leaves his body open a lot and floyd loves to break his opponent's body down with a jab or straight right hand to the body, and floyd fights very effectively in the pocket. paul is fast and fights good when fainting but floyd is too accurate and adjust too well to styles as the later rounds come, especially if he gets in many body punches in the early rounds. paul's body was open a lot during his fight with tony, so just imagine what floyd would do to it, he's a much smarter skillerfull and accurate fighter then margarito, floyd sees everything, he's that observant. paul would have to be accurate with his jab and not just throw it out there like he has done a lot in the past. throwing punches just to stay active is a huge mistake when fighting floyd, especially seeing how the judges in his fights score them. floyd can throw less than half of the punches of williams but due to his punches landing accurately, he will get the decision everytime. paul has a decent defense but he isn't a accurate counterpuncher like floyd is. paul is a good counterpuncher, don't get it twisted, just not a prolifent with it like floyd is. this would be a good fight imo, but i just don't see how paul would beat floyd, i don't see it at all happening. floyd just knows how win and adjust very well. paul throws a lot of his punches in a slapping motion which is smart because he is much faster when he slaps his punches and could throw floyd off this way, but floyd knows how to adjust to everything. floyd ud or late tko over paul.

ok fine. But is PW soft? yes or no. dont give me reasons. is he soft? cuz if you say yes, you are a fucking idiot. sorry to be so blunt. call him w/e but dont call him soft. Soft competition fine w/e. You can break down everybodies record and knock the fighter down a few notches. fact is, he beat everyone he has faced thus far and he is not soft. Not sure what your unnatural allegiance to Williams is. No one called him soft except you, I said he has been IN soft because data is unbiased. To put it in perspective Floyds average opponent has 26 wins 5 losses and Cotto average opponent has 24 wins 5 losses.

yuh its about styles and the fact that hatton is a midget 140 lber with short arms. floyd bodied his ass. dont compare hatton and williams when analyzing a floyd and paul fight. you gotta throw that hatton fight out the window when discussing a floyd paul fight. name me one true WW floyd KOed? name one. What are you talking about? You make it sound like Floyd has had 30 fights at that weight. Name one that Williams KO that was any good? Who, Mitchell & Mathysee? Mitchell is not a WW and Mathysee just got decapitated by Cintron. I bet anything that Floyd would stop him. Williams aint stopping no one that Floyd fought at WW. He wont stop Oscar or Baldy and you know it. I also bet that he doesnt stop Hatton

Sorry my man, but Williams average opponent has 14 wins 9 losses. That is being in soft. ok fine. But is PW soft? yes or no. dont give me reasons. is he soft? cuz if you say yes, you are a fucking idiot. sorry to be so blunt. call him w/e but dont call him soft. Soft competition fine w/e. You can break down everybodies record and knock the fighter down a few notches. fact is, he beat everyone he has faced thus far and he is not soft.

I think Floyd might can stop him. People get to caught up in power stuff when alot of times its really about styles. Margarito is obviously a bigger puncher then Floyd but he also basically didnt land anything until almost the mid point of the fight. Also, Floyd tires you out with his Defense. Williams is known for throwing a million punches so that would leave you to think think that he wouldnt tire against Floyd but still people always tire against Floyd. Even Hatton did when everyone said he wouldnt. Williams also was dead tired at the end of the Margarito fight. Floyd also is much more accurate then anyone he's ever fought and will hit him in different ways then anyone ever hit him. Obviously he's not nearly the hardest puncher he has fought but that doesnt mean he wont stop him. Its just like Floyd knocking out Hatton but would anyone be shocked if Cotto went the distance with Hatton? or like Paulie going the distance with Cotto but would you be shocked if Floyd stopped Paulie? Sometimes its more about styles then outright power yuh its about styles and the fact that hatton is a midget 140 lber with short arms. floyd bodied his ass. dont compare hatton and williams when analyzing a floyd and paul fight. you gotta throw that hatton fight out the window when discussing a floyd paul fight. name me one true WW floyd KOed? name one.

