McGirt: "Oscar Is #3 P4P Because He's The Only One Who Really Tested Floyd"

Buddy needs to stick to training! Well actually, judging by all the losses he had the last couple years maybe he is not so good at that anymore either!

Oscar #3 p4p ??? LMAOOOOOOOOOOO get the fuck out of here with that shit

The fight could have gone either way maybe thats why so much hate on Delahoya. Yeah, I've been trying to wrap my head around it. I know most people are stupid, but they must be blind too if they think Cotto, Mayweather or any of those guys has an easy time with Oscar.

The fight could have gone either way maybe thats why so much hate on Delahoya.

I wonder who McGirt thinks would win if Lowblotto and Gay La Hoya fought.

Floyd was Oscar's last fight, and who wouldve beat Oscar that night besides Floyd? Yall throw in names like Castillo and that and say oh well then why arent they there if Oscar is, but im sure their stock rose after they fought Floyd as well, even if they didnt win. My point is, if Oscar wouldve beat Floyd im sure people wouldve had him at #1 or #2, so since he lost by a split decision, meaning he won in one judges eyes whats wrong with him being #3??? I dont think yall realize how close the fight really was.

Buddy McGirt, The Ring Magazine, April 2008 I found it interesting that the majority of all other experts involved with this ranking had Calzaghe at #2 and McGirt has him well below that at #6 with Hopkins in the 2 slot. Buddy has also made no secret of his disregard for Ricky Hatton. He thinks Hatton is complete garbage basically.

it's official, Buddy has brain damage

I don't think Buddy's logic for Oscar being p4p #3 makes sense, but I still think he's a good trainer. I know he's not had the best of success as of late, but in most of those fights that were lost his fighters were the underdog and going up against good opponents. I mean did it really matter who was in Brewster's corner against Wlad, plus Dawson was just better than Ademek, and Hopkins is in the p4p list, so his beatin Tarver was no suprise. He was actually in David Banks corner for the Miranda fight and when you think about did that really matter. I don't know if it's very good to determine a trainer's success by win's and losses. Sometimes they may have a fighter that's just not as good, plus it seems a trainers worth comes during the training process. Because on fight night the best advise possible could be given, but it comes down to the fighter executing plus other variable that can't be taught.

DLH doesnt even belong on that list... Calzone should be #2 and Calderon should be somewhere on that list. DLH has not accomplished shit in over 4 years. I did not even notice that he was missing. I think any p4p list without Calderon is a joke.

DLH doesnt even belong on that list... Calzone should be #2 and Calderon should be somewhere on that list. DLH has not accomplished shit in over 4 years.

Buddy McGirt was a very good fighter and he has been pretty decent as a trainer. He knows how to train certain kinds of fighters. His list is pretty weird though. Translation: Buddy is a great guy but what the fuck is he thinking here!?

Buddy McGirt was a very good fighter and he has been pretty decent as a trainer. He knows how to train certain kinds of fighters. His list is pretty weird though.

If Oscar Is Pound 4 Pound # 3 Then Mah Nutz Are White Yo!!!!!!!

Awww you bitch, great sig man and three skilled fighters indeed. Isn't that slightly how JMM got his rating? But he got a draw, not a loss, and didn't fade in the end of the fight... he really showed what he was made of for the 11 rounds after the brutal 1st. He also beat Barrera, which bumped him up pretty high. Thanks about the sig, I love it!

I forgot the original topic. Oscar #3 p4p... LOL I KINDA understand the point of view which might guarantee him a LOW spot in the list, because he only lost to Mosley, Hopkins and Mayweather in years (and he always looked good in those fights), but NUMBER THREE?!?!? come on... And a slack ass performance against Felix Sturm... His only P4P performance in recent memory was against Ricardo Mayorga.

Stupid comment. McGirt is one of the best, considering the results he gets with the B-level fighters that Steward doesn't want. Anyways, the criteria for ranking Oscar at #3 is so dumb... so fucking dumb. Apparantly the previous losses, and inactivity don't matter because he looked good in a loss? That is unforgivable. Awww you bitch, great sig man and three skilled fighters indeed. Isn't that slightly how JMM got his rating?

I forgot the original topic. Oscar #3 p4p... LOL I KINDA understand the point of view which might guarantee him a LOW spot in the list, because he only lost to Mosley, Hopkins and Mayweather in years (and he always looked good in those fights), but NUMBER THREE?!?!? come on...

So you think that McGirt turning Gatti's career around so that he won a title at 140 is a joke? How about training Tarver to win his rematch against Harding, which got him his first shot at Jones? McGirt then gave Tarver a really good strat for the first fight, and then his career took off, mostly because of Buddy. Buddy has done a great job with Paulie... a featherfist who is able to fight near-perfect fights with good instruction from his corner. Last but not least, how about the great recent success of Vernon Forrest? It has been Buddy McGirt that has been instrumental to that. All I said about Steward is that he trains the name fighters in the sport, and McGirt gets the best of the rest, and he does more with them than it seems possible. He makes ordinary fighters look a hell of a lot better than just ordinary. fuckin' aye... McGirt is no slouch and he is 20 years younger than Steward. He had a pro career, and his fighters usually come out with more different strategies than Manny's. Manny's best fighters ALWAYS have a reach advantage on most opponents, and that is possibly explained by his work being somehow connected to the am's more than other trainers (see his career and the kronk history). It shows in the style he favors, both as a trainer and as a commentator. Manny can by now rely on he kronk effect, to get very good fighters working with him. McGirt looked dumb in a couple occasions, but so did Steward, in not being able to communicate at all with Taylor, for example. Unfortunately for both, it takes the fighter's work to look good for a trainer. Saying Steward and McGirt should not be mentioned in the same sentence is just ignorant.

You have to be kidding me...he is very overrated and his record as a trainer is mediocre. Please don't compare Steward to McGirt...Steward>>>>McGirt. So you think that McGirt turning Gatti's career around so that he won a title at 140 is a joke? How about training Tarver to win his rematch against Harding, which got him his first shot at Jones? McGirt then gave Tarver a really good strat for the first fight, and then his career took off, mostly because of Buddy. Buddy has done a great job with Paulie... a featherfist who is able to fight near-perfect fights with good instruction from his corner. Last but not least, how about the great recent success of Vernon Forrest? It has been Buddy McGirt that has been instrumental to that. All I said about Steward is that he trains the name fighters in the sport, and McGirt gets the best of the rest, and he does more with them than it seems possible. He makes ordinary fighters look a hell of a lot better than just ordinary.