Now were all aware that Trinidad is a legend of the sport but he's lost three of his last five fights. do you think this damages his legacy in the sport or do you think its excuseable given the fact that hes been fighting way over his natural weight against world class operators. I think it shows a lot of heart and courage. what do you think?
Mayorga had a concrete chin, so can't blame him for that. And for the armtrong comment, Tito wasn't allowed to hold titles from diffirent devisions at the same time.
He has 3 losses to all time greats way above his best weightclass(es) and some past his prime. The rest of his career is great and shall be remembered for that.
He still didn't have the welterweight record for most defenses.
And welterweights with iron chins really don't have iron chins at middleweight.
You know how Hagler took all Hearns could handle at 160? I'll bet you money he could not have taken all Larry Holmes could dish out.
Chins diminish when you move up in weight. I think it is a clear case of Tito's power wearing off as he moved up in weight.
trinidad didnt do shit but land hip shots. after he lost to hopkins theres nothing of significance he did. the mayorga fight was entertaining but mayorga was basically a bum. trinidad just became a fighter who wanted the money.
More importantly... Mayorga was a fucking welterweight at the time. He jumped up to middleweight, and it still took Tito's "power" 8 rounds to get him out of there. Embarrassing if you ask me.
He also beat that bum Hacine Cherifi, but like you said, nothing of note.
trinidad didnt do shit but land hip shots. after he lost to hopkins theres nothing of significance he did. the mayorga fight was entertaining but mayorga was basically a bum. trinidad just became a fighter who wanted the money.
It adds to his legacy..Tito never ducked anyone and always wanted and seems like he still does want to fight the best guys out there. At 147-154 he was the man..most title defenses as a welter..he hold the record.
Wrong.
Henry Armstrong had 19 defenses at welterweight... when there was only one welterweight title. He also won the welterweight title while holding the featherweight and lightweight titles, so he was a three division champion, all at the same time... but in today's terms, his championships in those three divisions spans between 5 of today's current divisions.
It adds to his legacy..Tito never ducked anyone and always wanted and seems like he still does want to fight the best guys out there. At 147-154 he was the man..most title defenses as a welter..he hold the record.
Not at all. IMO, Trinidad was a natural welter weight that moved up weight divisions taking on the bigger fighters and beat all of those fighters with the exception of the elite; Winky, Bernard and Jones.
I think you have to give him credit for taking on those challenges and moving up in weight with no "tune up" fights. And it sures makes his arch rival look like a joke when he does the opposite, by going down in weight, fighting smaller fighters and loses.
Have you ever heard of a fighter moving down in weight to take on smaller fighters and still needing a tune up fight...
lol you're obsessed with de la hoya....he raped the guys in your av, get over it... :lol1:
Now were all aware that Trinidad is a legend of the sport but he's lost three of his last five fights. do you think this damages his legacy in the sport or do you think its excuseable given the fact that hes been fighting way over his natural weight against world class operators. I think it shows a lot of heart and courage. what do you think?
When you can make 14mil, legacy goes out the window.
Now were all aware that Trinidad is a legend of the sport but he's lost three of his last five fights. do you think this damages his legacy in the sport or do you think its excuseable given the fact that hes been fighting way over his natural weight against world class operators. I think it shows a lot of heart and courage. what do you think?
Not at all. IMO, Trinidad was a natural welter weight that moved up weight divisions taking on the bigger fighters and beat all of those fighters with the exception of the elite; Winky, Bernard and Jones.
I think you have to give him credit for taking on those challenges and moving up in weight with no "tune up" fights. And it sures makes his arch rival look like a joke when he does the opposite, by going down in weight, fighting smaller fighters and loses.
Have you ever heard of a fighter moving down in weight to take on smaller fighters and still needing a tune up fight...
I dont know why Trinidad or his handlers thought he could win this fight. His power did not transfer to the 160lb division, how one earth was he going to hurt Jones at 175lbs who himself fought as high as heavyweight.
I think it will hurt Trinidad in terms of his credability. He took the fight for the payday.
Having said that, he did perform pretty well for being natually smaller by 3 weight divisions.
Now were all aware that Trinidad is a legend of the sport but he's lost three of his last five fights. do you think this damages his legacy in the sport or do you think its excuseable given the fact that hes been fighting way over his natural weight against world class operators. I think it shows a lot of heart and courage. what do you think?
Fo mainstrem fans he may have damaged his legacy because he got beaten by some fighters, but not for real boxing fans. Its no shame to lose against Jones or Winky.
he only loses are to hopkins, winky and jones. who he fought at middleweight and 170 pounds which were clearly not his best weights plus they are all future hall of famers so no his legacy is not damaged
Always amazing how the angry whiteboys always look for any chance to try to discredit Roy Jones.
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to answer the thread title no, not at all.
No, I think he was overrated before the fight and I think he's overrated again
Well, his legacy was not damaged. Is not like his loses came to bums. Hopkins, Wright and Roy Jones Jr are probable HOF too.
And Tito is not overrated.
Tito's career at welterweight > Hopkins career at middleweight (my opinion, I guess it's debatable)
Tito's career at welterweight > Winky's career at 154
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