:duh: of course, lol. I know that. I was just saying what might happen if they fought. floyd and bob arum avoid williams like the black plague. they can only fight if williams becomes a big name, stays undefeated, and beats cotto if floiyd hasnt foguht cotto at thats point. thats alot of ifs. I'm a huge williams fan. I seen 10 punisher fights. I am also realistic. the fight I really want for paul and one I would be satisfied with is a fight with cotto. thats the biggest most realistic fight that paul can make. I think Cotto would beat Williams because his style is to get in close and go to the body and Williams doesnt seem to throw shots with much power.

Paul Williams will have his toughest fight to date this Saturday, lets see if he can escape with a W from that fight before even talking about possible matchups with Mayweather or Cotto.

god damn you are the biggest nit picker. judah aint KOing anybody. Maybe Ruben Galvan and he couldnt even do that. Margarito only kinda dominated williams in rounds 10 and 11. thats it. people overrate marg's performance that night. paul took him out of his game. Dude, your way too high on Williams. Im a big Williams fan and I hate Margarito but you have to be real about it. Williams dominated early but Margarito basically owned him and had him running in the 2nd half of the fight until round 12. If he didnt dominate round 12 then I bet alot of people wouldve had it a draw or possibly even Margarito winning. I dont remember how I had it but I do know that Margarito did have Williams running alot more in the 2nd half of that fight. Also, Zab has power and I still dont think Williams chin is that great. People act like just because he took shots from Margarito and didnt fall means that he has the best chin in the world. Zab will catch him better then anyone ever has. Spinks went the distance with Taylor and alot of people thought he won. He also went the distance with Mayorga and beat him but Zab knocked him out. Dont look at things in just black & white all the time. Zab could give him problems that others might cant

** Not really. Floydy already turned down 8 mil against Margarito because of the risk. I doubt he'd even take 15 mil against Williams, but the fight ain't worth a third of that so they'll never fight. Too much risk for Floydy, a guaranteed beatdown. :duh: of course, lol. I know that. I was just saying what might happen if they fought. floyd and bob arum avoid williams like the black plague. they can only fight if williams becomes a big name, stays undefeated, and beats cotto if floiyd hasnt foguht cotto at thats point. thats alot of ifs. I'm a huge williams fan. I seen 10 punisher fights. I am also realistic. the fight I really want for paul and one I would be satisfied with is a fight with cotto. thats the biggest most realistic fight that paul can make.

This fight might happen in a couple of years, unless we are still watching FMJ/DLH IV or Floyd has retired for real, and by then, if Williams is still at WW and is still improving, I like his chances.

are you actually tryin to say paul is soft? ok homie, I hope you still have that opinion when he fights cotto or whoever. Sorry my man, but Williams average opponent has 14 wins 9 losses. That is being in soft.

good point, but wtf? i mean, is that all floyd gonna do? he can jab william's stomach 100 times, but if he aint doing nothing else then paul gets the W. mayweather aint KOing williams either. the fight looks like a good clash of styles match up, but I can see floyd trying this damndest to make it a really boring fight in hopes of pulling out a decision. I think Floyd might can stop him. People get to caught up in power stuff when alot of times its really about styles. Margarito is obviously a bigger puncher then Floyd but he also basically didnt land anything until almost the mid point of the fight. Also, Floyd tires you out with his Defense. Williams is known for throwing a million punches so that would leave you to think think that he wouldnt tire against Floyd but still people always tire against Floyd. Even Hatton did when everyone said he wouldnt. Williams also was dead tired at the end of the Margarito fight. Floyd also is much more accurate then anyone he's ever fought and will hit him in different ways then anyone ever hit him. Obviously he's not nearly the hardest puncher he has fought but that doesnt mean he wont stop him. Its just like Floyd knocking out Hatton but would anyone be shocked if Cotto went the distance with Hatton? or like Paulie going the distance with Cotto but would you be shocked if Floyd stopped Paulie? Sometimes its more about styles then outright power

To me inexperience and being in soft is a factor no matter how long your arms are. are you actually tryin to say paul is soft? ok homie, I hope you still have that opinion when he fights cotto or whoever.

I can see floyd trying this damndest to make it a really boring fight in hopes of pulling out a decision. ** Not really. Floydy already turned down 8 mil against Margarito because of the risk. I doubt he'd even take 15 mil against Williams, but the fight ain't worth a third of that so they'll never fight. Too much risk for Floydy, a guaranteed beatdown.

Williams would be Floyd's toughest test because of his size, reach, punch rate. Then you combine that with the fact that he is a Southpaw which has always given Floyd "some" problems then that obviously spells trouble. Still, for me its still a size issue, meaning that if Floyd was a natural WW then I dont think Williams would give him many problems. I would actually like to see Williams fight Zab. I think Quintana could do some things but probally not much. Zab however is great against southpaws because he is a Southpaws. Southpaws do great against orthodox fighters because there not use to seeing leftys but like an orthodox fighter, southpaws also struggle against southpaws because they arent use to seeing them either. Spinks is a great slick southpaw but none of his stuff worked against Zab like it did against other fighters. I wouldnt be shocked at all to see Williams beat Margarito, Cotto, & Cintron but get KO by Zab. Thats how things work. If Floyd fought Williams I think he would fight him the way he did Zab. He tried his normal style early against Zab but it didnt work. Then after the first few rounds he switched to the Winky style with the high guard and walked him down. I think he would fight Williams that same exact way. Use the Winky style and come in behind the gloves. Let Williams fire and then counter back. Remember that Williams is good but people do overrate him. Mathysee did give him some trouble before getting KO. He landed on Williams a ton. Williams dominated Margarito early but almost got dominated equally as much in the 2nd half of the fight. If Margarito & Mathysee can land clean on him then so can Floyd. Even Mitchell landed some good shots on him before the end god damn you are the biggest nit picker. judah aint KOing anybody. Maybe Ruben Galvan and he couldnt even do that. Margarito only kinda dominated williams in rounds 10 and 11. thats it. people overrate marg's performance that night. paul took him out of his game.

I agree this would be a good fight and might give floyd problems, but I think floyd would jab him to the stomach all night. good point, but wtf? i mean, is that all floyd gonna do? he can jab william's stomach 100 times, but if he aint doing nothing else then paul gets the W. mayweather aint KOing williams either. the fight looks like a good clash of styles match up, but I can see floyd trying this damndest to make it a really boring fight in hopes of pulling out a decision.

thomas hearns would knock mayweather out at welterweight, but they never fought, dumbass Why you got old ass fighters as your screen name? I thought you were a Hatton fan. Anyways, Hearns wouldnt knock him out. He may beat him but its only because he's naturally much bigger. Floyd however was better at 130 then Hearns was at WW and he also moved up way better then Hearns so I would say that Floyd is the better fighter

how did the hitman do? thomas hearns would knock mayweather out at welterweight, but they never fought, dumbass

Williams would be Floyd's toughest test because of his size, reach, punch rate. Then you combine that with the fact that he is a Southpaw which has always given Floyd "some" problems then that obviously spells trouble. Still, for me its still a size issue, meaning that if Floyd was a natural WW then I dont think Williams would give him many problems. I would actually like to see Williams fight Zab. I think Quintana could do some things but probally not much. Zab however is great against southpaws because he is a Southpaws. Southpaws do great against orthodox fighters because there not use to seeing leftys but like an orthodox fighter, southpaws also struggle against southpaws because they arent use to seeing them either. Spinks is a great slick southpaw but none of his stuff worked against Zab like it did against other fighters. I wouldnt be shocked at all to see Williams beat Margarito, Cotto, & Cintron but get KO by Zab. Thats how things work. If Floyd fought Williams I think he would fight him the way he did Zab. He tried his normal style early against Zab but it didnt work. Then after the first few rounds he switched to the Winky style with the high guard and walked him down. I think he would fight Williams that same exact way. Use the Winky style and come in behind the gloves. Let Williams fire and then counter back. Remember that Williams is good but people do overrate him. Mathysee did give him some trouble before getting KO. He landed on Williams a ton. Williams dominated Margarito early but almost got dominated equally as much in the 2nd half of the fight. If Margarito & Mathysee can land clean on him then so can Floyd. Even Mitchell landed some good shots on him before the end